The Mueller interview notes

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VRAMdemon said:
Meh..You guys can project "gaslighting" and other such nonsense all you want as to why people dare criticize Mueller. Some question what would have happened If someone would have done the things that they are supposed to do, to protect the rule of law. The whole point of having Mueller in that role was to root out the lies, and bring them to light before further crimes or injuries to justice. God forbid we should ever ask someone to rise above himself and his "training".

If Mueller thought Trump guilty of crimes. He could have and should have said so. He could have appeared at the meetings as a private citizen, and not one "constrained" by rules he is accepting to follow.

The ex FBI head is literally investigating the President of serious crimes, and he can't go to Congress and say "Hey, the President is guilty of this and that" when he finds out the President is guilty of this and that? And he cites a memorandum as his justification? If the argument is as to why Mueller pulled his punches is because he's blinded by the rules and procedures (willfully so?) to not see, or even comment on, the overall picture, then he, eventually, was useless except as a compiler of crimes.

IMO Mueller was derelict in not making it crystal clear that Trump should be impeached, and, the events after his testimony do more to corroborate the contention that he could've done more. It was literally what the country was waiting for, he didn't do it, and the President went insane with power the very next day. There comes a time in ones life when protecting and serving the United States means doing more than protecting and serving your institutional norms. His Congressional testimony was one of those times, and Mueller didn't meet it.

Actually, the bottom of page one of the report does conclude:

"Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

Do you guys actually believe the bolded? considering what we now know with the Biden/Ukraine situation

/Team Trump
And subsequent events since the Mueller testimony has shown us the Trump people actually have a deep aversion to foreign interference with our government, especially regarding elections. I'm glad that Mueller was able to see through the smoke to, what was it, "not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with..." any foreign government, or otherwise I would be worried about all this Ukraine mess! Now why doesn't Congress investigate Hunter Biden, now that Mueller effectively cleared the Trump team on page 1?
/Team Trump

That a NYC real estate huckster turned carnival pitchman who positioned himself as a master of the deal, who has had 3 decades of dealing, with Russia, a man without any government experience or knowledge, would not "conspire... or coordinate..with the Russians in its election interference activities" even though, as is noted in that very same sentence, "the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts" and the subsequent 400 pages actually proved that very thing page 1 denies?

I am talking about a man at the end of his career making an assertive statement as to whether the President is or is not a criminal, and frankly, as an American citizen, I am not OK that the man punted on that question.
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Or he's a man honor bound to hold to the terms he accepted when he took the job. He can't indict the Prez. He can't even say he would if he could. He did everything but, as it turns out. And then Barr took over.
 
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fskimospy said:
This is not as good an idea for Trump and Republicans as our good friend Lindsey thinks it is.
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Maybe he's trying to distance himself and claim he was an innocent victim of Dumpy's lies and deception (and not the enthusiastic and completely voluntary ass-licker he's been ever since Dumpy became the Repuggers' candidate back in summer 2016.)
 
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fskimospy said:
This is not as good an idea for Trump and Republicans as our good friend Lindsey thinks it is.
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It's like when Trump wanted Obama to testify before this same committee, and at least Lindsey had the sense to know that would be a very bad idea.
 
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[DHT]Osiris said:
My spidey senses tell me Graham/Republicans are going to try for a 'gotcha' to get some Trump approval bumps by having more 'Mueller hoax!' stuff hitting the news. I hope for a great Q&A and some more wonderful headlines, and ammunition for The Lincoln Project.
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I agree. If Mueller goes before that committee there is a 100% chance that every Republican that gets to speak is going to ask him some form of 'How long have you been hitting your wife' type of question just to get a misleading sound bite that can be endlessly repeated without context.

Mueller is a good enough lawyer to not fall for such tactics, but it won't matter Fox will just run with the story 'Congress questions if Mueller beats his wife', and of course any actually insightful and on point questions asked by Democrats will be played off as 'partisan hackery'.
 
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