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DealMonkey

Lifer
Nov 25, 2001
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Wow, it's almost too easy to flip this 180-degreess politically and have it apply perfectly!

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Apparently to the conservative mindset, a lot. For them, government is a negative force that cynically manipulates people. Private business on the other hand is never cynical and never manipulates... they are the all-knowing all-caring experts that we must all follow lock-step.

There you go, fixed.

You manage to cling to one irrational fear (of gov't) while pointing out how everyone else is doing the same thing. No one ever said that corporate sponsorship was wrong in every single instance, just this one.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
But here's something to chew on (besides your fat-laden pizza, that is), at least government can claim to be looking out for people's best interests, whereas corporations can hardly make the same claim.
Haha, that's funny. Government is looking out for people's best interests? Fcking hilarious!

I'll give you a hint. Government looks out for governments best interests, just like a corporation does. Why? They're both comprised of people. People who look out for their own interests above those of others. You fools who believe government is some benevolent force which only exists for the good of the governed are severely deluded.

Interesting that you have so much distrust of gov't, yet have no such distrust of corporations. IMHO, we should have a healthy distrust of both. And yet, I still see more motive for gov't to act in a benevolent way and no such motive for corporations. One could argue that seat-belt laws or helmet laws are stupid gov't invasion of our personal choices, etc., but how many people are still alive after an accident because of them?

Interesting that you attribute something to me which has no basis in fact. I trust neither governments nor corporations. The fact that Democrats place place their trust in one while Republicans place their trust in the other makes them both sheep in my eyes, as are you. Baaaaa, for me little sheep. Baaaaa.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Craig234
Blah blah blah, lots of bullshit, blah blah.
For the amount of typing you do, you never actually have anything of value to say.

 

cwjerome

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Sep 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Wow, it's almost too easy to flip this 180-degreess politically and have it apply perfectly!

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Apparently to the conservative mindset, a lot. For them, government is a negative force that cynically manipulates people. Private business on the other hand is never cynical and never manipulates... they are the all-knowing all-caring experts that we must all follow lock-step.

There you go, fixed.

You manage to cling to one irrational fear (of gov't) while pointing out how everyone else is doing the same thing. No one ever said that corporate sponsorship was wrong in every single instance, just this one.

There's nothing irrational about a healthy suspicion of government. We can be suspicious of business also, but not in the same manner... business is just private people essentially begging me to use them, while government has the power to control virtually everything in my life by the barrel of a gun (semi-metaphorically).

Free people conducting free enterprise may not always be the prettiest thing, but it's almost always insignificant compared to what governments can do to man and society. Take off your Marxist-colored lenses and you'll discover that fact also.
 

DealMonkey

Lifer
Nov 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
But here's something to chew on (besides your fat-laden pizza, that is), at least government can claim to be looking out for people's best interests, whereas corporations can hardly make the same claim.
Haha, that's funny. Government is looking out for people's best interests? Fcking hilarious!

I'll give you a hint. Government looks out for governments best interests, just like a corporation does. Why? They're both comprised of people. People who look out for their own interests above those of others. You fools who believe government is some benevolent force which only exists for the good of the governed are severely deluded.

Interesting that you have so much distrust of gov't, yet have no such distrust of corporations. IMHO, we should have a healthy distrust of both. And yet, I still see more motive for gov't to act in a benevolent way and no such motive for corporations. One could argue that seat-belt laws or helmet laws are stupid gov't invasion of our personal choices, etc., but how many people are still alive after an accident because of them?

Interesting that you attribute something to me which has no basis in fact. I trust neither governments nor corporations. The fact that Democrats place place their trust in one while Republicans place their trust in the other makes them both sheep in my eyes, as are you. Baaaaa, for me little sheep. Baaaaa.

I apologize if I characterized you improperly. Still, how do you figure me for sheep since I just said two seconds ago, and I quote: "...we should have a healthy distrust of both." Don't right a wrong with another wrong.
 

Orignal Earl

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Oct 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Wow, it's almost too easy to flip this 180-degreess politically and have it apply perfectly!

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Apparently to the conservative mindset, a lot. For them, government is a negative force that cynically manipulates people. Private business on the other hand is never cynical and never manipulates... they are the all-knowing all-caring experts that we must all follow lock-step.

There you go, fixed.

