The Official Xbox One Thread

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American Gunner

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FFXI, FFXIII, FFXIII-2, FFXIII-Lightning Returns, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, The Witcher 2, MagnaCarta 2, Fable II and III, Blue Dragon, Resonance of Fate, Culdcept Saga, Diablo III, Oblivion, Skyrim, Mass Effect 1-3, Dragon Age 1-2, etc. not enough for you? A lot of those are also exclusive. And that's before diving into the Arcade and stellar indie RPG's.

That was a pretty ignorant comment. They may not be the majority of titles or what the majority of people are playing, but they exist and are not hard to find at all.

Granted, there isn't much for the One right now as far as RPG's go, but the Witcher 3 will be available for it in the near future, as well as the next ME and DA entries. There will be plenty of options for RPG fans on the One.
You're not supposed to correct him in this area. He is constantly harping on it, even if you give him facts like you did.
 

purbeast0

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Awww... I just realized that The Stick of Truth isn't out for the One. :(

yeah i'm not an rpg fan by any means, but if that game came to x1/ps4 i'd get it. same with ultra street fighter iv. not going to be getting either though since they aren't coming out for current gen consoles (at least not yet).
 

sze5003

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Just started playing witcher 2. So many settings to mess with on pc. I'm pretty sure I was running it in ultra 1080p. Odd game for me. I can't really get used to the menu and all that you can do with your character.
 

smackababy

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yeah i'm not an rpg fan by any means, but if that game came to x1/ps4 i'd get it. same with ultra street fighter iv. not going to be getting either though since they aren't coming out for current gen consoles (at least not yet).

You can't skip Ultra SFIV. The king is back! In case you didn't see the reveal this weekend at SCR, Capcom announced every version of SF4 characters will be playable in USF4. So, we get a bunch of Vanilla Sagats and AE twins!
 

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I loved FO3. Problem with the game was that I got really hooked when I got into it. This made me scared to touch New Vegas and Skyrim. Skyrim world looked awesome though, kinda like Game of Thrones, so I made the mistake of trying that and got hooked all over again. The thief quest in Skyrim was my favorite. I never finished it though b/c D3 was coming out right when I started going through the main quest. I wanna go back to it, but it's tough to re-learn everything. I fire it up, and I'm like.. uhh... f it. Back to DOTA or something. Samething happened to me in FO3, stupid Xbox hdd died, but I finished the game, most side quests, and the first two dlc. Tried to start all over, and just couldn't.
 

purbeast0

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You can't skip Ultra SFIV. The king is back! In case you didn't see the reveal this weekend at SCR, Capcom announced every version of SF4 characters will be playable in USF4. So, we get a bunch of Vanilla Sagats and AE twins!

yeah i heard that. did they even announce the 5th character yet?

and i don't plan on getting it at all as of now. i'm pretty tired of sf4 and capcom in general. i'm tired of them. i haven't played sf4 in months and i don't want to have more consoles hooked up just to play 1 game. so pretty much the only way i'll play usf4 is if it does end up coming out for the current consoles.

can't believe it is taking capcom this long to add in 5 new characters (some of which we know the models and move set were already 100% finished and used in sfxt) and some stupid new mechanics like being able to select 2 ultras and the red focus, as well as the new "play from any version" stuff. i'm ready for sf5.
 

exdeath

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FFXI, FFXIII, FFXIII-2, FFXIII-Lightning Returns, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, The Witcher 2, MagnaCarta 2, Fable II and III, Blue Dragon, Resonance of Fate, Culdcept Saga, Diablo III, Oblivion, Skyrim, Mass Effect 1-3, Dragon Age 1-2, etc. not enough for you? A lot of those are also exclusive. And that's before diving into the Arcade and stellar indie RPG's.

That was a pretty ignorant comment. They may not be the majority of titles or what the majority of people are playing, but they exist and are not hard to find at all.

Granted, there isn't much for the One right now as far as RPG's go, but the Witcher 3 will be available for it in the near future, as well as the next ME and DA entries. There will be plenty of options for RPG fans on the One.

Over two thirds of those are cross platform, and many of them are western open world games or first person shooters/slashers more so than traditional heavy story RPG, aka JRPG. Nobody plays Oblivion for its story

I'm surprised you used "1-3" and didn't type each one individually to make it even bigger.
That you included Diablo 3 on an RPG list shows how much you attempted to pad the list.

