Originally posted by: tailes151
In case noone noticed right at the beginning of the movie the main character was painting a movie poster for The Dark Tower. It was a pretty badass looking poster. Then the storm comes and it gets all torn up.
Darabont (sp?) had always wanted to work on the Dark Tower movie, should King have allowed it to be made, but instead King sold the rights to the movie (for next to nothing mind you) to JJ Abrams.
I could very well be looking way too deeply into things but it seems like Darabont viewed himself as creating this amazing piece of art in the Dark Tower movie, and when King gave it to Abrams it was like he'd torn his to shreds. The character also said something along the lines of, "They'll just throw something together on photoshop." to make the new one. Perhaps a little resentment?
That could also explain the ending not following the book. He may have just been so pissed off with King he figured he'd end it how he wanted it to end.
Originally posted by: tailes151
In case noone noticed right at the beginning of the movie the main character was painting a movie poster for The Dark Tower. It was a pretty badass looking poster. Then the storm comes and it gets all torn up.
Darabont (sp?) had always wanted to work on the Dark Tower movie, should King have allowed it to be made, but instead King sold the rights to the movie (for next to nothing mind you) to JJ Abrams.
I could very well be looking way too deeply into things but it seems like Darabont viewed himself as creating this amazing piece of art in the Dark Tower movie, and when King gave it to Abrams it was like he'd torn his to shreds. The character also said something along the lines of, "They'll just throw something together on photoshop." to make the new one. Perhaps a little resentment?
That could also explain the ending not following the book. He may have just been so pissed off with King he figured he'd end it how he wanted it to end.
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I thought it was a decent movie, and liked the way it showed how humans can be just as monstrous as real monsters.
Originally posted by: tailes151
In case noone noticed right at the beginning of the movie the main character was painting a movie poster for The Dark Tower. It was a pretty badass looking poster. Then the storm comes and it gets all torn up.
Darabont (sp?) had always wanted to work on the Dark Tower movie, should King have allowed it to be made, but instead King sold the rights to the movie (for next to nothing mind you) to JJ Abrams.
I could very well be looking way too deeply into things but it seems like Darabont viewed himself as creating this amazing piece of art in the Dark Tower movie, and when King gave it to Abrams it was like he'd torn his to shreds. The character also said something along the lines of, "They'll just throw something together on photoshop." to make the new one. Perhaps a little resentment?
That could also explain the ending not following the book. He may have just been so pissed off with King he figured he'd end it how he wanted it to end.
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I thought it was a decent movie, and liked the way it showed how humans can be just as monstrous as real monsters.
Sure, just throw man's inhumanity to frogs in there...
Seriously though I thought it was pretty good, I've been in some disaster drills and if they're any indication of what happens in real life, the movie was fairly realistic.
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: tailes151
In case noone noticed right at the beginning of the movie the main character was painting a movie poster for The Dark Tower. It was a pretty badass looking poster. Then the storm comes and it gets all torn up.
Darabont (sp?) had always wanted to work on the Dark Tower movie, should King have allowed it to be made, but instead King sold the rights to the movie (for next to nothing mind you) to JJ Abrams.
I could very well be looking way too deeply into things but it seems like Darabont viewed himself as creating this amazing piece of art in the Dark Tower movie, and when King gave it to Abrams it was like he'd torn his to shreds. The character also said something along the lines of, "They'll just throw something together on photoshop." to make the new one. Perhaps a little resentment?
That could also explain the ending not following the book. He may have just been so pissed off with King he figured he'd end it how he wanted it to end.
Actually, that was cover art from the comic book adaption if I recall correctly.
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I thought it was a decent movie, and liked the way it showed how humans can be just as monstrous as real monsters.
Sure, just throw man's inhumanity to frogs in there...
Seriously though I thought it was pretty good, I've been in some disaster drills and if they're any indication of what happens in real life, the movie was fairly realistic.
Yeah, but the reason people go crazy is because they want to stay ALIVE, and that is exactly why they wouldn't have killed themslves and tried to keep escaping.
