"The Mist" is a terrible movie

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Originally posted by: BrownTown

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

they saw their plight as hopeless.

think of it this way: if you were trapped in the bottom of a well in a very rural area, with no apparent signs of rescue and after several days you felt hopeless and had a gun, would you wait until you starved to death or would you kill yourself?

they thing is that they could get food and water, and weren't trapped, they could move and they had other people to keep them company. They had absolutely no indication that the earth had been taken over, only the areas they lived in. They had been driving for hours and not been attacked, so I don't see why thy couldn't have at least tried to make it to a house and hold up there, or get another car and keep moving. I mean maybe I am overanalysing here, but I saw no impending doom. that they couldn't have moved on foot. Hell, they could have just waited in the car for at least another day without even fealing the effects of thirst. If I were going to kill myself I would at least wait till I started getting seriously dehydrated

Seeing spiders burst out of the arrogant black dude while he was still alive would be enough for me to consider the gun.

I don't think that was the same guy - the guy the spiders jumped out of had an MP outfit and helmet on. They never actually showed what happened to the arrogant guy and the rest of the group that went with him, except for that one guy who tied the string around his waist.

But yea, I see your point. It would be far preferrable to take a quick bullet to the head than be used as a living host for all those spiders.

I really thought it was the black guy but regardless that's how I see it too. My only real problem with the movie is him not making sure there was a bullet for each of them in the end. Was the last one a dud? I don't remember him even checking. Did he just assume the chamber had enough bullets or what? That kinda ruined the scene for me during the afterthought. Maybe I missed something here but how does he do that without being sure he wouldn't live with being a mass-murderer?

it was the MP...they showed his white helmet and he told the it was their (the military's) fault before he died. Early in the movie the MP told the other 3 soldiers he was going to check out the pharmacy and then they'd meet back at the Jeep.

the last scenes in the car, he knew they only had four bullets, and they talked about it. He spilled all the bullets in his hand, tossed out the two empty shells, and looked at the 4 left. He told them he'd figure something out and then shot the others.

He could have put his son's head next to his, and fired through the temples on the son's exposed side.

In real life that would be unlikely to work. The path of a bullet usually changes greatly and rarely passes in a straight line except for high velocity rounds, and even those usually disintegrate unless an AP round.

the most likely outcome would be the son would die, and the other person would be wounded, but not mortally, if not even untouched.

It would work if he was using my ammunition. Bullets often don't deform as much as is believed in popular concept. I have seen Hydra-Shoks that didn't even mushroom upon penetrating their target.

I'm not an avid gun nut, but I presume that a woman would carry a .38 for self defense with pretty standard rounds. I doubt the gun and ammo would have had the power and stability to work as you propose.

low speed rounds usually don't deform badly, but high speed do, that was my point. A subsonic bullet would likley lack the power to penetrate and pass through. A high powered would, but would likely fragment and be ineffective to ensure a killshot on the second party unless it was an AP or jacketed round.

Hydra-Shok are high velocity, and one of the worst culprits for not mushrooming. Plus, didn't the woman say the husband bought the gun for her? He may have gone the .357 route. I cannot recall if the clerk said the calibre of the revolver.

Most ammunition I buy is FMJ, I seldom see un-jacketed rounds for sale through the channels I get my ammunition. Don't know how it is in the regular ammo market.

 

[eelw]

Holy crap. What's with the nested quotes????

 

[BrownTown]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I'm not sure they even had the groceries. I'd have to rewatch, but in the midst of the attack and them all scrabling for cover and to escape, i think they got dropped.

Yeah, they get dropped, but we see them pass tons of other cars which they could have driven, and there would surely be houses or stores right off the road which would have some food and water.

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Also, don't forget that there was no electricity. And if the mist was everywhere, then the prospect of having any future was grim. That would likely mean no more electircity, water, or gas. No food, and you can't even go hunt or farm.

Yeah, they would be pretty fucked if the mist was everywhere, but they had absolutely no reason to believe that, they had no knowledge of how far it had spread.

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Bottom line, if the mist was everywhere as it must have seemed, there was no hope. They were going to die, it was just a matter of time and how.

This is true for everyone of us living today and yet none of us have killed ourselves, they likely had access to food and water and shelter for at least a week and had other people as companions. They could easily have found another car with fuel to escape.

