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The Obama administration said Tuesday it could continue to imprison non-U.S. citizens indefinitely

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This thread is classic. Obama could murder a toddler on live TV and this is roughly the response we would get in here in response to it.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: cliftonite

And those on the right weren't/aren't guilty of the same thing? How many were excusing the same behavior/policies that you find wrong on the right?

There has been no hypocrisy that I can see from reactions to Obama's continuing of Bush security/defense policy. Righties either agreed with it or didn't under Bush and maintain that stance.

I thought it was fine with Bush and think it's fine with Obama. It's one of the few things he's doing right.

Are you privy to something we aren't? If these individuals have been cleared and it's been established that they have no ties to Al Qaeda, the Taliban or any terrorist activities or groups why should they be held? Do you believe that being unjustly imprisoned has made them so bitter that they are now a threat?
When I think of their situation I put myself in their shoes, what's happening to them is so ethically wrong that I really can't justify Obama doing it even though I support him on most issues.
 
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This thread is classic. Obama could murder a toddler on live TV and this is roughly the response we would get in here in response to it.

Just like you and your ilk were OK with the previous Administration causing the deaths of thousands of innocents for the sake of Pax Americana
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This thread is classic. Obama could murder a toddler on live TV and this is roughly the response we would get in here in response to it.

Just like you and your ilk were OK with the previous Administration causing the deaths of thousands of innocents for the sake of Pax Americana

So you are willing to hold Obama to the same standard as Bush, instead of raising the bar?
 
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This thread is classic. Obama could murder a toddler on live TV and this is roughly the response we would get in here in response to it.

Just like you and your ilk were OK with the previous Administration causing the deaths of thousands of innocents for the sake of Pax Americana

So you are willing to hold Obama to the same standard as Bush, instead of raising the bar?
You didn't read my previous post where I said it was wrong of Obama to continue to hold these people if they had been shown to be innocent?
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This thread is classic. Obama could murder a toddler on live TV and this is roughly the response we would get in here in response to it.

Just like you and your ilk were OK with the previous Administration causing the deaths of thousands of innocents for the sake of Pax Americana

So you are willing to hold Obama to the same standard as Bush, instead of raising the bar?
You didn't read my previous post where I said it was wrong of Obama to continue to hold these people if they had been shown to be innocent?

My apologies, I did not. 😱
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: cliftonite

And those on the right weren't/aren't guilty of the same thing? How many were excusing the same behavior/policies that you find wrong on the right?

There has been no hypocrisy that I can see from reactions to Obama's continuing of Bush security/defense policy. Righties either agreed with it or didn't under Bush and maintain that stance.

I thought it was fine with Bush and think it's fine with Obama. It's one of the few things he's doing right.

Are you privy to something we aren't? If these individuals have been cleared and it's been established that they have no ties to Al Qaeda, the Taliban or any terrorist activities or groups why should they be held? Do you believe that being unjustly imprisoned has made them so bitter that they are now a threat?
When I think of their situation I put myself in their shoes, what's happening to them is so ethically wrong that I really can't justify Obama doing it even though I support him on most issues.

Where do you live? Can we release them in your neighborhood and you would be ok with that? Because it is funny that their own country does not want these people. What makes you think Americans are going to want them living here? So what do we do with these people?

Oh that's right Obama himself is keeping them locked and I'm not shedding one tear for them. I'm heartless bastard like that.



 
This is just wrong. I didn't like it when Bush did it, and I find it disgusting that Obama is continuing it. I thought he said he was going to end it?

Heck, this is one of the things I actually agreed with him on. Is there some super secret reason for indefinite imprisonment?
 
Originally posted by: tk149
This is just wrong. I didn't like it when Bush did it, and I find it disgusting that Obama is continuing it. I thought he said he was going to end it?

Heck, this is one of the things I actually agreed with him on. Is there some super secret reason for indefinite imprisonment?

Their native countries don't want them back, and no one here wants them, since every politician knows that it would be political suicide to allow them into their district/state.
 
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This thread is classic. Obama could murder a toddler on live TV and this is roughly the response we would get in here in response to it.

Quit projecting right-wing blind loyalty onto your liberal conterparts. Doesn't fly. Just because you sheeple have broken thinking processes doesn't mean everyone else does.
 
Originally posted by: Jeffg010
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: cliftonite

And those on the right weren't/aren't guilty of the same thing? How many were excusing the same behavior/policies that you find wrong on the right?

There has been no hypocrisy that I can see from reactions to Obama's continuing of Bush security/defense policy. Righties either agreed with it or didn't under Bush and maintain that stance.

