The more desperate the conservative propaganda machine gets, the more they lash out.

[nOOky]

Biden was in the right place at the right time. Mostly we just wanted someone that could beat Trump, and return the country to some sort of "normalcy", if that was even possible. Many of the issues facing Biden today are completely out of his control, and any reasonable person would realize that. However, I and many people I know like me do not like Biden's attitude of throwing money at everything. I consider myself fiscally conservative, but socially liberal. I do not want tax cuts for the rich, I want to tax the rich etc.

I don't think Biden should run again, mostly because of his age. Trump it too old also, who the hell wants geriatric old men running the country? I want a younger, more vigorous president that has some fire in his belly. I want a moderate Democrat that focuses on the economy and represents independents. Instead we'll probably get some idiot like DeSantis for our next president.

 

[fskimospy]

Biden was in the right place at the right time. Mostly we just wanted someone that could beat Trump, and return the country to some sort of "normalcy", if that was even possible. Many of the issues facing Biden today are completely out of his control, and any reasonable person would realize that. However, I and many people I know like me do not like Biden's attitude of throwing money at everything. I consider myself fiscally conservative, but socially liberal. I do not want tax cuts for the rich, I want to tax the rich etc.

I don't think Biden should run again, mostly because of his age. Trump it too old also, who the hell wants geriatric old men running the country? I want a younger, more vigorous president that has some fire in his belly. I want a moderate Democrat that focuses on the economy and represents independents. Instead we'll probably get some idiot like DeSantis for our next president.

What should Biden be doing for the economy that he isn’t?

 

[Amused]

What should Biden be doing for the economy that he isn’t?

I keep asking this.

All indicators show the US has recovered the fastest and strongest in the world, which is why the US dollar is at an all time high right now.

In a world gone to shit, the US has performed best. Better than expected, actually.

 

[fskimospy]

I keep asking this.

All indicators show the US has recovered the fastest and strongest in the world, which is why the US dollar is at an all time high right now.

In a world gone to shit, the US has performed best. Better than expected, actually.

I think there's an argument that the ARP should have focused on long term programs instead of short term spending which would have resulted in lower inflation and better long term outcomes but what his current policy priorities are great - essentially increasing America's energy supply and making it resistant to future Russian fuckery along with paying for it by taxing the rich and letting Medicare negotiate drug prices which is disinflationary.

 

[Lezunto]

Vic,

I am well aware of what went on during Jan. 6th. Nothing we can do about that now except to round up the law breakers and killers and punish them. Fulminating about this will not get us anywhere except at each others' throats.

We have two years to get behind a viable candidate and support that person. The last thing we need to do is divide our strength and passion which is what has taken place since 2016.

Some still refuse to unify. So, I ignore them.

I don't see much movement towards Unity. So, for the third party candidate and anarchy lovers, this continues to be their moment. They can protest vote us right into oblivion.

 

[Amused]

I think there's an argument that the ARP should have focused on long term programs instead of short term spending which would have resulted in lower inflation and better long term outcomes but what his current policy priorities are great - essentially increasing America's energy supply and making it resistant to future Russian fuckery along with paying for it by taxing the rich and letting Medicare negotiate drug prices which is disinflationary.

Yes, it would have been nice to get more done. But having an obstructionist congress with not nearly enough of a majority in place hampers ANY real progress.

Overall, the US has lower inflation rates and lower energy increases than most of the first world.

I think the current admin has done an outstanding job.

Irony: The right-wing echo chambers preach the near constant chicken little mantra of "US currency is about to fail."
(They do this to undermine faith in the system and to pump precious metals because metal brokerages are their main advertisers and are a wonderful scam that deals in exactly this fear)

Watching the exact opposite happen has been wonderful schadenfreude.

Anytime a right-winger tries to bash the current admin, show them the strength of the US dollar today and how the US is outperforming nearly every other country in limiting inflation and energy prices and watch them stutter.

 

[nOOky]

What should Biden be doing for the economy that he isn’t?

What does that question even have to do with anything I wrote? Did I somehow question his handling of the economy that I am not aware of?

 

[fskimospy]

What does that question even have to do with anything I wrote? Did I somehow question his handling of the economy that I am not aware of?

