the more i use vista, the more i get angry

[Red Squirrel]

The main reason so many people hated Vista is manufacturers were installing it on PCs that had no business running it. Vista is a resource HOG compared to XP. People took machines that met the minimum specs, put on Vista, and said it sucked because it was so slow.

My wife bought a laptop that had 512 megs of memory and a Celeron processor and it came with Vista. That thing sucked. Upgraded it to 2 gigs of memory and it worked much better. Upgraded it to Windows 7 and even better still.

Put Vista on a machine with enough power to run it properly and it works great. My C2D with 4 gigs of ram runs Vista 64 and I have no complaints at all.

That is so true, and in fact when XP came out they did the same. XP was a HUGE memory hog when 512MB was equivalent to 4GB today and they'd stick it on a p3 with 128MB of ram. Same with Vista, they go and stick it on a machine with only 1 or 2GB and a Celeron processor. Yeah it will be bloody slow. It's even bloody slow on my quad core with 8GB of ram. give hardware 5 years then a machine will be capable of running Vista just as well as it XP runs now. But 7 seems to have improved performance wise so there's no reason to run vista anyway.

 

[freegeeks]

got a mac and never looked back. Sometimes I have to fix issues on my parents Wintendo machine running Vista and it always reminds me why i went Apple.

 

[lokiju]

So this thread is now about people who get nice and comfy with what they're used to and therefore hate anything new, right?

 

[Adrenaline]

The main reason so many people hated Vista is manufacturers were installing it on PCs that had no business running it. Vista is a resource HOG compared to XP. People took machines that met the minimum specs, put on Vista, and said it sucked because it was so slow.

My wife bought a laptop that had 512 megs of memory and a Celeron processor and it came with Vista. That thing sucked. Upgraded it to 2 gigs of memory and it worked much better. Upgraded it to Windows 7 and even better still.

Put Vista on a machine with enough power to run it properly and it works great. My C2D with 4 gigs of ram runs Vista 64 and I have no complaints at all.

My wife's laptop was the same way. We did not upgrade the RAM in it though. I wiped the HDD and put XP on it. I have never had a single issue with XP and I have used it sine it was released.

98 SE was garbage, my computer would not even shut down. It would just hang at a blinking cursor. ME fixed that issue but it wasn't all that great either. XP solved everything.

 

[AMCRambler]

Try setting up a shared folder or print sharing on a lan and then come back and tell us what you think.

 

[AMCRambler]

Oh yeah and another reason Vista sucks. You buy a new pc with Vista loaded on it and it would run slow. Out of the box, a brand new laptop. Running like crap. You'll say that's not MS's fault, they didn't put in enough ram. I throw in 2gigs turn off all the eye candy and it's still slow. Eff that, Vista sucks. I back leveled it to XP.

 

[jlee]

Try setting up a shared folder or print sharing on a lan and then come back and tell us what you think.

I did that with 7 and it was unbelievably easy. I set my printer as shared, went to my roommate's computer - MS Word -> File -> Print, and bingo..my printer was already set up. No configuration required at all (other than joining the network homegroup, which had already been done). I haven't tried much of any networking stuff with Vista, though.

 

[her209]

Oh yeah and another reason Vista sucks. You buy a new pc with Vista loaded on it and it would run slow. Out of the box, a brand new laptop. Running like crap. You'll say that's not MS's fault, they didn't put in enough ram. I throw in 2gigs turn off all the eye candy and it's still slow. Eff that, Vista sucks. I back leveled it to XP.

Probably due to the disk thrashing by Superfetch.

 

[evident]

hate vista, hate windows 7. I have a feeling it's the end of the line for me as I'll just have to transition to Linux I mean after all it's not like there are any good games being made anymore.. Since we're on the subject, I still hate XP and find that Windows 2000 was the best operating system Microsoft has made.

let me guess , you dont like airbags either

 

[OutHouse]

I agree, I've had issues with printer sharing (doesn't work). And all of the file sharing options seem excessive.

i connect my vista box to a shared printer and everytime i reboot i have to go through the printer setup to get the connection back even though the printer is still installed. its a known issue and annoying.

 

[Evadman]

You could probably win some kind of award if you can get a Windows 98 computer to run for more than 5 hours without rebooting.

I had a windows ME machine that was acting as an email server with an uptime of more than 6 month at one point. I finally had to turn it off because I had to physicly move it. it worked fine.

that being said, I have had some annoying issues with Vista. file copies take too long, expecially over network. The process appears to be checking everything at the beginning instead of just letting the damn thing run. I use xcopy or robocopy to move files from the command line because using explorer takes hundreds, if not thousands, of times longer.

Vista is a resource hog. I have the basic version isntalled (no eye candy or junk like that) with 4 GB of ram and the computer still runs slow. It is annoying as hell. when I check the perf monitor, I can't find anything slowing down the machine, it seems like the machine just doesn't want to run at full speed using all resources available. If I install XP all of a sudden the speed problems go away.