Also note, even with your padding with open world first person western "RPGs" this tiny list represents the complete and final list for a console that has been out for EIGHT YEARS.

Do a list for PS3 and compare, and you'll understand my previous comment.

Take away the cross platform titles alone and your list contains a whopping 2-3 exclusive Xbox RPGs? We are talking buying a specific console for a specific type of game. I thought it was understood we don't factor multi platform titles when choosing a single console.

I say again. You bought a Xbox for RPGs? Lol.

I've moved on to PS3/PS4, and have come to terms with it personally. But its well known that if you are looking for RPGs, you do not buy an Xbox of any generation.

Should have at least mentioned Tales of Vesperia (US) and Infinite Undiscovery, as unfortunate as they are to be on a platform who's target audience doesn't appreciate them.
 
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smackababy

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yeah i heard that. did they even announce the 5th character yet?

and i don't plan on getting it at all as of now. i'm pretty tired of sf4 and capcom in general. i'm tired of them. i haven't played sf4 in months and i don't want to have more consoles hooked up just to play 1 game. so pretty much the only way i'll play usf4 is if it does end up coming out for the current consoles.

can't believe it is taking capcom this long to add in 5 new characters (some of which we know the models and move set were already 100% finished and used in sfxt) and some stupid new mechanics like being able to select 2 ultras and the red focus, as well as the new "play from any version" stuff. i'm ready for sf5.

5th character is supposed to be announced at Final Round. Strange not attending that. It used to be like 2 hours away from where I lived. =(

Yeah, they are taking a long time, but is that really surprising? I mean, how long was it between versions of 3? New Generation to 2nd Impact was like 8 months IIRC and 3rd Strike was another 2 years.
 

purbeast0

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5th character is supposed to be announced at Final Round. Strange not attending that. It used to be like 2 hours away from where I lived. =(

Yeah, they are taking a long time, but is that really surprising? I mean, how long was it between versions of 3? New Generation to 2nd Impact was like 8 months IIRC and 3rd Strike was another 2 years.

yeah. after seeing how great killer instinct is from the get to, and how many things they did right and how many things capcom continues to do wrong, i've just lost some interest in them. especially in sf4 because it's the same old thing. and after playing killer instinct online, it's tough to go back to non-rollback code that is as good as ki's.

that said, i'd be all over sf5 if they announced it lol.
 

sweenish

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Over two thirds of those are cross platform, and many of them are western open world games or first person shooters/slashers more so than traditional RPG, aka JRPG.

I'm surprised you used "1-3" and didn't type each one individually to make it even bigger.
That you included Diablo 3 on an RPG list shows how much you attempted to pad the list.

Also note, even with your padding with open world first person western "RPGs" this tiny list represents the complete and final list for a console that has been out for EIGHT YEARS.

Do a list for PS3 and compare, and you'll understand my previous comment.

Take away the cross platform titles alone and your list contains a whopping 4-5 exclusive Xbox RPGs?

I say again. You bought a Xbox for RPGs? Lol.

I've moved on to PS3/PS4, and have come to terms with it personally. But its well known that if you are looking for RPGs, you do not buy an Xbox of any generation.

Not everyone games cross-platform (I would guess the majority doesn't), available is available to them. Those games aren't suddenly unavailable just because they can be had on a different platform, are they? So that point is moot. Western vs. Japanese is moot, they're still RPG's. If you're wanting to discuss strictly JRPG exclusives, I will gladly concede my point.

But you're not. You're just talking RPGs, of which the Xbox does have plenty. My list is far from comprehensive. PA arcade games, Zeboyd indies, Infinite Undiscovery, etc. There are quite a few. Just because the JRPG filler didn't get ported doesn't mean it's lacking. I would even argue that the Xbox's quality / quantity ratio is better because of that.

One platform having more does not equate to the Xbox selection being paltry. Especially when it can be argued that the best JRPG of last-gen was Lost Odyssey, a 360 exclusive.

And all this before diving into your dismissal or western RPGs, which arguably do the whole role play aspect much better than a JRPG "interactive novel." (I actually don't feel that way, but put it in to show the dismissal easily goes both ways)

We are talking buying a specific console for a specific type of game. I thought it was understood we don't factor multi platform titles when choosing a single console.