I thought it was fine with Bush and think it's fine with Obama. It's one of the few things he's doing right.

Are you privy to something we aren't? If these individuals have been cleared and it's been established that they have no ties to Al Qaeda, the Taliban or any terrorist activities or groups why should they be held? Do you believe that being unjustly imprisoned has made them so bitter that they are now a threat?
When I think of their situation I put myself in their shoes, what's happening to them is so ethically wrong that I really can't justify Obama doing it even though I support him on most issues.

Where do you live? Can we release them in your neighborhood and you would be ok with that? Because it is funny that their own country does not want these people. What makes you think Americans are going to want them living here? So what do we do with these people?

Oh that's right Obama himself is keeping them locked and I'm not shedding one tear for them. I'm heartless bastard like that.
I was thinking Pittsburgh would be a good place for them
 
I saw in another thread the comment that liberals are avoiding this thread because they don't like the truth herein.

I just wanted to confirm that I am avoiding it and for that reason. I don't know the subject and I don't want to find out and have to deal with it. I am a coward and don't like the smell of it.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Jeffg010
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: cliftonite

And those on the right weren't/aren't guilty of the same thing? How many were excusing the same behavior/policies that you find wrong on the right?

There has been no hypocrisy that I can see from reactions to Obama's continuing of Bush security/defense policy. Righties either agreed with it or didn't under Bush and maintain that stance.

I thought it was fine with Bush and think it's fine with Obama. It's one of the few things he's doing right.

Are you privy to something we aren't? If these individuals have been cleared and it's been established that they have no ties to Al Qaeda, the Taliban or any terrorist activities or groups why should they be held? Do you believe that being unjustly imprisoned has made them so bitter that they are now a threat?
When I think of their situation I put myself in their shoes, what's happening to them is so ethically wrong that I really can't justify Obama doing it even though I support him on most issues.

Where do you live? Can we release them in your neighborhood and you would be ok with that? Because it is funny that their own country does not want these people. What makes you think Americans are going to want them living here? So what do we do with these people?

Oh that's right Obama himself is keeping them locked and I'm not shedding one tear for them. I'm heartless bastard like that.
I was thinking Pittsburgh would be a good place for them

Sure send them to the Steelers they can be used as tackle dummy's. You see you voided my question about about releasing them in your location. So now let me ask you again would you let them be released in your neighborhood?

 
Originally posted by: Jeffg010
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Jeffg010
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: cliftonite

And those on the right weren't/aren't guilty of the same thing? How many were excusing the same behavior/policies that you find wrong on the right?

There has been no hypocrisy that I can see from reactions to Obama's continuing of Bush security/defense policy. Righties either agreed with it or didn't under Bush and maintain that stance.

I thought it was fine with Bush and think it's fine with Obama. It's one of the few things he's doing right.

Are you privy to something we aren't? If these individuals have been cleared and it's been established that they have no ties to Al Qaeda, the Taliban or any terrorist activities or groups why should they be held? Do you believe that being unjustly imprisoned has made them so bitter that they are now a threat?
When I think of their situation I put myself in their shoes, what's happening to them is so ethically wrong that I really can't justify Obama doing it even though I support him on most issues.

Where do you live? Can we release them in your neighborhood and you would be ok with that? Because it is funny that their own country does not want these people. What makes you think Americans are going to want them living here? So what do we do with these people?

Oh that's right Obama himself is keeping them locked and I'm not shedding one tear for them. I'm heartless bastard like that.
I was thinking Pittsburgh would be a good place for them

Sure send them to the Steelers they can be used as tackle dummy's. You see you voided my question about about releasing them in your location. So now let me ask you again would you let them be released in your neighborhood?
Sure and we need to give them some kind of stipend for the injustice we've done to them. It's not easy having ethical standards as a country, especially when you consider the great evil we've done to these guys. If their own country doesn't want them back then it's our responsibility to take care of them and their families.

All kidding aside, if they are considered dangerous wouldn't they be continually monitored? And if they are in our own backyard it would be that much easier to keep track of them.
 
I know this is going to sound crazy, but....I'd actually be OK with that. People who have been determined to be innocent, we'll send them and their family through the US Immigration program, and make the US citizens, along with a reasonable stipend. That's if they so choose.

Of course, I expect our Fed. to monitor them secretly behind their backs (that's: W/o it leaking to the press and hence the world).

And Yes, providing they went through the US Immigration program, I'd be OK with them being in the area, even have one next door.

I doubt once they, and their families, got a taste of the real America, they'd be so quick to hate it.

Chuck
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Jeffg010
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Jeffg010
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: cliftonite

And those on the right weren't/aren't guilty of the same thing? How many were excusing the same behavior/policies that you find wrong on the right?