You manage to cling to one irrational fear (of gov't) while pointing out how everyone else is doing the same thing. No one ever said that corporate sponsorship was wrong in every single instance, just this one.

There's nothing irrational about a healthy suspicion of government. We can be suspicious of business also, but not in the same manner... business is just private people essentially begging me to use them, while government has the power to control virtually everything in my life by the barrel of a gun (semi-metaphorically).

Free people conducting free enterprise may not always be the prettiest thing, but it's almost always insignificant compared to what governments can do to man and society. Take off your Marxist-colored lenses and you'll discover that fact also.

Aren't you another one of the posters here who claim to be military intelligence?
How do sign your life over to your gov and then rationally post this stuff?

Are you pointing the gun at yourself and libel to hit a few innocents while your at it

 

DealMonkey

Lifer
Nov 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Wow, it's almost too easy to flip this 180-degreess politically and have it apply perfectly!

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Apparently to the conservative mindset, a lot. For them, government is a negative force that cynically manipulates people. Private business on the other hand is never cynical and never manipulates... they are the all-knowing all-caring experts that we must all follow lock-step.

There you go, fixed.

You manage to cling to one irrational fear (of gov't) while pointing out how everyone else is doing the same thing. No one ever said that corporate sponsorship was wrong in every single instance, just this one.

There's nothing irrational about a healthy suspicion of government. We can be suspicious of business also, but not in the same manner... business is just private people essentially begging me to use them, while government has the power to control virtually everything in my life by the barrel of a gun (semi-metaphorically).

Free people conducting free enterprise may not always be the prettiest thing, but it's almost always insignificant compared to what governments can do to man and society. Take off your Marxist-colored lenses and you'll discover that fact also.

So I'm a commie for suspecting Pizza Hut of having ulterior motives for their program? Wow, that's quite a leap! You want to color me as anti-business a little too badly me thinks. You're right though, government does have the ability to F things up on a grander scale, yet that doesn't excuse corporations from conducting themselves as good corporate citizens.

I admit, kids having a pizza once in a while is not the end of the world. I feel badly for devoting as much attention to this as I already have. Surely there are bigger issues out there to tackle.
 

cwjerome

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Sep 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Wow, it's almost too easy to flip this 180-degreess politically and have it apply perfectly!

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Apparently to the conservative mindset, a lot. For them, government is a negative force that cynically manipulates people. Private business on the other hand is never cynical and never manipulates... they are the all-knowing all-caring experts that we must all follow lock-step.

There you go, fixed.

You manage to cling to one irrational fear (of gov't) while pointing out how everyone else is doing the same thing. No one ever said that corporate sponsorship was wrong in every single instance, just this one.

There's nothing irrational about a healthy suspicion of government. We can be suspicious of business also, but not in the same manner... business is just private people essentially begging me to use them, while government has the power to control virtually everything in my life by the barrel of a gun (semi-metaphorically).

Free people conducting free enterprise may not always be the prettiest thing, but it's almost always insignificant compared to what governments can do to man and society. Take off your Marxist-colored lenses and you'll discover that fact also.

So I'm a commie for suspecting Pizza Hut of having ulterior motives for their program? Wow, that's quite a leap! You want to color me as anti-business a little too badly me thinks. You're right though, government does have the ability to F things up on a grander scale, yet that doesn't excuse corporations from conducting themselves as good corporate citizens.

I admit, kids having a pizza once in a while is not the end of the world. I feel badly for devoting as much attention to this as I already have. Surely there are bigger issues out there to tackle.

No you aren't a pinko-commie-dirtbag. Just another Lib, like many others, who do have Marxist-colored lenses... in that your fundamental outlook is tinged with the deranged economic attitude Marxism-Lite: A kindler gentler version of the capitalist fear and loathing, wrought with envy, cynicism, and exploitation-paranoia.

Sure business can be ok in your eyes... as long as the government's boot-heel is planted firmly on its neck, managed by "expert planners" in government who know what's best for everyone.
 

cwjerome

Diamond Member
Sep 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Wow, it's almost too easy to flip this 180-degreess politically and have it apply perfectly!

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Apparently to the conservative mindset, a lot. For them, government is a negative force that cynically manipulates people. Private business on the other hand is never cynical and never manipulates... they are the all-knowing all-caring experts that we must all follow lock-step.