This must have been added later. It's true that you consider the exclusives when considering the console purchase. I did not get the feeling that was what was being asked by the person you replied to. After choosing a console based on exclusives, it's still natural to want to see what the availability of other games will be. My argument is in that context. If they have already decided on an Xbox One for whatever reason, there will be RPG's available for it. Enough to satisfy.
 
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purbeast0

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Not everyone games cross-platform (I would guess the majority doesn't), available is available to them. Those games aren't suddenly unavailable just because they can be had on a different platform, are they? So that point is moot. Western vs. Japanese is moot, they're still RPG's. If you're wanting to discuss strictly JRPG exclusives, I will gladly concede my point.

But you're not. You're just talking RPGs, of which the Xbox does have plenty.

One platform having more does not equate to the Xbox selection being paltry. Especially when it can be argued that the best JRPG of last-gen was Lost Odyssey, a 360 exclusive.

it isn't worth wasting your time typing to try and tell him their are tons of games out for the consoles. outside of his super niche category of games all he sees is dude-bro shooters, sports, and need for speed games. they are there, but he conveniently acts as though they don't exist.
 

sweenish

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it isn't worth wasting your time typing to try and tell him their are tons of games out for the consoles. outside of his super niche category of games all he sees is dude-bro shooters, sports, and need for speed games. they are there, but he conveniently acts as though they don't exist.

I've said my piece now.
 
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Fulle

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Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia were early Xbox Exclusives, when MS used to try in Japan. But they stopped, and it's been years since they've invested in trying to get exclusivity on a JRPG. Tales of Vesperia came out in 2008, but ended up getting ported to PS3 about a year later, to save sales. Since then, "Tales of" games have preferred Japenese systems again. Tales of Xillia isn't on an Xbox.

The PS3 has a lot more JRPGs than the Xbox 360 does, and has more on the way. Even Square-Enix published games like Drakengard 3 often skip the Xbox. FF14 ARR, another Square-Enix published game (this one a Thempark MMORPG) is PC and Playstation exclusive.

Early in the lifecycle of the Xbox One and PS4 here, but early signs seem to point to a shunning by Japanese publishers. Deep Down (capcom) is PS4 exclusive, FF14 ARR (Square-Enix) Playstation and PC, Natural Doctrine (a super rare japanese SRPG from a small publisher) PS4 exclusive. You get the idea.

Planetside 2 and Everquest Next, are also pretty darn notable. If we're including online RPGs, I have to remind people that SOE doesn't port stuff to Xbox. And if you don't think EQN is going to matter, the Landmark livestreems that are up right now actually seem pretty promising, and show off a pretty impressive game engine.

Anyway, the Western RPGs are going to mostly be multiplatform. The Witcher 3, Dragon Age Inquisition, and the like. So, they're almost not worth talking about...

Except MS did buy Lionhead Studios, and they're making a new online RPG in the Fable series. They're a very inconsistent dev team, so who knows how that will turn out, but there's at least the threat of a potential big exclusive there.

Other than Fable Legends tho....

The Wii U will probably have more meaningful RPG exclusives. X looks really promising, for example, and they're working on a Fire Emblem SMT mashup.
 

exdeath

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is it true that there is absolutely no single player in titanfall?

I tried to be surprised. Honest I did.

Another competitive online only macho crotch scratching di*k bumping versus only FPS on Xbox, say it isn't so! I don't believe it!
 
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Arkaign

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I'd bet money it was a time/budget decision. They wanted to get it pushed out quickly, but I bet if it does well enough we'll see a campaign in TF2.
 

American Gunner

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I'd bet money it was a time/budget decision. They wanted to get it pushed out quickly, but I bet if it does well enough we'll see a campaign in TF2.
I really don't think it's a big deal. They knew what they were going for. One of my friends, who plays every COD, said he was bummed that it didn't have a single player. I asked him what was the last COD game where he played the campaign, and he said Black Ops. People will complain about it not being there, but would spend most of their time online with this game anyways.
 

Fulle

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With online competitive shooters, it seems to range from having no single player (CS:GO would be an example) or terrible single player (BF3, BF4, most of the COD games).

I don't think it's a big deal Titanfall went the multiplayer only route.
 

smackababy

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Most FPS single players get the complaint about them just being "tacked on" and are generally viewed as awful.

Them not wasting resources on it and (hopefully) putting it towards the multiplayer is a much better investment IMO. The game is launching with a ton of maps (12!) that are all balanced around 6v6 (unlike in other games where certain maps are only available for certain player counts).