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trenchfoot

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So I'll say this a 'lil prematurely in order to provide an answer in kind and in spirit, but nonetheless: "Biden/Harris won, get over it."
 
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BUTCH1

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It just irks me. New York is pushing the social distancing restrictions hard... unless it's a political rally for their party. Then it seems to turn into a free for all.
This was not a planned event, you can't contain the joy and feeling of relief people are experiencing now that
Captian bone-spur is gone in January.
 

zinfamous

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This was assumed to be the case when the George Floyd protests started, but no super spreader events happen. Can't be said the same for a certain loser's political rallies.

I was going to mention the same thing. Looking at these crowds as with the anti-fascist protests over the summer, it looks like these people are mostly wearing masks.

Weird how that works, huh? Almost like stupid people should probably start listening to smart people.
 

zinfamous

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It just irks me. New York is pushing the social distancing restrictions hard... unless it's a political rally for their party. Then it seems to turn into a free for all.

I certainly understand, but I mean, this country has been in a figurative prison for the last 4 years. People gonna let it out.
 
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snoopy7548

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hal2kilo

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Fox pundits saying nothing is decided until Dec. 14 when the electors meet. Just more reality aversion.
 

twjr

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I look at all the footage of the celebrations and think "Shit, you guys are still balls deep in the pandemic!". But I can understand the celebrations. The Trump presidency has been a four year pandemic of lies, corruption and incompetence. Four more years of Trump would have been far worse than this pandemic (although I say this as someone who is privileged to live in a state that hasn't had local transmission of the virus in over six months).

Personally I'm pretty stoked about the result and I don't even have a horse in the race. Even my apolitical wife has been following the election. I think that's because this election has true global ramifications.
 

manly

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I look at all the footage of the celebrations and think "Shit, you guys are still balls deep in the pandemic!". But I can understand the celebrations. The Trump presidency has been a four year pandemic of lies, corruption and incompetence. Four more years of Trump would have been far worse than this pandemic (although I say this as someone who is privileged to live in a state that hasn't had local transmission of the virus in over six months).

Personally I'm pretty stoked about the result and I don't even have a horse in the race. Even my apolitical wife has been following the election. I think that's because this election has true global ramifications.
Outdoors with nearly universal mask wearing is reasonably safe. Obviously not everyone will be smart and so it's not an entirely risk-free environment.

You're in New Zealand? American politics aside, I think the entire world has a horse in the climate change race.
 

hal2kilo

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Personally I'm pretty stoked about the result and I don't even have a horse in the race. Even my apolitical wife has been following the election. I think that's because this election has true global ramifications.
Something Biden can do quite easily and can't be blocked by the right guard resistance. He will be able to bring some calm and reassurance to our allies.
 

hal2kilo

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Maybe someone needs to explain to Trump, that conceding now, does not mean he can't do anymore damage before he has to leave.
 

twjr

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Outdoors with nearly universal mask wearing is reasonably safe. Obviously not everyone will be smart and so it's not an entirely risk-free environment.

You're in New Zealand? American politics aside, I think the entire world has a horse in the climate change race.
Nothing we do is entirely risk free, but I can totally understand taking the risk to celebrate this result.

I currently live in Western Australia. We've gone even longer than NZ without local transmission.

Agree re climate change. Hopefully a Biden win will force our Federal Government's hand on climate change. Going to be really hard for us to justify not having a plan for net zero when both China and the US do.
 
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Zorba

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Good article about the mixed impact of COVID on this election. Conventional wisdom is that Trump lost voter share because of his erratic and incompetent handling of it. But there's another side. Trump had a massive ground game that they spent over $350 million on, 2.5 million volunteers doing door to door knocking in swing states. Modelled after, of all things, Obama's 2012 campaign which they studied.

While Biden, to stay consistent on COVID, did a modest ground game, calls and mailers only. This increased republican turnout and probably hurt the down ballot races.


This IMO was a huge mistake which probably cost us the Senate and some House seats.
Not just that, the isolation pushed people to the conspiracy theories.
 
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twjr

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Something Biden can do quite easily and can't be blocked by the right guard resistance. He will be able to bring some calm and reassurance to our allies.
That can't come soon enough for Australia and the UK. The Murdoch/Facebook/Trump Trinity has wrecked havoc on our democracies too. Trump was a great enabler of despicable behaviour among like minded demagogues.
 
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eelw

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Nightfall coming. Let's hope the crowd disperses before the opportunists come and make the celebrations into looting or even worse Trumpards cause damage and set things on fire. And yes orange loser defenders, it's agent provocateur that made the peaceful BLM protests look bad.
 
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