There you go, fixed.

You manage to cling to one irrational fear (of gov't) while pointing out how everyone else is doing the same thing. No one ever said that corporate sponsorship was wrong in every single instance, just this one.

There's nothing irrational about a healthy suspicion of government. We can be suspicious of business also, but not in the same manner... business is just private people essentially begging me to use them, while government has the power to control virtually everything in my life by the barrel of a gun (semi-metaphorically).

Free people conducting free enterprise may not always be the prettiest thing, but it's almost always insignificant compared to what governments can do to man and society. Take off your Marxist-colored lenses and you'll discover that fact also.

Aren't you another one of the posters here who claim to be military intelligence?
How do sign your life over to your gov and then rationally post this stuff?

Are you pointing the gun at yourself and libel to hit a few innocents while your at it

Are you telling me that a person cannot hold a position within government, especially the military, and at the same time believe in small, limited government? You think a person cannot have a suspicion of government power and not be part of the government?

What, do you think I'm an anarchist? I fail to see your point.
 

BaliBabyDoc

Lifer
Jan 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Local Mueseum?
DVD Day?

I am sure fun filled idea's like that have been tried and failed in our public schools. Hence the reason why a private company is having such success getting kids to actually read.

As for the obesity epidemic in this country. I am sure a lot of the kids in our public schools eat the govt provided lunch instead of reading enough books to eat Pizza Hut every day. So I suggest if this is your main concern to get our public school away from the high fat, high sugar lunches they are providing our kids on a daily basis with little to no activity outside of moving between classes.

The problem is that US taxpayers are compelled to provide funding to the USDA which then compels schools to buy surplus subsidized refined grain, dairy, and meat from farmers.

And even though schools are certainly not the BEST when it comes to getting kids active . . . it appears the blame for the overall obesity problem lies squarely with the 'rents.

getting fat over the summer
 

Orignal Earl

Diamond Member
Oct 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: cwjerome

Are you telling me that a person cannot hold a position within government, especially the military, and at the same time believe in small, limited government? You think a person cannot have a suspicion of government power and not be part of the government?

What, do you think I'm an anarchist? I fail to see your point.

It is the *especially the military* part that is the kicker
Your not *part* of the gov, your the gov's peon



 

DealMonkey

Lifer
Nov 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Wow, it's almost too easy to flip this 180-degreess politically and have it apply perfectly!

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Apparently to the conservative mindset, a lot. For them, government is a negative force that cynically manipulates people. Private business on the other hand is never cynical and never manipulates... they are the all-knowing all-caring experts that we must all follow lock-step.

There you go, fixed.

You manage to cling to one irrational fear (of gov't) while pointing out how everyone else is doing the same thing. No one ever said that corporate sponsorship was wrong in every single instance, just this one.

There's nothing irrational about a healthy suspicion of government. We can be suspicious of business also, but not in the same manner... business is just private people essentially begging me to use them, while government has the power to control virtually everything in my life by the barrel of a gun (semi-metaphorically).

Free people conducting free enterprise may not always be the prettiest thing, but it's almost always insignificant compared to what governments can do to man and society. Take off your Marxist-colored lenses and you'll discover that fact also.

So I'm a commie for suspecting Pizza Hut of having ulterior motives for their program? Wow, that's quite a leap! You want to color me as anti-business a little too badly me thinks. You're right though, government does have the ability to F things up on a grander scale, yet that doesn't excuse corporations from conducting themselves as good corporate citizens.

I admit, kids having a pizza once in a while is not the end of the world. I feel badly for devoting as much attention to this as I already have. Surely there are bigger issues out there to tackle.

No you aren't a pinko-commie-dirtbag. Just another Lib, like many others, who do have Marxist-colored lenses... in that your fundamental outlook is tinged with the deranged economic attitude Marxism-Lite: A kindler gentler version of the capitalist fear and loathing, wrought with envy, cynicism, and exploitation-paranoia.

Sure business can be ok in your eyes... as long as the government's boot-heel is planted firmly on its neck, managed by "expert planners" in government who know what's best for everyone.

Stop exaggerating, for once. :roll:
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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I use pizza and McDonalds as a reward for my daughter all the time. IF she does her chores she gets a reward.

Is she fat? no. she does not sit around watching TV or such. she is playing. IF the weather is nice enough she is outside playing.