The more desperate the conservative propaganda machine gets, the more they lash out.

[Lezunto]

Those who think AOC is so perfect for national leadership should run her for the White House. Or you can trot out Bernie again

She claims she is a Democratic Socialist. There already is a political party with that name. How come AOC dosen't want to be part of it?

Because her aim and that of many Bernie adherents was always to destroy the Dem Party.

I'll just wait for the eventual eruption of vicious epithets. Leftist Unity is a joke.

 

[Amused]

Those who think AOC is so perfect for national leadership should run her for the White House. Or you can trot out Bernie again

She claims she is a Democratic Socialist. There already is a political party with that name. How come AOC dosen't want to be part of it?

Because her aim and that of many Bernie adherents was always to destroy the Dem Party.

I'll just wait for the eventual eruption of vicious epithets. Leftist Unity is a joke.

And you're a part of that joke. The hilarity is you're currently doing that very thing. You're the joke.

And you're using right-wing agit prop to do it., Mindlessly, like a useful idiot.

AOC is not calling for nationalizing the means of production. Full stop.

 

[fskimospy]

Those who think AOC is so perfect for national leadership should run her for the White House. Or you can trot out Bernie again

She claims she is a Democratic Socialist. There already is a political party with that name. How come AOC dosen't want to be part of it?

Because her aim and that of many Bernie adherents was always to destroy the Dem Party.

I'll just wait for the eventual eruption of vicious epithets. Leftist Unity is a joke.

This is what she's referring to.

Social democracy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As Amused said socialism is community ownership of the means of production. It's true that social democracy/democratic socialism has the word in it, but that's like saying the Nazis were socialist because they were 'national socialists' or that North Korea is democratic because it has it in the name.

 

[HomerJS]

Those who think AOC is so perfect for national leadership should run her for the White House. Or you can trot out Bernie again

She claims she is a Democratic Socialist. There already is a political party with that name. How come AOC dosen't want to be part of it?

Because her aim and that of many Bernie adherents was always to destroy the Dem Party.

I'll just wait for the eventual eruption of vicious epithets. Leftist Unity is a joke.

If I'm not mistaken no one here said AOC would make a good candidate for the White House.

Stop with the strawmen

 

[Lezunto]

Just run your candidates. We'll see how many votes you get.

Now, I'm beginning to understand why so many otherwise intelligent Blacks have given up on the Left and opted to support the GOP.

Like AOC does, you guys seem to keenly dislike any Black Democrat who eschews violence. I'm not a bomb thrower. I recall when AOC's Justice Democrats targeted nothing but moderate elected Black Dems in 2016.

We need to add to our ranks. Not push voters away with reckless talk.

But by all means, plan a takeover of "the means of production." I hope to see a news clip.

 

[fskimospy]

Just run your candidates. We'll see how many votes you get.

Now, I'm beginning to understand why so many otherwise intelligent Blacks have given up on the Left and opted to support the GOP.

Like AOC does, you guys seem to keenly dislike any Black Democrat who eschews violence. I'm not a bomb thrower. I recall when AOC's Justice Democrats targeted nothing but moderate elected Black Dems in 2016.

We need to add to our ranks. Not push voters away with reckless talk.

But by all means, plan a takeover of "the means of production." I hope to see a news clip.

I don't really understand what you are getting at here. AOC represents the ideology of her constituents well - that's how the system works. She's not running for national office, she wouldn't get far in a democratic primary if she did, and she supports the party agenda almost entirely.

What's weird is how much ink gets spilled over this junior congresswoman, I assume primarily because she's hot. She has almost no power!

 

[brycejones]

Not push voters away with reckless talk.

But by all means, plan a takeover of "the means of production." I hope to see a news clip.

Surely you can source some of this. Also this country has massive structural problems that are only getting worse. Someone needs to address that shit head on. Sounds like that makes you uncomfortable for some reason.

Because this shit is just going to keep getting worse:

How two Texas megadonors have turbocharged the state's far-right shift

Two Texas billionaires have funneled money to conservative candidates and helped reshape the state's Republican party in their worldview.

www.cnn.com

FYI I'm from Kansas and the Koch's fucked that state up one side and down the other.

 

[coldmeat]

The only thing I don't like about her is how she pushes the "Biden needs to cancel all student debt or he's a failure" angle. Does she really not see how that doesn't help or how it would be a huge disaster?

 

[Amused]

Just run your candidates. We'll see how many votes you get.

Now, I'm beginning to understand why so many otherwise intelligent Blacks have given up on the Left and opted to support the GOP.

Like AOC does, you guys seem to keenly dislike any Black Democrat who eschews violence. I'm not a bomb thrower. I recall when AOC's Justice Democrats targeted nothing but moderate elected Black Dems in 2016.