There has been no hypocrisy that I can see from reactions to Obama's continuing of Bush security/defense policy. Righties either agreed with it or didn't under Bush and maintain that stance.

I thought it was fine with Bush and think it's fine with Obama. It's one of the few things he's doing right.

Are you privy to something we aren't? If these individuals have been cleared and it's been established that they have no ties to Al Qaeda, the Taliban or any terrorist activities or groups why should they be held? Do you believe that being unjustly imprisoned has made them so bitter that they are now a threat?
When I think of their situation I put myself in their shoes, what's happening to them is so ethically wrong that I really can't justify Obama doing it even though I support him on most issues.

Where do you live? Can we release them in your neighborhood and you would be ok with that? Because it is funny that their own country does not want these people. What makes you think Americans are going to want them living here? So what do we do with these people?

Oh that's right Obama himself is keeping them locked and I'm not shedding one tear for them. I'm heartless bastard like that.
I was thinking Pittsburgh would be a good place for them

Sure send them to the Steelers they can be used as tackle dummy's. You see you voided my question about about releasing them in your location. So now let me ask you again would you let them be released in your neighborhood?
Sure and we need to give them some kind of stipend for the injustice we've done to them. It's not easy having ethical standards as a country, especially when you consider the great evil we've done to these guys. If their own country doesn't want them back then it's our responsibility to take care of them and their families.

All kidding aside, if they are considered dangerous wouldn't they be continually monitored? And if they are in our own backyard it would be that much easier to keep track of them.

Michael Jackson was found 'innocent' as well.. But there is no way in hell 98.44% of parents in the country would let their kids spend the night with him. I suspect the same is true for most of these 'innocent' people as well. But feel free to open up your house for them.
 
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Michael Jackson was found 'innocent' as well.. But there is no way in hell 98.44% of parents in the country would let their kids spend the night with him.
Unless they wanted a big payday

I suspect the same is true for most of these 'innocent' people as well. But feel free to open up your house for them.
No that last thing I want is to associate with any religious whackos.
 
Originally posted by: dali71
Originally posted by: tk149
This is just wrong. I didn't like it when Bush did it, and I find it disgusting that Obama is continuing it. I thought he said he was going to end it?

Heck, this is one of the things I actually agreed with him on. Is there some super secret reason for indefinite imprisonment?

Their native countries don't want them back, and no one here wants them, since every politician knows that it would be political suicide to allow them into their district/state.

In which case I could understand why they are being given housing, but would not understand why (and correct me if I'm wrong) they are still being IMPRISONED.

I bet Chavez would take them.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I saw in another thread the comment that liberals are avoiding this thread because they don't like the truth herein.

I just wanted to confirm that I am avoiding it and for that reason. I don't know the subject and I don't want to find out and have to deal with it. I am a coward and don't like the smell of it.
The subject is "your president is a disaster".
 
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I saw in another thread the comment that liberals are avoiding this thread because they don't like the truth herein.

I just wanted to confirm that I am avoiding it and for that reason. I don't know the subject and I don't want to find out and have to deal with it. I am a coward and don't like the smell of it.
The subject is "your president is a disaster".

But Bu... nevermind.. 😉
 
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I saw in another thread the comment that liberals are avoiding this thread because they don't like the truth herein.

I just wanted to confirm that I am avoiding it and for that reason. I don't know the subject and I don't want to find out and have to deal with it. I am a coward and don't like the smell of it.
The subject is "your president is a disaster".
At least according to those whose opinions are known to be questionable.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Looks like I was right. Most of the people on the left in this forum who post regularly came out and condemned this. Sure a few people didn't, but who really cares? This thread became embarrassing for the people who are caught up in trying to get people to post quite awhile back.

LOL - what...I counted a few tepid condemnations, and most of the with a caveat. You must be so proud of your brethren!

Hell, I think we got more condemnation of Bush on this issue from the right-wingers back when Bush was doing it! :laugh:

What exactly is your point?

That blatant hypocrisy is a trademark of leftists, as proven over and over and over again. It's an inability to think, it's like a mental illness - cognitive dissonance that breaks their fragile wittle minds.

What, you are a member of a party that voted for Sarah Palin, and you accuse others of an inability to think?

What Obama is doing here is complete and utter bullshit and I'm not happy about it. But I'm not a Republican so I don't believe that imprisoning innocent people is a good thing.

If they are innocent, they should be given asylum and if they desire, citizenship and a opportunity to move where they want on the government's dime along with a pension. We destroyed their lives, its only right.

Also they get an opportunity to waterboard Dick Cheney.
 
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