Well you said you wanted someone who would focus on the economy, which implied to me that was something you felt Biden was not doing a good job of. If that's wrong then never mind!

 

[ivwshane]

This. He is not.
He has failed to deliver on key priorities, he's gotten distracted by side issues, and things went to hell on his watch and he's been slow to react.
Inflation, gas prices, bear market not his fault, but he's doing little to ease fears, meanwhile he's been a gaffe machine.

But switching has always been a cluster F, and there is no good candidate to replace him.

Ds are a disaster policy wise and with their bench of talent, only saving grace is that Republicans want criminals that will the democracy, so they have a chance.

You know how I know you are uninformed?

 

[eelw]

You know how I know you are uninformed?

But sadly large portion on the population think like this.

 

[nOOky]

Well you said you wanted someone who would focus on the economy, which implied to me that was something you felt Biden was not doing a good job of. If that's wrong then never mind!

Just poor wording on my part. I want every president to focus on creating an environment in which hard working people can make something of themselves, not enable the wage disparity to continue to increase and the working poor continue to get screwed.

So any Democrat over a Republican.

 

[nakedfrog]

So... yes he is.
But he's still not as bad as Trump. Failing to meet that hurdle is one heck of a low bar. It could be weekend at bernies and it would still be better than what we had in office.
The challenge rises if someone else takes the Republican nomination. Desantis, anyone?

To me... my mind is still made up. Republicans endorsed Trump. They stuck to him. They endorsed his impeachable actions. They tried damn hard to re-elect him. Policy aside, this is unforgivable. Then if we forget all that and vote just on policy... Republicans offer nothing of substantive value. While I have bones to pick with Democrats, some agreement is still manageable compared to zero agreement. Package it all together and the existential threat that is the Republican Party has no chance in hell of ever being less awful.

Democrats can parade a has-been skeleton around DC, and it will still be more worthy of holding office. Most anything would be.

I don't think he's awful. I've made no secret that he wasn't my first, or second, or third, etc choice for the D nomination, but I think all considered, he's "okay".

 

[IronWing]

Vic,

I am well aware of what went on during Jan. 6th. Nothing we can do about that now except to round up the law breakers and killers and punish them. Fulminating about this will not get us anywhere except at each others' throats.

We have two years to get behind a viable candidate and support that person. The last thing we need to do is divide our strength and passion which is what has taken place since 2016.

Some still refuse to unify. So, I ignore them.

I don't see much movement towards Unity. So, for the third party candidate and anarchy lovers, this continues to be their moment. They can protest vote us right into oblivion.

We can get to unity after we hang the fascist traitors. As long as these folks wield power, there can be no compromise.

 

[HomerJS]

Rubio lashing out. They know they are in trouble with this shit because it is real. Not like their made up CRT bullshit.
I think most married people would be more upset about their union being dissolved by SCOTUS then gas prices. I bet Rubio hasn't even talked to his gay constituents.
Marco Rubio says he knows what’s upsetting the gays, and it’s not marriage rights (msn.com)

 

[Bitek]

You know how I know you are uninformed?

Show me the climate bill or major BBB initiatives he's passed. All these deals the old master of the Senate was supposed to cut.

He got the bipartisan bill, driven by the Senate, but his bigger bill has been the football he's let Manchin pull away time over time.

His hat in his sad hands trip to Saudi Arabia to ask for help on oil and gas prices, meanwhile he made big promises to stop fracking on federal land. Embarrassing in era of $5 gas prices that hit everyone's wallet.

He did well on vaccines, but was too slow to undue pandemic restrictions, and those have come due to losing in court. More weakness and slowness.

Here's a promise tracker. Lots "in the works" (ie not dead yet) little in the win column.

You may think he's doing a bang up job, but his terrible polling would put you into a tiny minority.

 

[fskimospy]

Show me the climate bill or major BBB initiatives he's passed. All these deals the old master of the Senate was supposed to cut.

He got the bipartisan bill, driven by the Senate, but his bigger bill has been the football he's let Manchin pull away time over time.