Also on a related note, if they werent total idiots they should have noticed their car getting down to empty and pulled up to a house and gotten out and looked for another car instead of lettign themselves stall out in the middle of the road. I know its a movie, but like I said I can only go so far with "suspenison of disbelief" and this movie asked me to take it to far. I cannot accept that people would take their lives at so little value that they would not have jsut gotten another car, or hid out. Maybe its because I am an atheist and belive this is all there is, but even if you are religous, suiscide means going to hell, so thats no better.

 

[anxi80]

more food for thought since this thread got bumped and it was an interesting point brought up on dvdtalk:

mrs. carmody was saying that their only way to salvation was to offer up the child as a sacrifice. notice that soon after tom shoots his son that the mist lifts and the military is clearing everything out. just something interesting that i didnt really connect until i read it there.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: anxi80
more food for thought since this thread got bumped and it was an interesting point brought up on dvdtalk:

mrs. carmody was saying that their only way to salvation was to offer up the child as a sacrifice. notice that soon after tom shoots his son that the mist lifts and the military is clearing everything out. just something interesting that i didnt really connect until i read it there.

total coincidence, since in the original story the kid doesn't get killed.

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: anxi80
more food for thought since this thread got bumped and it was an interesting point brought up on dvdtalk:

mrs. carmody was saying that their only way to salvation was to offer up the child as a sacrifice. notice that soon after tom shoots his son that the mist lifts and the military is clearing everything out. just something interesting that i didnt really connect until i read it there.

total coincidence, since in the original story the kid doesn't get killed.

but the original story doesnt let you know if they make it or not either. it ends with a cliffhanger of sorts making the reader use their imagination of what happens next.

 

[Scarpozzi]

It's a poor attempt to make a horror film. It happens all the time....the difference though is you expect that kind of film to either be comedic or to be slightly better written.

 

[SlickSnake]

Most people who hate the movie will hate it because the religious element will hit too close to home, if they are a religious nut. That part was believable. "World is gonna end, make peace with the diety fast or you won't get a chance" is a common theme in movies. The religious cow I would have taken her Bible away and hid it after her first few outbursts to get her under control. Otherwise, she would have been gagged and restrained in the back room, away from others.

And the part where the kid gets eaten in the loading dock, WTH didn't they run to the generator and close the door on the tentacle thing when they had the chance? First thing I would have done, not last.

And when they piled dog food at the windows, I would have been dumping crap off those shelves holding the food, and piling the heavy shelves up in front of the windows. They had plenty of help for it. And I would have made a safe area in the back room, or in a walk in cooler and fortified it, since they had no way of knowing what would happen next.

The ending I REALLY had a problem with, though. I just saw this last night, and I have to say WTF with the ending. Why wouldn't they wait to see if the guy survives for a while outside the SUV and give him a chance to return with gas? He could give the gun to the old man, and if he gets eaten, no loss, and he don't need to waste a bullet on himself (since 4 bullets are left and there is 5 of them). They could have waited until the SUV was attacked, or they were starving or something to pull the trigger. Bad plot twist there.

But overall I would rate it 8 stars for effort out of 10. IMDB wasn't too far fetched in the rating, me thinks.

 

[RayH]

I liked the ending though they could have probably made the situation look more desperate to make the suicide at that moment look like the only available option. I think the problem is that people are so used to good movie endings is that you pretty much have to have a monster right there to make it look like an option.

I think the ending adds a bit of reality to the movie; that you can make what appears to be all logical choices but if you give up hope you will lose or making logical choices increases your chances of survival but in the end it's still a crapshoot. It could have just as easily been monsters showing up at the end instead of soldiers.

It gives you an idea of what people may have been thinking in that hospital during Katrina when it looked like no one was coming to help. It reminded me a little of another movie, Trigger Effect.

Anyone notice the one woman on the army truck at the end was the one that left the supermarket in the beginning to help her kids?

 

[lokiju]

I liked the movie more than I thought I would and was not surprised by the ending in any way as it was after all a Stephen King story. My wife on the other hand really didn't like the ending.

 

[Queasy]

My wife and I started to watch this today. We had to turn it off after about an hour (when Andre Braugher's group walked out the door and the whole thing with the rope) because the characters were just acting so freaking stupid. I know that making dumb decisions is standard for horror movies but this reeeeeeeealy stretched that theory.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

I saw this movie last night. Apart from the silly CGI (the first appearance of the tentacle had me LOLing, the pterodactyl-like creature...) and the bad acting by Thomas Jane (the lead actor), I thought it was a pretty good movie. Yes, the 'let's take irony to the absolute max' ending was a bit weird - I didn't mind the dude killing his posse (son included) but the appearance of the military and the mist fading away felt a little awkward. I just think they could have waited until they were under attack to pull the trigger.