Printing is a PITA, I just gave up and use my XP netbook to print anything if I need to.

Bunch of other crap I don't feel like going into as well. But I still run vista for now as I get lots of people calling me asking for help. I can't help them if I don't use it, and am familiar with it's flaws. I have other machines running Ubuntu and XP when I need to accomplish something quickly. i also needed to keep vista on my video box because the remote control won't work with XP as the driver doesn't exist.

Once windows 7 becomes more main steam, I will pick it up instead of vista. Right now, no one is asking for assistance with 7.

 

[ElFenix]

it seems to take forever to delete a file using the delete key.

also takes forever to copy sometimes.

 

[QueBert]

Wait, you're trying to do an upgrade install? Always do a clean install with moving to a new OS. Back up data, wipe drive, install, best and safest way to do it.

No, I have a Windows 7 install that stopped working and an upgrade install is the only way to fix it. MS renamed the "repair install" to "upgrade install" I'm simply trying to get my Windows 7 to work again, and if it crashed due to a bad driver there's no fucking way I should have to do a clean install to fix it.

Fuck Windows 7, I'll adjust to no games in Ubuntu and live without bullshit like this.

 

[her209]

that being said, I have had some annoying issues with Vista. file copies take too long, expecially over network. The process appears to be checking everything at the beginning instead of just letting the damn thing run. I use xcopy or robocopy to move files from the command line because using explorer takes hundreds, if not thousands, of times longer.

Yup, its ridiculous.

 

[jlee]

No, I have a Windows 7 install that stopped working and an upgrade install is the only way to fix it. MS renamed the "repair install" to "upgrade install" I'm simply trying to get my Windows 7 to work again, and if it crashed due to a bad driver there's no fucking way I should have to do a clean install to fix it.

Fuck Windows 7, I'll adjust to no games in Ubuntu and live without bullshit like this.

Are you sure you don't have a hardware problem?

 

[AMCRambler]

i connect my vista box to a shared printer and everytime i reboot i have to go through the printer setup to get the connection back even though the printer is still installed. its a known issue and annoying.

It wasn't even that. There was some kind of frigged up setting for the Vista pc sharing the printer. I had to set the network connection from the "private" setting to the public setting for any other computers to see the shared devices. And the screen to change that setting is ridiculous difficult to find. It's not like I'll just right click on the network and go to properties. Nope, they buried that bastard. Two hours farting around with it and reading help files till I found the answer. We might as well just go back to Windows 98 where you had to install file and print sharing as a component.

 

[Gibson486]

windows 7 doesn't like my canon MF4270 printer. It cannot find it during installation. It asks for the IP, but when you give it the IP, it says it is not there.

 

[QueBert]

Are you sure you don't have a hardware problem?

No problems in Ubuntu, and I've ran at least 2 dozen different diagnostic programs. For everything from memory to HD to video to CPU and every once had said my system's fine. As somebody in this thread mentioned to me, different OS's handle hardware differently so maybe Windows is detecting something that nothing else is. This is obviously the case here, but if Windows is the only thing that's detecting the problem, I consider Windows to be the problem. I can't even find 1 single piece of software outside of Windows that's crapping out.

And if it's a driver issue, I laugh at the irony that a LINUX based OS is giving me no driver problems when an OS from the biggest company in the world can't seem to function properly on my box. Which is full of very standard hardware from known manufacturers.

 

[jlee]

That's weird. Windows 7 was by far the smoothest OS install I have ever had. My roommate was a Mac guy and recently built his first PC (with 7) and he was shocked at how everything just worked.

Maybe you have bad luck...

 

[evident]

it seems to take forever to delete a file using the delete key.

also takes forever to copy sometimes.

okay. this is the first valid point about vista being crap. but i think it has something to do with checking permissions.

 

[MrPickins]

It's funny that you say that because I'm probably one of the few who actually remembers the launch of XP

This made me LOL.

Vista is pretty much vaporware now that 7 is out. There's no reason to be using it. Either stick to XP, or go to 7.

I do not think that means what you think it means.

 

[Snapster]

Until SP1 with Vista you either got a really awful experience or a good experience (depending on hardware/software) and very little had the middle ground. By that point Vista picked up too much bad red and everyone got on the slagging bandwagon.

The extra layer of security on top of registry/file access did make things slower than xp in terms of deleting and moving files, although W7 has clawed some of that speed back (not all).

 

[Gothgar]

Just like with XP, it took MS two service packs to turn Vista into a decent OS. I don't understand why everyone seems to forget how bad XP was at first.

pretty much this... but copy pasta any of their OS' into XP's place.

 

[iversonyin]

You are just talking about the installing aspect of the OS. What about the actual usage?

 

[evident]

You are just talking about the installing aspect of the OS. What about the actual usage?

i found the transition from xp to vista to be pretty painless. of course with a new interface you're gonna have to get used to some changes. but it's nothing close to as bad as people were clamoring on about. i did have a printer issue, but my printer sucked ass anyways and would eat up a whole cartridge of ink even if i didn't print jack on it.