The new Samsung Galaxy S4 Gold

[cheezy321]

Does that not sound nonsensical even to you?

It would be if Samsung didn't have a long trackable history of being a ME TOO copier.

Have you seen their smart-watch? It looks like it was hobbled together without any real thought put into it. Sadly it probably would have been a better product if Apple released one first so Samsung could have a blueprint to go off of.

 

[WelshBloke]

It would be if Samsung didn't have a long trackable history of being a ME TOO copier.

Have you seen their smart-watch? It looks like it was hobbled together without any real thought put into it. Sadly it probably would have been a better product if Apple released one first so Samsung could have a blueprint to go off of.

So in one post your saying that they are and aren't copying Apple?

Honestly take a little time over your trolling next time. 🙄

 

[dguy6789]

iPhone is still cool enough for the android market leader to copy it at every turn. Shit, Samsung copies stuff that Apple is just rumored to be working on (iWatch anyone?). People scream all day that Apple doesn't innovate (which is valid in a lot of cases). So if Apple doesn't innovate, then what does Samsung do?

They all copy one another. Apple was 2nd to get high PPI screens, a good camera, a big screen, multi tasking, real notifications, LTE, cloud sync I could go on and on.

Smartwatches have existed for years and both Samsung and Apple have been rumored to be working on them for a long time.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

This post. It makes no sense.

People have been releasing extra tacky versions of phones in the Gulf for ages.

Also lots of people said big screens on phones were stupid. Samsung seems to have made a success of that. Indeed the market seems happy to follow them there.

Perhaps, but most moves that Samsung have made so far have been a "me too" gesture. Hey let's modify Android by adding a dock with iOS like icons. Gold iPhone? Gold S4! iWatch? Galaxy Gear.

You'd have to be seriously biased not to notice a difference between Apple's copying and Samsung's copying. The difference is Samsung copies something that's already hugely successful or will be successful.

As for large screens, Samsung wasn't a leader in creating a trend of large screens or anything. The entire tech industry, be it TVs, cell phones, GPS units, etc. were all moving towards larger screens. We've gone from 1.8" screens to 2" screens to 2.6" screens with the N95 when the iPhone was released. HTC's Touch Diamond went from 2.8" to 3.2". In the case of large screens, the entire industry was moving that way, and therefore Samsung was just going with the flow.

So in one post your saying that they are and aren't copying Apple?

Honestly take a little time over your trolling next time. 🙄

Are you serious? The threat of an iWatch has been discussed for over a year now. You really think Samsung would've launched a smartwatch at IFA 2013 had there been no rumors about Apple? Had the rumor been Apple was working with car manufacturers for integrated iPads, I can guarantee you, there would have been no smart watch then. Samsung would've put its efforts somewhere else.

 

[Eug]

Well, a fair bit of iOS 7 is copied from Android and BB10 and Windows Phone 8.

 

[bearxor]

As for large screens, Samsung wasn't a leader in creating a trend of large screens or anything. The entire tech industry, be it TVs, cell phones, GPS units, etc. were all moving towards larger screens. We've gone from 1.8" screens to 2" screens to 2.6" screens with the N95 when the iPhone was released. HTC's Touch Diamond went from 2.8" to 3.2". In the case of large screens, the entire industry was moving that way, and therefore Samsung was just going with the flow.

I want to amend this and say that the screen size trend was actually going downwards before the iPhone. There were 3.5" smart phones in 2002 - 2005 but then something happened and it started trending downwards with HTC leading the way.

 

[ControlD]

You'd have to be seriously biased not to notice a difference between Apple's copying and Samsung's copying. The difference is Samsung copies something that's already hugely successful or will be successful.

How do you copy something that will be successful? Did Samsung manage to copy a time machine as well?

Damn, I think I have it all figured out now!

/sarcasm

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I want to amend this and say that the screen size trend was actually going downwards before the iPhone. There were 3.5" smart phones in 2002 - 2005 but then something happened and it started trending downwards with HTC leading the way.

Well I don't know. I didn't own a smartphone til later. Here are phones I followed/owned. While they're dumbphones, they were high end featurephones better than anything in the US, and were highly sought after in Asia:

K700i (2004): 1.78"
K750i (2005): 1.8"
K800i (2006): 2.0"
K850i (2007): 2.2"

These were direct successors and were Sony Ericsson's flagship featurephones.

Nokia's N-series was like this:

N80 (2006): 2.2"
N95-1/-3 (early '07): 2.4"
N95-2/-4 (late '07): 2.8"
N97: 3.5"
N9: 3.9"

 

[Ravynmagi]

It kinda bugs me that Samsung and HTC does this, release a phone, then start adding different color options months after the original phone launched. Wish all the color options would be available or at least announced on day one.

