The Party of the Poorly Educated in the Trump Era

[Homerboy]

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And it is very much true. What we have here is motivated reasoning. In order for him to validate his own worth and his superiority he is trying to equate intelligence with income. And while there may be a correlation between the two, there is also a correlation between education level and intelligence, something he refuses to acknowledge.

LOL I never saw that argument from him. That is some funny crap.

 

[Commodus]

Education doesn't necessarily reflect higher intelligence, but it can contribute to higher intelligence. That's the point here -- that modern Democrat voters are more likely to be well-informed.

Also... why would anyone correlate financial success with intelligence knowing who's President? Trump is so idiotic that he stares at an eclipse when explicitly told not to, and is embarrassed enough about his grades that he threatens any school that might release them.

 

[Moonbeam]

This inability to distinguish between data based on educational level, a measurable and documented statistic and ones personal estimation of the intelligence of people who may be in any of the statistically defined divisions is something I generally see in people like myself who grew up worshiping intelligence and having experienced for one reason or another being constantly reminded one personally doesn't really have that much of it. In this way it becomes all too easy for the person so infected with such inferiority feelings to become defensive and protective of his or her own ego including the instantiation of the kind of rationalization inwardly that separates academic achievement from any estimation of other's intelligence. In this way, those who feel intellectually threatened by negative put downs of one's intelligence, for real or imagined reasons, will have that feeling of inferiority less easily able to be triggered by denial of the notion that intelligence has anything to do with educational attainment.

Perhaps those who suffer from such feelings of inferiority with or without real world justification can strive for attainment in some other field that maybe doesn't have anything to do with educational level or intelligence, like being honest with oneself. Heaven only knows what the rewards from that might be.

Apes ain't too smart but by golly they sure seem to be happy being who they are. I haven't mentioned Moonbeam's motto in a Month of Sundays:

Have a banana.

 

[1prophet]

Highly educated liberals like this guy here promoting their hatred of rural Americans, are worth more to Trump than a thousand poorly educated Proud Boys.

"https://www.rt.com/usa/472995-rural-americans-shamed-berkeley/
Berkeley philosophy lecturer slammed after saying rural Americans made ‘bad life decisions’ & should be SHAMED"



Bad life decisions, wonder where he learned that, doesn't sound to liberal now does it?

 

[Meghan54]

Highly educated liberals like this guy here promoting their hatred of rural Americans, are worth more to Trump than a thousand poorly educated Proud Boys.

"https://www.rt.com/usa/472995-rural-americans-shamed-berkeley/
Berkeley philosophy lecturer slammed after saying rural Americans made ‘bad life decisions’ & should be SHAMED"



Bad life decisions, wonder where he learned that, doesn't sound to liberal now does it?

Russia Today as your source? Reaching much?

 

[Starbuck1975]

The Economist, that far left purveyor of fake news -- for our poorly educated here, that's sarcasm -- shows, with facts -- not alternative facts -- how the Republican party has successfully recruited the, ummmm, deplorably educated to their know nothing banner:

"It was in the 1970s that American politics began to polarise around voters’ levels of educational attainment. The Republican Party, until then a party of tweedy north-easterners, began recruiting less-educated southern whites, alienated by the civil-rights movement. Over time, the partisan gap between college-educated voters and less-educated ones widened. In 2016 it exploded. The Pew Research Centre, a think-tank, found that overall, college graduates favoured Hillary Clinton by 21 percentage points, while those without a degree backed Donald Trump by a seven-point margin. Among whites, the difference is greater: those without a college degree backed Mr Trump over Mrs Clinton by a margin of more than two to one."

#deploarble

The Republicans consolidated the political power of a voting demographic alienated by globalization and abandoned by the party that used to represent blue collar organized labor. Calling them deplorable isn’t going to decrease their likelihood of political engagement.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Russia Today as your source? Reaching much?

So you’re denying that this professor and people like him exist in academia?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Highly educated liberals like this guy here promoting their hatred of rural Americans, are worth more to Trump than a thousand poorly educated Proud Boys.

"https://www.rt.com/usa/472995-rural-americans-shamed-berkeley/
Berkeley philosophy lecturer slammed after saying rural Americans made ‘bad life decisions’ & should be SHAMED"



Bad life decisions, wonder where he learned that, doesn't sound to liberal now does it?

Wonder what his P&N username is.

 

[Meghan54]

So you’re denying that this professor and people like him exist in academia?

People like whom?

 

[Starbuck1975]

People like whom?

Guess you didn’t read the post you responded to

 

[ivwshane]

So you’re denying that this professor and people like him exist in academia?

I think what he is highlighting is that RT is Russian propaganda.

I'm not sure what the point of the post was, as if highlighting one particular case means anything.

 

[woolfe9998]

Yeah OK, education and intelligence are not the same thing, and the article refers to education rather than intelligence. But individual cases aside, education and intelligence do correlate statistically across a large sample. A lot.

Intelligence and education: causal perceptions drive analytic processes and therefore conclusions

Abstract. Background Educational attainment is associated with many life outcomes, including income, occupation and many health and lifestyle variables. Many re

academic.oup.com

Intelligence and educational achievement

This 5-year prospective longitudinal study of 70,000+ English children examined the association between psychometric intelligence at age 11 years and …

www.sciencedirect.com

It's unclear whether education boosts one's IQ, or if high IQ individuals seek out more education, or some of both. But that is irrelevant for purposes of this discussion.

 

[Meghan54]

Guess you didn’t read the post you responded to

Read it fine.....just wanted to know who "those people" were in your mind.......guess the answer is zip.

 

[woolfe9998]

So you’re denying that this professor and people like him exist in academia?