His hat in his sad hands trip to Saudi Arabia to ask for help on oil and gas prices, meanwhile he made big promises to stop fracking on federal land. Embarrassing in era of $5 gas prices that hit everyone's wallet.

He did well on vaccines, but was too slow to undue pandemic restrictions, and those have come due to losing in court. More weakness and slowness.

Here's a promise tracker. Lots "in the works" (ie not dead yet) little in the win column.

You may think he's doing a bang up job, but his terrible polling would put you into a tiny minority.

What would you have him do differently? Be specific, nothing like 'just do it better'.

 

[dank69]

Show me the climate bill or major BBB initiatives he's passed. All these deals the old master of the Senate was supposed to cut.

He got the bipartisan bill, driven by the Senate, but his bigger bill has been the football he's let Manchin pull away time over time.

His hat in his sad hands trip to Saudi Arabia to ask for help on oil and gas prices, meanwhile he made big promises to stop fracking on federal land. Embarrassing in era of $5 gas prices that hit everyone's wallet.

He did well on vaccines, but was too slow to undue pandemic restrictions, and those have come due to losing in court. More weakness and slowness.

Here's a promise tracker. Lots "in the works" (ie not dead yet) little in the win column.

You may think he's doing a bang up job, but his terrible polling would put you into a tiny minority.

I don't know about you, but I totally respect what Americans think about politicians and use that valuable information to decide which politicians are good or bad or successful/not successful.

 

[hal2kilo]

Rubio lashing out. They know they are in trouble with this shit because it is real. Not like their made up CRT bullshit.
I think most married people would be more upset about their union being dissolved by SCOTUS then gas prices. I bet Rubio hasn't even talked to his gay constituents.
Marco Rubio says he knows what’s upsetting the gays, and it’s not marriage rights (msn.com)

Hello Coconut Grove!

 

[nakedfrog]

Rubio lashing out. They know they are in trouble with this shit because it is real. Not like their made up CRT bullshit.
I think most married people would be more upset about their union being dissolved by SCOTUS then gas prices. I bet Rubio hasn't even talked to his gay constituents.
Marco Rubio says he knows what’s upsetting the gays, and it’s not marriage rights (msn.com)

Yeah... the gay people I know are aware that there's no connection between gas prices and codifying gay marriage (which is only kinda what this bill does anyway), that Republicans aren't actually going to do a fucking thing about gas prices beyond using them as a talking point, and that Rubio is a gutless fuckface.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I don't think Biden should run again, mostly because of his age. Trump it too old also, who the hell wants geriatric old men running the country?

Boomers who vote at much higher rates than younger people.

 

[Lezunto]

IronWing,

I am not in favor of hanging anybody. But I know full well so many are.

They cannot visualize peace. These are so pent up with rage that all they want to do is lash out and burn their enemies to death.

I just want them defeated and out of power.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

IronWing,

I am not in favor of hanging anybody. But I know full well so many are.

They cannot visualize peace. These are so pent up with rage that all they want to do is lash out and burn their enemies to death.

I just want them defeated and out of power.

Usually when you lead a failed coup you get executed for it. Don't see why this time should have been any different.

 

[Lezunto]

There's nothing stopping the outrageously angry from following through on their agenda.

By all means, grab the torches and pitchforks.

And not everybody is executed for taking part in a failed coup. Hitler and his minions weren't.

I wish Trump was in jail, too. But I'll have to wait until this judicial process is completed. I'm surprised it's taking so long. Still, I'm not in a hurry to foment violence.

 

[Jaskalas]

What should Biden be doing for the economy that he isn’t?

We (almost) all agree that these things are out of the President's hands.
It's rather beside the point as to whether he should be the nominee in 2024.
Even if it is not fair, the job is to be the one holding the ball. Even if the ball stinks and takes you down with it.

 

[ivwshane]

There's nothing stopping the outrageously angry from following through on their agenda.

By all means, grab the torches and pitchforks.

And not everybody is executed for taking part in a failed coup. Hitler and his minions weren't.

I wish Trump was in jail, too. But I'll have to wait until this judicial process is completed. I'm surprised it's taking so long. Still, I'm not in a hurry to foment violence.

Well shit, I guess I’ll take suicide as punishment then./facepalm