As for the golden Samsung phone. Kinda funny this comes out just days after the golden iPhone launch.

I'm not against the color gold, but I don't like the gold/white combination. Now that gold and black Galaxy S4 looks quite a bit nicer. Still not sure I'd buy that, but I'm much more likely to consider gold and black than gold and white.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

How do you copy something that will be successful? Did Samsung manage to copy a time machine as well?

Damn, I think I have it all figured out now!

/sarcasm

You're clearly just being very obtuse in this whole discussion. It's not that Samsung knows for 100% certainty that an iWatch will be successful, but it's not hard to figure out that it will be based on the amount of speculation, rumor, and hype that's generated around it. You don't think Samsung has a bunch of analysts running numbers, marketing analytics, to understand the market for a smart watch? It's very likely that they saw what Apple was doing, did their own due diligence, and realized that if they beat Apple to the punch they could capture some early marketshare and momentum.

Samsung likely had very little if not any information there would be a gold iPhone. All of us were shocked too. Therefore, in this instance, they promoted the gold GS4 only AFTER the announcement by Apple and the realization how successful a gold iPhone could be.

There's different levels of copying, but it seems like only a few people on this thread recognize that there's industry trends and then there's the "omg me too" copying to mimic a leader.

 

[cheezy321]

Not to mention the smart watch is clearly not ready for primetime.

1. Terrible battery life
2. No Wifi connection
3. No data connection
4. Not compatible with by far the most popular Samsung phones (S3 and S4)
5. Only works with Galaxy Note 3
6. No facebook or twitter integration
7. No pandora, spotify integration

The watch was clearly not ready and was a complete 'first to market' hack job.

 

[MrX8503]

Sorry, iphone hasnt been "cool" since the 4. But i agree, copying gold was dumber than having gold in the first place.

Not cool according to who?
9million iPhones over the weekend anyone? There's quite a bit of fanfare for every iPhone release.

Smartwatches have existed for years and both Samsung and Apple have been rumored to be working on them for a long time.

The galaxy gear is proof of what Samsung is capable of without a successful device available for them to copy.

 

[Zaap]

Shit, Samsung copies stuff that Apple is just rumored to be working on (iWatch anyone?)

LOL!!! Best laugh I've had so far today!

So even *BEFORE* Apple *supposedly* makes something... Samsung making something is "copying" Apple.

LOL!

It doesn't get any wackier than that.

 

[lothar]

iPhone is still cool enough for the android market leader to copy it at every turn. Shit, Samsung copies stuff that Apple is just rumored to be working on (iWatch anyone?). People scream all day that Apple doesn't innovate (which is valid in a lot of cases). So if Apple doesn't innovate, then what does Samsung do?

More like it's Apple that will copy Samsung.
Samsung watch exists...Apple's iWatch so far is vaporware.
You can't copy a product that doesn't exist.

 

[WelshBloke]

Perhaps, but most moves that Samsung have made so far have been a "me too" gesture. Hey let's modify Android by adding a dock with iOS like icons. Gold iPhone? Gold S4! iWatch? Galaxy Gear...

Lol one of those doesn't exist yet, one involves painting a phone a different colour and ones an icon pack. 😀

On the converse if I wanted to be just as idiotic I could say Apple copied Samsung by increasing the size of their phones and releasing the iPad mini to compete with Samsung's phablet.

It's a stupid argument. The industry has trends and everyone is chasing them, it moves in small iterations of improvements and you can pick any arbitrary point to make a retarded opinion.

 

[Zaap]

So Apple's multi-colored plastic iPhones... somehow NOT a copy?

Awww gee, looks like people went off with their facts wrong again:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/tech...s-samsung-already-had-gold-phone-first/69842/

Yet another case of Samsung copying Apple by being first! LOL! Thanks for the laughs already today!

 

[Eug]

So Apple's multi-colored plastic iPhones... somehow NOT a copy?

Of whom? Nokia maybe?

Themselves, since they were big on colour on previous products?

Awww gee, looks like people went off with their facts wrong again:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/tech...s-samsung-already-had-gold-phone-first/69842/

Yet another case of Samsung copying Apple by being first! LOL! Thanks for the laughs already today!

You can't be serious. That's a frickin' low end flip phone.

 

[cheezy321]

More like it's Apple that will copy Samsung.
Samsung watch exists...Apple's iWatch so far is vaporware.
You can't copy a product that doesn't exist.

And just look at what type of product Samsung releases when they don't have someone to copy. A hobbled mess with a ton of deficiencies. If only they had a blueprint to copy maybe they would have released a decent product.

