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Wreckem

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Of course its not pointless. No one other than an exceptionally naive person would think that the power of the entire US economy would be pointless.

If your argument is that US health care costs are on an unsustainable trajectory of course that's true, but that has little to do with government spending on it.

Govt spending on it doesn't change unless they actually do something. The longer they wait, the harder to change the cost curves.

I wasnt saying the US economy was pointless. I was saying the US can be the largest economy in 30 years but still wouldnt be able to pay for medicare. But like the D's and R's, you are ignoring the biggest problem facing the US budget and economy. Medicare is non discretionary spending. Its required by law. Changing that will never happen.

Im not the only one calling it the biggest problem. Many people are but no one wants to address it(mainly because they will be voted out of office).
 

fskimospy

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Govt spending on it doesn't change unless they actually do something. The longer they wait, the harder to change the cost curves.

I wasnt saying the US economy was pointless. I was saying the US can be the largest economy in 30 years but still wouldnt be able to pay for medicare. But like the D's and R's, you are ignoring the biggest problem facing the US budget and economy. Medicare is non discretionary spending. Its required by law. Changing that will never happen.

Im not the only one calling it the biggest problem. Many people are but no one wants to address it(mainly because they will be voted out of office).

Medicare is health spending. Health spending that would take place whether it was public or private. Obamacare was actually an explicit attempt to attack health care inflation.
 

Midwayman

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Maybe 10?

Writing job-seeking grade answers to those questions is NOT free. It is time consuming. You have to ask yourself, "Do I want to gamble away my free time to humor some HR person when I have a very small chance of a return-on-investment?"

From the perspective of an applicant, who says that the job even exists and that it isn't just some heartless guy with a big ego snickering with enjoyment at the thought of desperate people spending two or three hours to complete his questionnaire?

Its sort of hilarious the hoops they expect you to jump through before an interview, yet can't even give you an email to let you know that the position was filled.
 

ElFenix

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Sure, unless your plan is to let old people die.

everyone has their time. is it really worth spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to extend someone's life (and often a painful part of life at that) a few additional months? that discussion needs to happen.
 

Svnla

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everyone has their time. is it really worth spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to extend someone's life (and often a painful part of life at that) a few additional months? that discussion needs to happen.

This link is from 2010 but I am sure the cost is going up and not down. We can't afford to continue to spend money this way and this much (and climbing fast) forever.

Last year, Medicare paid $50 billion just for doctor and hospital bills during the last two months of patients' lives - that's more than the budget of the Department of Homeland Security or the Department of Education.

And it has been estimated that 20 to 30 percent of these medical expenditures may have had no meaningful impact. Most of the bills are paid for by the federal government with few or no questions asked.

One of her doctors, Ira Byock, told 60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft it costs up to $10,000 a day to maintain someone in the intensive care unit. Some patients remain here for weeks or even months; one has been in the ICU since May.

"This is the way so many Americans die. Something like 18 to 20 percent of Americans spend their last days in an ICU," Byock told Kroft. "And, you know, it's extremely expensive. It's uncomfortable. Many times they have to be sedated so that they don't reflexively pull out a tube, or sometimes their hands are restrained. This is not the way most people would want to spend their last days of life. And yet this has become almost the medical last rites for people as they die."

Dr. Byock leads a team that treats and counsels patients with advanced illnesses.

He says modern medicine has become so good at keeping the terminally ill alive by treating the complications of underlying disease that the inevitable process of dying has become much harder and is often prolonged unnecessarily.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-5711689.html
 
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