The Official iPhone 5 Thread (Liveblog links inside!)

[WelshBloke]

Apple probably didn't find NFC important enough to put in the effort to fit the chip inside their iPhone. Remember that by volume, the iPhone5 is one of the smallest smartphones out there.

More likely they realized that it wouldn't work with an all aluminium phone.

 

[WelshBloke]

See below.


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Actually, what I'm saying the lack of interest is because it's not very useful to most people. For me it just seems seems like a hassle or a waste of time.

You may as well just bring up Zune squirting.

Yeah but you've already said that you hardly use your phone for anything.

And I have no idea what Zune squirting is.

 

[ControlD]

Almost every BT headphones I've ever used has a horrible MIC and you sound distant to the person your talking too. GRanted I haven't used the headset in years and I never went up to $100 or so for headset.

What headset do you use?

I am using the Phiaton PS20BT. I pretty much use Phiaton headphones exclusively for music because they sound great so my main purpose was to have a set of BT headphones to run with. I will have to admit that I have only made a couple of calls with them so I have to reserve judgement on how they sound to people on the receiving end of my calls. I haven't had any complaints though.

 

[Eug]

Extensions are powerful, but why isn't it a mainstream thing? You tell me. You just gotta get people interested enough to jump. Meanwhile I see stupid Chrome extensions like Gmail being a top extension. Why do you need gmail as an extension when you can go to the site itself. Other things like Adblock should be more highly prioritized.

On my G4s where every little bit of browser speed counts, I added Click2Flash to Safari and suddenly ran into weird website incompatibilities. It was easier just to not install Click2Flash and Flash and deal with the lack of Flash.

About the only plugins I run these days in my browsers are PDF readers, Flash (on faster machines), and stuff like Silverlight, etc.

Yeah but you've already said that you hardly use your phone for anything.

Heh. So I use my smartphone as a smartphone, but not automating audio playback on my stereo. So sue me.

And I have no idea what Zune squirting is.

Indeed.

 

[WelshBloke]

Heh. So I use my smartphone as a smartphone, but not automating audio playback on my stereo. So sue me.

1. Make phone calls
2. SMS
3. Check my calendar
4. Check my email
5. Check my contacts
6. Surf the internet
7. View my webcams
8. Take pictures
9. Tether my tablet or laptop for some of the above
10. etc.

You can do a lot of this on a lower end feature phone, but not all of it, and often the support is much worse, and usually the screen suck.

Theres noting wrong with that but I can see why it might not be useful to you, but as you said you can do most of the things you use it for with a dumbphone.

 

[Eug]

Anyways, Zune squirting was MS's more limited pre-NFC technology, that debuted 6 years ago. Let's just say it didn't get very far. I was wondering if it'd reappear with Windows Phone 8 but using NFC, but I didn't see any mention of it.

Ballmer Talks about Zune and The iPod

Because the value of Zune, if we're successful, is all in the software. It's in community [the ability to share music and pictures with other Zune users]. I want to squirt you a picture of my kids. You want to squirt me back a video of your vacation. That's a software experience.

 

[jpeyton]

It's interesting on many levels to see a company as large as Samsung move so quickly to hit Apple on the iPhone 5:

Whether or not you like the ad (which hit papers today), it's definitely causing some controversy, which is probably the main reason why Samsung released the ad. There's no such thing as bad publicity.

I guess the print ad wasn't enough; here's the new commercial:

http://youtu.be/nf5-Prx19ZM

 

[cheezy321]

I guess the print ad wasn't enough; here's the new commercial:

http://youtu.be/nf5-Prx19ZM

Its pretty pathetic when your entire marketing effort is based on 'HEY LISTEN TO US WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM WE PROMISE!!!!'

 

[WelshBloke]

Its pretty pathetic when your entire marketing effort is based on 'HEY LISTEN TO US WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM WE PROMISE!!!!'