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: tailes151
In case noone noticed right at the beginning of the movie the main character was painting a movie poster for The Dark Tower. It was a pretty badass looking poster. Then the storm comes and it gets all torn up.
Darabont (sp?) had always wanted to work on the Dark Tower movie, should King have allowed it to be made, but instead King sold the rights to the movie (for next to nothing mind you) to JJ Abrams.
I could very well be looking way too deeply into things but it seems like Darabont viewed himself as creating this amazing piece of art in the Dark Tower movie, and when King gave it to Abrams it was like he'd torn his to shreds. The character also said something along the lines of, "They'll just throw something together on photoshop." to make the new one. Perhaps a little resentment?
That could also explain the ending not following the book. He may have just been so pissed off with King he figured he'd end it how he wanted it to end.
Actually, that was cover art from the comic book adaption if I recall correctly.
actually it was an original piece by renowned movie poster artist Drew Struzan commissioned by Darabont for the movie The Mist. If you watch closely, you will also see a poster on the wall of the studio for The Thing, another Struzan poster.
Originally posted by: dbk
It had a bit of everything.
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: tailes151
In case noone noticed right at the beginning of the movie the main character was painting a movie poster for The Dark Tower. It was a pretty badass looking poster. Then the storm comes and it gets all torn up.
Darabont (sp?) had always wanted to work on the Dark Tower movie, should King have allowed it to be made, but instead King sold the rights to the movie (for next to nothing mind you) to JJ Abrams.
I could very well be looking way too deeply into things but it seems like Darabont viewed himself as creating this amazing piece of art in the Dark Tower movie, and when King gave it to Abrams it was like he'd torn his to shreds. The character also said something along the lines of, "They'll just throw something together on photoshop." to make the new one. Perhaps a little resentment?
That could also explain the ending not following the book. He may have just been so pissed off with King he figured he'd end it how he wanted it to end.
Actually, that was cover art from the comic book adaption if I recall correctly.
actually it was an original piece by renowned movie poster artist Drew Struzan commissioned by Darabont for the movie The Mist. If you watch closely, you will also see a poster on the wall of the studio for The Thing, another Struzan poster.
Got a link to it so I can compare it to the comic covers? I saw The Mist in the theatre and don't remember it that well, I just remember thinking it was an enlarged version of the comic art.
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: tailes151
In case noone noticed right at the beginning of the movie the main character was painting a movie poster for The Dark Tower. It was a pretty badass looking poster. Then the storm comes and it gets all torn up.
Darabont (sp?) had always wanted to work on the Dark Tower movie, should King have allowed it to be made, but instead King sold the rights to the movie (for next to nothing mind you) to JJ Abrams.
I could very well be looking way too deeply into things but it seems like Darabont viewed himself as creating this amazing piece of art in the Dark Tower movie, and when King gave it to Abrams it was like he'd torn his to shreds. The character also said something along the lines of, "They'll just throw something together on photoshop." to make the new one. Perhaps a little resentment?
That could also explain the ending not following the book. He may have just been so pissed off with King he figured he'd end it how he wanted it to end.
Actually, that was cover art from the comic book adaption if I recall correctly.
actually it was an original piece by renowned movie poster artist Drew Struzan commissioned by Darabont for the movie The Mist. If you watch closely, you will also see a poster on the wall of the studio for The Thing, another Struzan poster.
Got a link to it so I can compare it to the comic covers? I saw The Mist in the theatre and don't remember it that well, I just remember thinking it was an enlarged version of the comic art.
here's a youtube link, but it's hard to see. can't find a screencap anywhere online surprisingly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hbdZPCcej0
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: tailes151
In case noone noticed right at the beginning of the movie the main character was painting a movie poster for The Dark Tower. It was a pretty badass looking poster. Then the storm comes and it gets all torn up.
Darabont (sp?) had always wanted to work on the Dark Tower movie, should King have allowed it to be made, but instead King sold the rights to the movie (for next to nothing mind you) to JJ Abrams.