We need to add to our ranks. Not push voters away with reckless talk.

But by all means, plan a takeover of "the means of production." I hope to see a news clip.

Nothing in this post has any connection to reality at all. Seriously. And after being proven that AOC doesn't advocate the nationalization of means of production you STILL claim it here.

You seem to a professional strawman fighter. And the strawmen you're attacking are unironically GQP agit-prop created strawmen.

If you're this deep into GQP agit-prop I seriously question your claim of being a democrat.

 

[nickqt]

Just run your candidates. We'll see how many votes you get.

Now, I'm beginning to understand why so many otherwise intelligent Blacks have given up on the Left and opted to support the GOP.

Like AOC does, you guys seem to keenly dislike any Black Democrat who eschews violence. I'm not a bomb thrower. I recall when AOC's Justice Democrats targeted nothing but moderate elected Black Dems in 2016.

We need to add to our ranks. Not push voters away with reckless talk.

But by all means, plan a takeover of "the means of production." I hope to see a news clip.

Show us on the Electoral College map where AOC hurt you.

 

[HomerJS]

Just run your candidates. We'll see how many votes you get.

Now, I'm beginning to understand why so many otherwise intelligent Blacks have given up on the Left and opted to support the GOP.

Like AOC does, you guys seem to keenly dislike any Black Democrat who eschews violence. I'm not a bomb thrower. I recall when AOC's Justice Democrats targeted nothing but moderate elected Black Dems in 2016.

We need to add to our ranks. Not push voters away with reckless talk.

But by all means, plan a takeover of "the means of production." I hope to see a news clip.

I don't understand black people supporting a party the is either openly racist, condones it, or is silence about it in their midst. Why would you support a party that actively hates you?

 

[Amused]

I don't understand black people supporting a party the is either openly racist, condones it, or is silence about it in their midst. Why would you support a party that actively hates you?

Yes, the myth of the huge numbers of blacks becoming GOP. (Slugs for Salt!)

Religious Landscape Study (RLS) | Pew Research Center

The Religious Landscape Study is a comprehensive survey of more than 35,000 Americans’ religious identities, beliefs and practices that’s been conducted in 2007, 2014 and 2023-24. Pew Research Center.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Lezunto]

I am a Democrat.

I do not support any other party and I despise Trump. In fact, the only Republican I have ever voted for was the late Sen. Jacob Javits of New York. Javits was a Liberal Republican and a dependable vote in favor of social programs.

 

[Jaskalas]

I am a Democrat.

Be that as it may, some of these issues you raise, appear the same as if they had originated from Tucker Carlson's mouth.
I dare say I remember some of them as my local Trumpers obsess over Fox and the propaganda spewed forth.
Such concern over AOC and "Blacks abandoning Democrats" is much like it.

Though I suppose if one supped from social media, it could originate from Fox News without the victim knowing it.
From what I gather in this topic, someone or something you trust is actually just a poison.

 

[Lezunto]

I repeat, RUN your Socialist candidates. I do not try to re-write history to match my politics. But a whole lot of you just tried to do that.

And I never cared for AOC. She is not a Democrat, has a history of attacking elected Black male moderates and has gone after NYC Mayor Eric Adams. Just what part of Unity don't you guys get?

That's right. I get it. Progressives and Socialists hate the Democratic Party. But you're enamored by your media hound AOC. I'm not. Republicans appreciate you for aiding their Cause.

 

[Jaskalas]

I repeat, RUN your Socialist candidates.
...
And I never cared for AOC. She is not a Democrat

That word was already addressed in this topic.
Republican's favorite attack is to use that label.
Even though their use of it has zero relation to the actual definition.

Pray tell, what policy issue has you riled up with AOC?
Or did you already hint at one...

has a history of attacking elected Black male moderates and has gone after NYC Mayor Eric Adams

Why do you care about NYC Mayor Eric Adams?
Is there some substantive issue with AOC and him?

 

[Lezunto]

I don't watch Fox News.

One of the reasons a lot of older Blacks won't support Progressives and Socialists is because of your disdain for us. You love insulting us because we refuse to agree with you. You do it all the time.

Now, I am fairly certain some folks will try to position the following news stories as good news for Socialists. They are not. They are not good news for anyone on the Left.

It's quite sad. Black people expect Hate and Racism from some on the Right. But to experience something similar from folks who claim their policies will improve all lives is just plain disturbing.

A Record Number of Black Republicans Are Running, Revolutionizing the GOP

A slow, much-needed change is in the works. A record number of Black Republicans are running—and they're revolutionizing the party of Lincoln.

www.newsweek.com

Trump did make small gains with Black voters. Here’s why.

