Oh I don't know, how about rewarding the kids with something that doesn't make them fat and beholden them to some corporation? Don't think for a moment that Pizza Hut is some benevolent organization just out to help kids. The PR from the program and the boosted revenue when the whole family comes in to claim their kid's personal pizza is all they care about.
She should turn her attention to what state run schools offer in the lunch room if she is really worried about nutrtion. But I have a feeling this is another big govt type attacking business.
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But those same idiots have no problem with the rectangle slab of dough, bland sauce and fake cheese that schools pass of as pizza for Friday's lunch.
My daughter has four or five of these certificates, I think we'll have pizza tonight.
You folks who railed that McDonald's should be sued and change their menu are now flying down the slippery slope you created.
My daughter has four or five of these certificates, I think we'll have pizza tonight.
You folks who railed that McDonald's should be sued and change their menu are now flying down the slippery slope you created.
Does anyone find it hypocritical that we have a bunch of people here whining about do-gooders when the intent of the Pizza Hut promotion is meant to, at least superficially, do-good?
Not really because the Pizza Hut promotion was voluntary, nobody forced the kids to read and then eat pizza. That is what most big govt do gooders would do if they were in charge of the program. And of course had the power of the state to enforce it.
Yeah, it's much more important to make them beholden to government.
Public-private partnerships and giving back to communities are just cynical attempts to increase the bottom line. If companies don't sacrifice out of pure altruism and lose money, then it's obviously a sham :roll:
The business of a business is to make money, otherwise there is no business. If there can be win-win situations where people benefit while a company gets name recognition or whatever, then all the better.
Who said anything about kids beholden to government?
Look, there are bound to be varying opinions on this topic. I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just offering a different perspective. But here's something to chew on (besides your fat-laden pizza, that is), at least government can claim to be looking out for people's best interests, whereas corporations can hardly make the same claim.
Corporations only have to satisfy their profit motives, the demands of their boards and shareholders, but nowhere in their charters will you find a desire to help the common man. Occasionally, you find a corporation that acts like a responsible corporate citizen, yet they are the exception to the rule and quite rare.
You clearly don't have any children and know even less about child development.
Sweets and other junk food are bad for children (and adults for that matter). What moron would give a child something 'bad' as a reward? The threshold for how often an adult should eat junk food is ZERO. A responsible parent teaches that lesson through WORDS and DEEDS. Let's check out some of the other 'bright ideas' reading programs:
1) No veggie week - Read two books a week and you can skip vegetables.
2) more TV - Sure, the average American kid is already watching 3x as much TV as they do homework but TV can be enjoyed in moderation. So if you read a book, you get an extra hour of TV a day so that your weekly total gets above 40.
3) promiscuous sex - Let's not leave out the teens! Read a book a week and the school system will give you a 30 minute pass to the promiscuous sex room. Read two books a week and condoms are optional.
According to Pizza Hut's own nutrition guide:
http://www.yum.com/nutrition/menu.asp?brandID_Abbr=1_PH
A single slice of cheese pan pizza has 20% of the recommended daily value of fat. Add Pepperoni and that rises to 22%. A pesonal pizza is probably equivalent to 4 slices of a medium pizza and therefore 80% - 88% of your recommended daily fat allowance and about 1000 calories.
Not exactly health food, no.
http://www.yum.com/nutrition/menu.asp?brandID_Abbr=1_PH
A single slice of cheese pan pizza has 20% of the recommended daily value of fat. Add Pepperoni and that rises to 22%. A pesonal pizza is probably equivalent to 4 slices of a medium pizza and therefore 80% - 88% of your recommended daily fat allowance and about 1000 calories.
Not exactly health food, no.
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then perhaps some of these do-gooder nanny-types should start up a petition to have the government draft a law banning all candy and pizza...? After all, these kids can't be safe with pizza hut poisoning their minds and bodies with 44% of their daily fat intake, and books!! Let's have Uncle Same REG-U-LATE!! HELLLZ YA!
Or we could sue...? there's always that swell option...
bah.. what crap. In 200 years this country is going to be inhabited entirely by whiny pu$$ies who can't think for themselves.
There is a personal pan option within that site.
A pepperoni personal pan is
640 calories
45% daily intake of fat.
56% daily intake of saturated fat
22% daily intake of carbs
64% daily intake of sodium
Obviously nobody is tell people or kids to eat these things on a daily basis nor eat multiple helpings. But a single helping once a month isnt going to kill you if you have a balanced diet.
Why not allow Phillip Morris to offer a cigarette to kids if they read? Why are cigarettes illegal for children? Why not offer Playboy to children if they read? Let's all be free for the sake of not being a "pussified" country. What are the benefits of allowing corporations to bribe children with addictive foods to get them to read minimally? Hell, they might as well offer Playboy to children, then they can read and get their fix. A little bit of porn never hurt anyone right? What is this pussification of America that I keep hearing about? I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary other than people being their typical whiny selves and then other people whining about the whiners. It's quite a beautiful cycle.
I want a study that proves Pizza Hut is addictive lmao.
Playboy is considered obscene, not in the same ball park as food. We reserve the right to view that material to adults.