 

[ControlD]

You're clearly just being very obtuse in this whole discussion. It's not that Samsung knows for 100% certainty that an iWatch will be successful, but it's not hard to figure out that it will be based on the amount of speculation, rumor, and hype that's generated around it. You don't think Samsung has a bunch of analysts running numbers, marketing analytics, to understand the market for a smart watch? It's very likely that they saw what Apple was doing, did their own due diligence, and realized that if they beat Apple to the punch they could capture some early marketshare and momentum.

Samsung likely had very little if not any information there would be a gold iPhone. All of us were shocked too. Therefore, in this instance, they promoted the gold GS4 only AFTER the announcement by Apple and the realization how successful a gold iPhone could be.

There's different levels of copying, but it seems like only a few people on this thread recognize that there's industry trends and then there's the "omg me too" copying to mimic a leader.

Of course I was being somewhat obtuse, I thought that was obvious from the /sarcasm tag.

Still, how do you copy something that doesn't exist? Sure you can take the idea that has been floated out there and run with it, but there is nothing to copy when you are trying to be first to market (assuming no industrial espionage). I guess the Wright brothers were just a bunch of damned copiers too. The idea of a vehicle that moved through the air had been around for a long time before they made it work. Must be why they were called the Samsung of a previous generation. (that's sarcasm too btw)

Your accurate description of Samsung analyzing the market and trying to be first to produce a product is pretty much what every company tries to do in every sector isn't it? And if you aren't first you then try to break into markets that are trending upwards. I'm not sure why the portable electronics market is supposed to work differently.

 

[lothar]

i really hate some of the stupid trends apple set and then almost everyone else followed:
4- gold. what is next?
wood? stone? brick? bamboo? unobtainium?

More like Apple is the one doing the following...
Samsung has released gold phones prior as an exclusive in several regions...This isn't their first time. And so has other manufacturers.
Fake gold, shiny products, and all are very popular in Asia, Africa, and Middle Eastern countries.

HTC(as recently as this year even) has also released gold phones prior to Apple's release.

Wood(or Bamboo?) already exists with the Moto X.
As for what's next...What I really want is a phone made of Adamantium.

 

[Eug]

I'm not convinced Apple will release an iWatch anytime soon. I just don't see the point.

It's about as likely as Apple releasing iTV (not Apple TV, which is a different product).

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

So Apple's multi-colored plastic iPhones... somehow NOT a copy?

Awww gee, looks like people went off with their facts wrong again:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/tech...s-samsung-already-had-gold-phone-first/69842/

Yet another case of Samsung copying Apple by being first! LOL! Thanks for the laughs already today!

I'm not talking about who's first or second. I'm talking about who's copying who. Do you really think Apple looked up this phone and said "man, what a winner, Samsung's a champ, we have to copy this" or do you think its more likely Samsung saw the reception the Gold iPhone got, and decided to jump in.

You're so focused on just trying to find 1 example to show that someone got to gold first to disprove copying, but that doesn't disprove anything.

 

[lothar]

Of whom? Nokia maybe?

Themselves, since they were big on colour on previous products?

You can't be serious. That's a frickin' low end flip phone.

Wait...
So you're defending Apple on copying Nokia.

But when Samsung does it and people point that out, you say "it's a low end flip phone"?
Why aren't you using the "it's an iPod/iMac" excuse for Apple then?

So it's okay for Apple to copy from themselves, but not Samsung? :hmm:

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Wait...
So you're defending Apple on copying Nokia.

But when Samsung does it and people point that out, you say "it's a low end flip phone"?
Why aren't you using the "it's an iPod/iMac" excuse for Apple then?

So it's okay for Apple to copy from themselves, but not Samsung? :hmm:

How many units did Nokia actually move in 1998? I highly doubt it was marketed the same way too that Apple is marketing it now. Hell I don't even remember those phones. Given how few Nokia models actually made it to the US, I'm not even sure if I've ever seen these.

Do you really think Apple looked to Nokia and said let's copy that? Even if they did, they executed far differently, and this is less of a "me too" scenario.

 

[lothar]

And just look at what type of product Samsung releases when they don't have someone to copy. A hobbled mess with a ton of deficiencies. If only they had a blueprint to copy maybe they would have released a decent product.

So, you're telling me that Apple's iWatch that is rumored to be released next year will have all these features? I'm calling Shens.

Not to mention the smart watch is clearly not ready for primetime.

1. Terrible battery life
2. No Wifi connection
3. No data connection
4. Not compatible with by far the most popular Samsung phones (S3 and S4)
5. Only works with Galaxy Note 3
6. No facebook or twitter integration
7. No pandora, spotify integration

The watch was clearly not ready and was a complete 'first to market' hack job.

Someone needs to mark this post for the future...