I could very well be looking way too deeply into things but it seems like Darabont viewed himself as creating this amazing piece of art in the Dark Tower movie, and when King gave it to Abrams it was like he'd torn his to shreds. The character also said something along the lines of, "They'll just throw something together on photoshop." to make the new one. Perhaps a little resentment?
That could also explain the ending not following the book. He may have just been so pissed off with King he figured he'd end it how he wanted it to end.
Actually, that was cover art from the comic book adaption if I recall correctly.
actually it was an original piece by renowned movie poster artist Drew Struzan commissioned by Darabont for the movie The Mist. If you watch closely, you will also see a poster on the wall of the studio for The Thing, another Struzan poster.
Got a link to it so I can compare it to the comic covers? I saw The Mist in the theatre and don't remember it that well, I just remember thinking it was an enlarged version of the comic art.
here's a youtube link, but it's hard to see. can't find a screencap anywhere online surprisingly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hbdZPCcej0
Hmm, doesn't look like one from the individual comics, I could have sworn that was on one of the collected volumes though. I will have to check when I go by The Comic Shop next time. Wonder if they licensed it for a collected volume, if it was done by that guy you mention?
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
they saw their plight as hopeless.
think of it this way: if you were trapped in the bottom of a well in a very rural area, with no apparent signs of rescue and after several days you felt hopeless and had a gun, would you wait until you starved to death or would you kill yourself?
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
they saw their plight as hopeless.
think of it this way: if you were trapped in the bottom of a well in a very rural area, with no apparent signs of rescue and after several days you felt hopeless and had a gun, would you wait until you starved to death or would you kill yourself?
they thing is that they could get food and water, and weren't trapped, they could move and they had other people to keep them company. They had absolutely no indication that the earth had been taken over, only the areas they lived in. They had been driving for hours and not been attacked, so I don't see why thy couldn't have at least tried to make it to a house and hold up there, or get another car and keep moving. I mean maybe I am overanalysing here, but I saw no impending doom. that they couldn't have moved on foot. Hell, they could have just waited in the car for at least another day without even fealing the effects of thirst. If I were going to kill myself I would at least wait till I started getting seriously dehydrated
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
they saw their plight as hopeless.
think of it this way: if you were trapped in the bottom of a well in a very rural area, with no apparent signs of rescue and after several days you felt hopeless and had a gun, would you wait until you starved to death or would you kill yourself?
they thing is that they could get food and water, and weren't trapped, they could move and they had other people to keep them company. They had absolutely no indication that the earth had been taken over, only the areas they lived in. They had been driving for hours and not been attacked, so I don't see why thy couldn't have at least tried to make it to a house and hold up there, or get another car and keep moving. I mean maybe I am overanalysing here, but I saw no impending doom. that they couldn't have moved on foot. Hell, they could have just waited in the car for at least another day without even fealing the effects of thirst. If I were going to kill myself I would at least wait till I started getting seriously dehydrated
Seeing spiders burst out of the arrogant black dude while he was still alive would be enough for me to consider the gun.
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
they saw their plight as hopeless.
think of it this way: if you were trapped in the bottom of a well in a very rural area, with no apparent signs of rescue and after several days you felt hopeless and had a gun, would you wait until you starved to death or would you kill yourself?
they thing is that they could get food and water, and weren't trapped, they could move and they had other people to keep them company. They had absolutely no indication that the earth had been taken over, only the areas they lived in. They had been driving for hours and not been attacked, so I don't see why thy couldn't have at least tried to make it to a house and hold up there, or get another car and keep moving. I mean maybe I am overanalysing here, but I saw no impending doom. that they couldn't have moved on foot. Hell, they could have just waited in the car for at least another day without even fealing the effects of thirst. If I were going to kill myself I would at least wait till I started getting seriously dehydrated
Seeing spiders burst out of the arrogant black dude while he was still alive would be enough for me to consider the gun.
I don't think that was the same guy - the guy the spiders jumped out of had an MP outfit and helmet on. They never actually showed what happened to the arrogant guy and the rest of the group that went with him, except for that one guy who tied the string around his waist.