Cigarettes as I am told by every lawyer and do gooder is addictive and causes cancer from direct use and secondary use. Again not in the same ball park as eating pizza after reading a book.
I'd say the benfits are the kids actuallly read. Clearly our public institutions are not upto even this most basic task.
Wow, venture into hyperbole much? Quite obviously, you're over-reacting to this whole thing. No one is telling these kids that they cannot eat pizza. Obviously they're free to eat whatever crap they want on their own time, however not "rewarding" kids for reading with a fat-laden pizza is not about restricting their choice, rather its an attempt to teach by example. Obesity and diabetes among school-age children is an epidemic in this country.
I can think of about a dozen rewards for reading that don't involve eating anything whatsoever. How about if the kids meet their reading goals, they get to go on a field trip to a local museum? Or how about allowing them a "DVD day" where the kids can choose an age-appropriate/school-appropriate movie to watch one day a month in class if they meet their goals?
Seems like the only whiny pussies are the ones in here bitching and moaning about a whole lot of nothing.
Local Mueseum?
DVD Day?
I am sure fun filled idea's like that have been tried and failed in our public schools. Hence the reason why a private company is having such success getting kids to actually read.
As for the obesity epidemic in this country. I am sure a lot of the kids in our public schools eat the govt provided lunch instead of reading enough books to eat Pizza Hut every day. So I suggest if this is your main concern to get our public school away from the high fat, high sugar lunches they are providing our kids on a daily basis with little to no activity outside of moving between classes.
DVD Day?
I am sure fun filled idea's like that have been tried and failed in our public schools. Hence the reason why a private company is having such success getting kids to actually read.
As for the obesity epidemic in this country. I am sure a lot of the kids in our public schools eat the govt provided lunch instead of reading enough books to eat Pizza Hut every day. So I suggest if this is your main concern to get our public school away from the high fat, high sugar lunches they are providing our kids on a daily basis with little to no activity outside of moving between classes.
Vic
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Which is worse? Feeding kids pizza or cutting PE classes and not letting kids run during recess?
This whole thread has the usual P&N bi-polar stupidity.
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When I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, school lunches considered ketchup to be a vegetable. Has that even changed? But woops, pay no attention to the hypocrisy behind the curtain!
This whole thread has the usual P&N bi-polar stupidity.
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When I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, school lunches considered ketchup to be a vegetable. Has that even changed? But woops, pay no attention to the hypocrisy behind the curtain!
You don't think fatty foods are addictive? Do we even need scientific proof that people typically are attracted to fatty, sodium filled foods than healthier foods? Why not offer vegetables for reading books and see how well that works.
Playboy is considered obscene by Americans while other countries do not have such conservative views to nudity. Adults have reserved the rights to view nude material to adults just like how adults are reserving the right to choose if corporations are allowed to bribe children with addictive, non-healthy foods (Pizza Hut pizza is particularly oily from the fact that it's a pan pizza).
You claim that smoking has negative side effects such as cancer but yet the leading cause of death are from heart disease which has a close association with diet. No one needs to remotely agree with me but in my viewpoint, if you're going to go and ban other items arbitrarily deemed inappropriate, then you've opened the gates to ban many things that will subsequently deemed inappropriate.
Originally posted by: Vic
Which is worse? Feeding kids pizza or cutting PE classes and not letting kids run during recess?
This whole thread has the usual P&N bi-polar stupidity.
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When I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, school lunches considered ketchup to be a vegetable. Has that even changed? But woops, pay no attention to the hypocrisy behind the curtain!
Are there any statistics out there showing that kids aren't allowed to run around during recess? The schools where I grew up and where I currently live have kids running around playing basketball, handball, tag, tetherball along with playing on the jungle gyms and other such typical playground activities.
I will say, though, that the food that's being offered is still generally not very adequate (some sort of junk entree with milk and a cup of fruit soaked in syrup). I don't think that the school's inadequacies in offering a balanced lunch for students should open up the door to offering even worse food for children.
A whole lot of nothing? You mean we're defending a reading programs against a bunch of food-nazis, and WE'RE the one bitching and moaning?? :roll: You never cease to amaze me with your spins. LOL, you say we're over-reacting and then warn us that obesity and diabetes is epidemic in our young... ban the evil pizza reward!
If Pizza Hut wants to do it, the school wants to do it, and the parents want to do it, them let them eat a freakin pizza every once in a while.
Um I guess your idea of addiction is vastly different than most of the world's. Addiction does not equal preference. Because people enjoy to eat food they can taste, doesnt mean they are addicted to it. You admit it yourself, put a plate of veggies down next to a burger. Lots of people will pick the burger, not because they are hooked on fat and require it because of some addiction. But because it has a more enjoyable taste.
Ok and?
I think you missed my sarcasm. But none the less currently we restrict the consumption to people considered adults. I honestly dont believe the tobacco companies are interested in serving children anyways, at least not legally. Because when the kid goes and sues them what defense will they have? They cant enter into a legal binding contract with a minor. It would be a hayday again for the trial lawyers of america.
Vic
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The point is that Pizza Hut is probably of a better nutritional value than what's on the school lunch menu. And PE classes were cut due to budget constraints, even though this year's budget is larger than last year's. Those evil corporations, it's all their fault that kids are so fat!! :|
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