Isnt that pretty much what mac ads have been for years?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Its pretty pathetic when your entire marketing effort is based on 'HEY LISTEN TO US WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM WE PROMISE!!!!'

I'm a mac, I'm a pc?

 

[cheezy321]

I'm a mac, I'm a pc?

Should we go back in a time machine and talk about all ads that aired 5 years ago? It was a stupid ad campaign then too.

 

[cheezy321]

Isnt that pretty much what mac ads have been for years?

Evidence?

 

[WelshBloke]

Evidence?

*Sigh*

Do you really think you're achieving something by posting like this?

 

[Eug]

I guess the print ad wasn't enough; here's the new commercial:

http://youtu.be/nf5-Prx19ZM

Heh, they're squirting in that ad.

I'm a mac, I'm a pc?

Heh, pretty much.

 

[VashHT]

Well got an email saying it's shipping in 14-21 days even though it says shipped on ATT's website. Of course I can't get through to ATT at all, they're really not handling all of this well.

 

[cheezy321]

*Sigh*

Do you really think you're achieving something by posting like this?

From your forum posts I know your style is to write one sentence and not much content. I am curious to see if you can actually procure these recent ads where apple slams Samsung or any other specific competitor.

I await your response.

 

[jpeyton]

You have to admit it's a brilliant strategy from Apple. Charging an extra $200 for and extra $40 worth of NAND flash memory. It's how they produce industry leading margins on all their iDevices.

Looks like I was wrong: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2271674

It's actually $200 for an extra $30 worth of NAND flash. I didn't realize prices on memory had fallen so much.

 

[Aikouka]

Expected Ship Date: 10/05/2012

This better be a very incorrect estimate.

 

[Mopetar]

On my G4s where every little bit of browser speed counts, I added Click2Flash to Safari and suddenly ran into weird website incompatibilities. It was easier just to not install Click2Flash and Flash and deal with the lack of Flash.

I don't have Flash installed on my PC, but Chrome has it built in so if I absolutely need it, I just use Chrome. I'm assuming you could do the same with your Mac, unless there's no PPC support.

More likely they realized that it wouldn't work with an all aluminium phone.

There could be other reasons. I've heard that Apple might be planning on using Bluetooth 4 (or some forthcoming version) rather than NFC. Apparently the power draw has dropped to the point where it can just be left on without demolishing the battery.

Another possibility might be related to patents. I saw a Slashdot article earlier today about Apple being granted an NFC-related patent, but I'm pretty sure that Motorola holds some as well and it's unlikely that they'd be interested in licensing to Apple as NFC isn't an industry standard (at least as far as I'm aware) so Motorola has no obligation to grant Apple a license.

 

[ponyo]

My status is still the same. I don't have a shipping date. Just shows backordered status with zero date. It's not looking good.

 

[cheezy321]

This is why i never deal with 3rd parties when buying an iphone.

I remember AT&T and best buy telling me up until the day iPhone 4's were delivered that they would have the white version in stock. 6 months later the white iPhone 4 is finally released!

 

[badb0y]

At&t really screwed the pooch this time, my order says shipped on their site but my e-mail says wait 14-21 days for delivery.

Dafaq?

 

[Mopetar]

At&t really screwed the pooch this time, my order says shipped on their site but my e-mail says wait 14-21 days for delivery.

Dafaq?

Maybe they're using alternative delivery methods.

 

[Ichinisan]

If I was getting an iPhone I'd probably splurge on the 64GB just because I'd love being able to combine my phone and mp3 player into one device (even though that still wouldn't be enough space, it'd still get me pretty far).

I look forward to phones with storage on the order of a few hundred GB eventually.

iTunes Match lets you stream, if I recall correctly. It's $25 per year. Costs a lot less than buying that 64GB phone. Your phone will be obsolete long before you've spent $200 renewing your iTunes Match subscription.

 

[Aikouka]

Hmm the page from the order email still says that I'm good for 9/21 (it has a + icon now), but the other website lists 10/5.