With disinformation and economic promises, Trump lobbied hard for the Black vote in the final days of the campaign.

www.vox.com

 

[Vic]

Socialism is the boogeyman word right-wingers use when they really mean racial equality. That's why they never use the word according to its actual definition of state ownership of industry, or even just the loose definition of excess govt spending.
Meanwhile, many prominent Republicans are openly national socialists who demand that buckets of govt money and infinite govt power go to the military and the police, but somehow that's not socialism because... well, I'm sure we all know why..

 

[Vic]

Just run your candidates. We'll see how many votes you get.

Now, I'm beginning to understand why so many otherwise intelligent Blacks have given up on the Left and opted to support the GOP.

Like AOC does, you guys seem to keenly dislike any Black Democrat who eschews violence. I'm not a bomb thrower. I recall when AOC's Justice Democrats targeted nothing but moderate elected Black Dems in 2016.

We need to add to our ranks. Not push voters away with reckless talk.

But by all means, plan a takeover of "the means of production." I hope to see a news clip.

You mean like Herschel Walker?

You're such an obvious troll.

Yaknow, I used to be much more conservative but then I realized that my conscience just couldn't abide with the constant lying. Apparently yours is not so encumbered.

 

[Vic]

The only thing I don't like about her is how she pushes the "Biden needs to cancel all student debt or he's a failure" angle. Does she really not see how that doesn't help or how it would be a huge disaster?

Fun fact, we could have paid off every student loan 10 times over with what we paid to fight pointless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But isn't it weird how one is "socialism" and the other isn't?
Meanwhile, who really cares about AOC when the GOP has outspoken nazis like Boebert and MTG? Boebert thinks the Establishment clause is "junk" and MTG openly espouses white Christian nationalism (aka nazism). Or that the GOP is going to put party over Constitution and primary Cheney?
But AOC, right? No. Leftist socialism is the very least of America's worries right now.

 

[Jaskalas]

Yaknow, I used to much more conservative but then I realized that my conscience couldn't abide with the constant lying

On various subjects of importance, Republicans offered nothing of substance.
That's before they delved into Trumpism.
After that....

 

[Jaskalas]

Now, I am fairly certain some folks will try to position the following news stories as good news for Socialists. They are not. They are not good news for anyone on the Left.

Your Vox article claims thus:

Trump’s pitch to Black voters was largely about financial security and prosperity​

​

Taking credit for Obama's economy.

Black Trump supporters “like how he’s improved employment ...​

Pretending we should care about the 1% who may find paying taxes inconvenient.

Rapper 50 Cent, who has vacillated in his support of Trump, noted he was a fan of the president’s tax policies, criticizing Biden’s tax plan — which would raise taxes on those making more than $400,000 per year — and writing on Instagram, “Yeah, i don’t want to be 20cent.”​

You offered us Republican propaganda, pure and simple. The only value it can serve you is as a phantom for those who do not see it lacks substance. The very basis of it is to give Republican's credit for the economy we had exiting the 2008 crisis. It finally matured by around 2012-2013 and started to take off, but was marred by the uncertainty of our 2016 election. After that it continued its upwards trajectory. That started under Obama.

If you were a Democrat, you would have known all of this.
That you presented it, suggests you didn't even try. Destroying it was child's play.

 

[Lezunto]

Ooomph! Another childish taunt. It stings, my son. Oh, it stings.

Most trolls spout unintelligible nonsense. I've never been accused of that.

I will never support Socialism and your responses to valid criticism are comical. Can you grow the f--k up for five minutes?

Or am I going to be treated to more endless rants and illogical B.S. about how Adolf Hitler was executed for his failed coup? He wasn't. And Trump won't be executed either.

Now, I may be wrong, but I don't recall any large scale political movement coming to power in the U.S. in the last 50 years where most of the folks involved employed really goofy insults as their main talking points.

You see, when Black people were trying to win our Civil Rights in the 50's and 60's and add to our support, we didn't call those we hoped would side with us awful names. Even if they did not agree with us. We tried to be patient and explain matters ... while ducking bricks. But ... most know this or should.

Sometimes, people see your suffering and try to alleviate it. Others jump for joy. Which one are you?

 

[Jaskalas]

I am still trying, and failing, to imagine a person voting Democrat... who would give Trump credit for an economy that swung up YEARS before Trump took office.
We've never heard the end of it from Fox News and anyone who parrots their propaganda....
But what reason would anyone who believed them.... have to ever vote Democrat?

A true mystery

Much like someone who swings around the word socialist. If we think people should have a roof overhead and a warm meal. Heaven forbid that sin, I guess.

 

[IronWing]

Newest fascist troll is same as oldest fascist troll.