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BD2003

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If Apple wants to succeed, and stand out from other competitors, you *have* to completely get out of the LCD platform. Use something completely different tech. Invent something. Otherwise it's just another ancient Walmart-grade electronic toys. I know Apple made iPads look pretty and neat but that's not enough... invent a new tech. This is year 2012, guys.

Oh, even more importantly, the build quality and QC has to go up. Raise price tag.

That might be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
 

cheez

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^ It's not ridiculous... it's the coolest and most important comment. I have pointed out the problems on each. Speaking of ridiculous..... yes, it's ridiculous for Apple to *keep* using LCD platform. This has to stop. :)
 

cheez

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The viewing angle on my 3 is roughly equivalent to the 1. Maybe a hair worse. It's no TN panel, but I can still see room for improvement. It definitely starts to dim and color shift with even the slightest tilt.
If you don't mind, let me quote you again. :thumbsup:

So iPad 3 is about equivalent to the iPad 1 in this regard? This is shocking. I mean disappointing. :thumbsdown: This sounded very different than what runawayprisoner said about the viewing angle.


Room for improvement????? Answer: Lots and lots and lots of room for improvement. But I fear LCD tech has pretty much topped out. This is like you are taking a Honda Civic and add bolt-ons and expect the car to produce 400 lb-tq. This is not wise. You need a V8 block to begin with.

Sorry, but I still like your post... I enjoy reading it over and over and over. :D
 

cheez

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Does BestBuy have iPad 3's on display? Maybe I need to check this out in person....
 

BD2003

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If you don't mind, let me quote you again. :thumbsup:

So iPad 3 is about equivalent to the iPad 1 in this regard? This is shocking. I mean disappointing. :thumbsdown: This sounded very different than what runawayprisoner said about the viewing angle.


Room for improvement????? Answer: Lots and lots and lots of room for improvement. But I fear LCD tech has pretty much topped out. This is like you are taking a Honda Civic and add bolt-ons and expect the car to produce 400 lb-tq. This is not wise. You need a V8 block to begin with.

Sorry, but I still like your post... I enjoy reading it over and over and over. :D

You're taking your preconceived notions and applying them to what I said. I in no way said it was anywhere near an issue that I need rectified, or that I find in unacceptable in any way. I've never seen an LCD that didn't exhibit some sort of off angle issue, and the iPad 1 has the best viewing angle I've seen in any LCD. So I'm actually paying the iPad 3 a compliment. It's a fantastic screen.
 

alent1234

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If Apple wants to succeed, and stand out from other competitors, you *have* to completely get out of the LCD platform. Use something completely different tech. Invent something. Otherwise it's just another ancient Walmart-grade electronic toys. I know Apple made iPads look pretty and neat but that's not enough... invent a new tech. This is year 2012, guys.

Oh, even more importantly, the build quality and QC has to go up. Raise price tag.


i've seen the samsung phones in the store. look nice, but the colors are too saturated. it's like Tim burton's alice in wonderland. the ipad's screen is more real world colors
 

BD2003

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i've seen the samsung phones in the store. look nice, but the colors are too saturated. it's like Tim burton's alice in wonderland. the ipad's screen is more real world colors

Every OLED I've seen has been that way. I've usually chalked it up to shitty factory oversaturated settings on the OLED TVs I've seen, but maybe it's just a limitation of the tech.

I'm far more concerned with the reflectivity of the screen than the viewing angle. I dunno if they can make a capacitive touchscreen without glass, but these screens are like mirrors.
 

MaxFusion16

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^ It's not ridiculous... it's the coolest and most important comment. I have pointed out the problems on each. Speaking of ridiculous..... yes, it's ridiculous for Apple to *keep* using LCD platform. This has to stop. :)

No, you need to stop. You haven't contributed one ounce of useful information to this thread.

Frankly, your ridiculous and inflammatory remarks sound like the ramblings of some anger infested teenager.

No one's forcing you to buy apple products. Don't like them? Then don't buy them.

I bet you have no idea how a transistor even works, please kindly log off and format c:\.

You will not be missed.
 
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dlock13

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Getting back to the iPad and not a stupid discussion on why someone's opinion brings down the product.

I need recommendations on a case for this bad boy. I really like the Smart Cover, but obviously, it's not a case. I was thinking of something like the Smart Feather (Incipio) and the Smart Cover, but that would end up costing about.... $80 on those two things alone.