Hehe, I spent the whole movie trying to figure out where I knew the lead actor from. I finally checked IMDb and noticed he was the guy from 'The Sweetest Thing'. Marcia Harden was pretty fucking good and I thought it was an award-worthy performance, in total contrast with the dude's acting after the shooting in the car (awkward cry, pause, award cry, pause, lolwtf).

The movie could have benefited from a score though, IMO. I'd give it a 7/10. It only loses points for some wooden acting (Thomas Jane), some cliches (the cashier chick dies after making out with her highschool-crush) and bad CGI (but excusable for the movie's low budget) but more than makes up for it with some truly chilling sequences, like when the mob turns on the young military dude and throws him out for the monsters after stabbing him. It had a bunch of interesting characters, like the nerdy sharpshooter, the frail old lady with cojones (and the can of peas), the pretty teacher and brass-balled biker with the neat line (Hey Crazy Lady, I believe in God too. I just don't think he's the bloodthirsty asshole you make him out to be.)

 

[pcslookout]

Watch the black and white version.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: lokiju
I liked the movie more than I thought I would and was not surprised by the ending in any way as it was after all a Stephen King story. My wife on the other hand really didn't like the ending.

That wasn't Stephen King's ending, though.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: lokiju
I liked the movie more than I thought I would and was not surprised by the ending in any way as it was after all a Stephen King story. My wife on the other hand really didn't like the ending.

That wasn't Stephen King's ending, though.

Though it should be mentioned that he did like the movie ending better than his.

 

[0roo0roo]

shoulda rented the diving bell and the butterfly instead
or enchanted...juno...sweeney todd

 

[Jeeebus]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: lokiju
I liked the movie more than I thought I would and was not surprised by the ending in any way as it was after all a Stephen King story. My wife on the other hand really didn't like the ending.

That wasn't Stephen King's ending, though.

True, though King did sign off on it and said he liked it better than his original ending.

I thought the movie was fairly retarded and the story would have been FAR more interesting if it didn't introduce Half-Life alien crabs and bugs, but rather let the mist remain a total mystery throughout the movie. The point of the scare should have been the fear of not knowing what was out in the mist... whether the people that went out lived or died... not some giant crab chopping people in half.

And as to the ending... I think my eyes almost rolled entirely out of the socket given how trite it was. I kept waiting for Nelson to jump out from behind the car and deliver a trademark "Ha Ha," but alas, the movie ended about as well as the story proceeded... not well.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Jeeebus
And as to the ending... I think my eyes almost rolled entirely out of the socket given how trite it was. I kept waiting for Nelson to jump out from behind the car and deliver a trademark "Ha Ha," but alas, the movie ended about as well as the story proceeded... not well.

:laugh:
If I had the DVD, I think I'd rip one of those last images and chop Nelson in.

 

[Jmman]

I thought it was pretty good.......

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
shoulda rented the diving bell and the butterfly instead
or enchanted...juno...sweeney todd

I have Cloverfield scheduled for tonight. Will watch Enchanted tomorrow.
I have avoided all the reviews/threads on Cloverfield so far. I honestly don't know what to expect. I am easily entertained though, so it will probably be alright. Unless of course, it is a giant can of suck.

 

[pcslookout]

Stephen King is one of the greatest writers known to man.

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: pcslookout
Stephen King is one of the greatest writers known to man.

Right up there with that Shakyspears fellow, ehh?

 

[MustangSVT]

this was the "WTF" movie of the year for me..

I literally shouted out WHAT THE FUCK!! about 5 times throughout the movie.

maybe I can watch other crap now

 

[sandorski]

I liked it. Kinda had a Half Life thing going on.

 

[Balt]

It's an old thread but I just saw the movie recently and I liked it.

One of the keys to movies like this is to go in with somewhat low expectations. Expect that there are going to be some plot holes and some stupid actions taken by the characters.

Originally posted by: sandorski
I liked it. Kinda had a Half Life thing going on.

I thought that myself too a couple of times. I think it's a pretty good indicator that a Half-Life movie could be pretty awesome if they actually put some effort into it.