We're not denying that any kind of person exists because every kind does. What we're denying is that this kind of anecdote about a single person has any sort of relevance to this discussion or any other.

 

[Jhhnn]

The Republicans consolidated the political power of a voting demographic alienated by globalization and abandoned by the party that used to represent blue collar organized labor. Calling them deplorable isn’t going to decrease their likelihood of political engagement.

Gawd. Is there some part of "they abandoned the labor movement when they fell for Reagan" that you don't understand?

 

[Starbuck1975]

I think what he is highlighting is that RT is Russian propaganda.

It could very well be, but doesn’t change that this guy and many like him exist

I'm not sure what the point of the post was, as if highlighting one particular case means anything.

He is hardly an outlier. Within the context of this topic, I fail to see how the “deplorables” narrative is going to prevent a second Trump win given how amazingly well that strategy worked last time.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Read it fine.....just wanted to know who "those people" were in your mind.......guess the answer is zip.

If you had, there would have been no need for your question. You can put the goal posts down over there.

 

[woolfe9998]

It could very well be, but doesn’t change that this guy and many like him exist

He is hardly an outlier. Within the context of this topic, I fail to see how the “deplorables” narrative is going to prevent a second Trump win given how amazingly well that strategy worked last time.

You say he is not an outlier and that "many like him exist." Those are just bald assertions without anything to back them up. If you want to establish that as fact, you're going to have to try harder.

 

[zinfamous]

Yes, but why let facts get in the way of your feelings:



When in doubt, just change quotations to suite your narrative... even if that defeats the entire purpose of using quotation marks....

Did H. L. Mencken Say the 'White House Will Be Adorned by a Downright Moron'?

The legendary newspaperman addressed the difficulties of good men reaching national office when such campaigns were necessarily conducted remotely.

www.snopes.com

...uh, the exact quote doesn't really change the argument.

 

[zinfamous]

Highly educated liberals like this guy here promoting their hatred of rural Americans, are worth more to Trump than a thousand poorly educated Proud Boys.

"https://www.rt.com/usa/472995-rural-americans-shamed-berkeley/
Berkeley philosophy lecturer slammed after saying rural Americans made ‘bad life decisions’ & should be SHAMED"



Bad life decisions, wonder where he learned that, doesn't sound to liberal now does it?

Good 'ol RT to the rescue.

The propaganda machine seems to be self-oiled.

 

[zinfamous]

We're not denying that any kind of person exists because every kind does. What we're denying is that this kind of anecdote about a single person has any sort of relevance to this discussion or any other.

But this person is "All Liberals!" RT told me so--and RT has absolutely no motivation to sew chaos among the US electorate, promote class warfare, and ensure that the president they absolutely helped to elect by using the aforementioned strategies, as a proven matter of fact, gets re-elected.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

But this person is "All Liberals!" RT told me so--and RT has absolutely no motivation to sew chaos among the US electorate, promote class warfare, and ensure that the president they absolutely helped to elect by using the aforementioned strategies, as a proven matter of fact, gets re-elected.

liberal cuck....

#sarcasm

 

[ElFenix]

You say he is not an outlier and that "many like him exist." Those are just bald assertions without anything to back them up. If you want to establish that as fact, you're going to have to try harder.

there's economic calvinists who will gladly regurgitate that poor people are poor because they made bad choices and should suffer for it. rural people tend to be hideously poor. wouldn't be shocked if the prof was ridiculing a typical righty meme.

 

[woolfe9998]

there's economic calvinists who will gladly regurgitate that poor people are poor because they made bad choices and should suffer for it. rural people tend to be hideously poor. wouldn't be shocked if the prof was ridiculing a typical righty meme.

Upon reading these "controversial" tweets, I agree that he was "ridiculing a righty meme." Read:

I unironically embrace the bashing of rural Americans. they, as a group, are bad people who have made bad life decisions,” Kernion wrote. “Some, I assume, are good people. But this nostalgia for some imagined pastoral way of life is stupid, and we should shame people who aren’t pro-city.”

Note: in the Fox News version of this article, they literally cut out the bolded words and replaced them with ellipses. In an obvious attempt to hide the fact that this professor is mocking what Trump has said about immigrants.

UC Berkeley instructor calls rural Americans 'bad people' who deserve 'uncomfortable' lives

A UC Berkeley graduate student and instructor took to Twitter to shame "rural Americans" and those who aren't "pro-city."

www.foxnews.com

It's a fraud. But what else would you expect from Putin and Fox News?

 

[sao123]

none of this has anything to do with the data presented.

Also, please provide an example of an accredited 4 year Bachelor's institution that offers a degree in "basketweaving"....especially as that is the type of thing that would actually be more appropriate for a 2 year trade school, don't you think? .....or does "trade" also only mean one or two things to you?

I know "basketweaving" is the cliched example provided by every cynical highschool counselor everywhere, but it's a silly example because it doesn't mean anything.

Every accredited institution has worthless BA (bachelor of arts) degrees...
Like: Philosophy, Art & Music History, Socialism, Theatre, Communications, Psychology, Fashion Design, Fine Arts, and Liberal Arts.

All of these are "basketweaving" degrees from real state run and private universities. Not only are all are useless for gaining real employment other than "Paper or plastic?" and "Would you like fries with that?" jobs, they also leave students less equipped for life outside of academia, than the techie school all the dumb kids in high school took.


BA degrees leave them brainwashed and responsible for today's millennial "me" society, the padded room "safe space" society, and the everyone who is not a "Ikea shopping, scarf wearing, city dwellar" is nothing but a "toothless mountain hick redneck deplorable" society.