Help! :D
 

runawayprisoner

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Contrary to belief, I think some Netflix movies are playing in HD after the recent update.

It's just that the majority of them still play in SD, and in my opinions, anything less than 1080p looks like crap on the iPad 3.

On a side note, I think the perfect casing alternative right now would be the smart cover plus something that covers the back. Otherwise you're just adding more weight.
 

bearxor

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The viewing angle on my 3 is roughly equivalent to the 1. Maybe a hair worse. It's no TN panel, but I can still see room for improvement. It definitely starts to dim and color shift with even the slightest tilt.

What is the slightest tilt? I have to tilt mine very significantly before I start to see washing out. Way past a 45 degree angle.
 

Synomenon

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Got a 64GB Verizon model yesterday w/ AppleCare+. Found a dead pixel near the bottom right of the screen. Gonna exchange it today. I'm not going to accept any dead pixel on a $1000 (after sales tax) tablet.
 

Rage187

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Ah...so it did fit the new one? Good to hear. A couple reviews said that it didn't. Maybe that was just speculation.

yeah, the first 3 corners went on OK, the 4th was a little tight but it did indeed clip on. The only thing is that the magnet lock/unlock doesn't work. Not a huge deal.
 

BD2003

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What is the slightest tilt? I have to tilt mine very significantly before I start to see washing out. Way past a 45 degree angle.

I mean it only in the sense that as soon as you tilt it, while its still pretty damn good at an extreme angle, it dims juuust enough to know you're looking at a screen. I'm still hopeful that one day we'll have a tech that simply looks perfect off angle. It's a nitpick, but it'd be cool. Resolution is clearly more important, but it feels like that problem is basically solved now.
 

runawayprisoner

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I mean it only in the sense that as soon as you tilt it, while its still pretty damn good at an extreme angle, it dims juuust enough to know you're looking at a screen. I'm still hopeful that one day we'll have a tech that simply looks perfect off angle. It's a nitpick, but it'd be cool. Resolution is clearly more important, but it feels like that problem is basically solved now.

Since you are not looking directly at the light source, of course it'll dim.
 

BD2003

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Since you are not looking directly at the light source, of course it'll dim.

That doesn't account for all of it. Even if it's the best we have, the best commercially available. It's not a knock on the iPad at all because it does very well against the competition in that regard...but there is still room for improvement.
 

IHAVEAQUESTION

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A quick question for you guys.

When I sync my iPad 3 with iTune, it brings all the iPhone version app to the iPad. I thought it would be smart enough to download the iPad version automatically but it's not. Does any of you have similar problem? Running iPhone app on iPad is less than satisfying to say the least...
 

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A quick question for you guys.

When I sync my iPad 3 with iTune, it brings all the iPhone version app to the iPad. I thought it would be smart enough to download the iPad version automatically but it's not. Does any of you have similar problem? Running iPhone app on iPad is less than satisfying to say the least...

If you've downloaded those apps to your phone, syched to itunes, and then re-synched to your ipad it will pull the same apps as your phone. It won't go out and check for an ipad version and push that. Not very many apps have an iPad only version.

Be happy that the 3rd gen is a HUGE improvement in upscaling iphone games. They look night and day better on the 3 than they do earlier gens.
 

IHAVEAQUESTION

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If you've downloaded those apps to your phone, syched to itunes, and then re-synched to your ipad it will pull the same apps as your phone. It won't go out and check for an ipad version and push that. Not very many apps have an iPad only version.

Be happy that the 3rd gen is a HUGE improvement in upscaling iphone games. They look night and day better on the 3 than they do earlier gens.

If I knew that I would opt not to sync app at all. Now I've got a mix of iphone and ipad apps on my iPad...time to figure out what to delete...
 

Mxylplyx

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If Apple wants to succeed, and stand out from other competitors, you *have* to completely get out of the LCD platform. Use something completely different tech. Invent something. Otherwise it's just another ancient Walmart-grade electronic toys. I know Apple made iPads look pretty and neat but that's not enough... invent a new tech. This is year 2012, guys.

Oh, even more importantly, the build quality and QC has to go up. Raise price tag.

Am I reading this right?

"If Apple wants to succeed, and stand out from other competitors"

Have you been living in a box the past several years?