But yea, I see your point. It would be far preferrable to take a quick bullet to the head than be used as a living host for all those spiders.
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
they saw their plight as hopeless.
think of it this way: if you were trapped in the bottom of a well in a very rural area, with no apparent signs of rescue and after several days you felt hopeless and had a gun, would you wait until you starved to death or would you kill yourself?
they thing is that they could get food and water, and weren't trapped, they could move and they had other people to keep them company. They had absolutely no indication that the earth had been taken over, only the areas they lived in. They had been driving for hours and not been attacked, so I don't see why thy couldn't have at least tried to make it to a house and hold up there, or get another car and keep moving. I mean maybe I am overanalysing here, but I saw no impending doom. that they couldn't have moved on foot. Hell, they could have just waited in the car for at least another day without even fealing the effects of thirst. If I were going to kill myself I would at least wait till I started getting seriously dehydrated
Seeing spiders burst out of the arrogant black dude while he was still alive would be enough for me to consider the gun.
I don't think that was the same guy - the guy the spiders jumped out of had an MP outfit and helmet on. They never actually showed what happened to the arrogant guy and the rest of the group that went with him, except for that one guy who tied the string around his waist.
But yea, I see your point. It would be far preferrable to take a quick bullet to the head than be used as a living host for all those spiders.
I really thought it was the black guy but regardless that's how I see it too. My only real problem with the movie is him not making sure there was a bullet for each of them in the end. Was the last one a dud? I don't remember him even checking. Did he just assume the chamber had enough bullets or what? That kinda ruined the scene for me during the afterthought. Maybe I missed something here but how does he do that without being sure he wouldn't live with being a mass-murderer?
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
they saw their plight as hopeless.
think of it this way: if you were trapped in the bottom of a well in a very rural area, with no apparent signs of rescue and after several days you felt hopeless and had a gun, would you wait until you starved to death or would you kill yourself?
they thing is that they could get food and water, and weren't trapped, they could move and they had other people to keep them company. They had absolutely no indication that the earth had been taken over, only the areas they lived in. They had been driving for hours and not been attacked, so I don't see why thy couldn't have at least tried to make it to a house and hold up there, or get another car and keep moving. I mean maybe I am overanalysing here, but I saw no impending doom. that they couldn't have moved on foot. Hell, they could have just waited in the car for at least another day without even fealing the effects of thirst. If I were going to kill myself I would at least wait till I started getting seriously dehydrated
Seeing spiders burst out of the arrogant black dude while he was still alive would be enough for me to consider the gun.
I don't think that was the same guy - the guy the spiders jumped out of had an MP outfit and helmet on. They never actually showed what happened to the arrogant guy and the rest of the group that went with him, except for that one guy who tied the string around his waist.
But yea, I see your point. It would be far preferrable to take a quick bullet to the head than be used as a living host for all those spiders.
I really thought it was the black guy but regardless that's how I see it too. My only real problem with the movie is him not making sure there was a bullet for each of them in the end. Was the last one a dud? I don't remember him even checking. Did he just assume the chamber had enough bullets or what? That kinda ruined the scene for me during the afterthought. Maybe I missed something here but how does he do that without being sure he wouldn't live with being a mass-murderer?
it was the MP...they showed his white helmet and he told the it was their (the military's) fault before he died. Early in the movie the MP told the other 3 soldiers he was going to check out the pharmacy and then they'd meet back at the Jeep.
the last scenes in the car, he knew they only had four bullets, and they talked about it. He spilled all the bullets in his hand, tossed out the two empty shells, and looked at the 4 left. He told them he'd figure something out and then shot the others.
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
they saw their plight as hopeless.
think of it this way: if you were trapped in the bottom of a well in a very rural area, with no apparent signs of rescue and after several days you felt hopeless and had a gun, would you wait until you starved to death or would you kill yourself?
they thing is that they could get food and water, and weren't trapped, they could move and they had other people to keep them company. They had absolutely no indication that the earth had been taken over, only the areas they lived in. They had been driving for hours and not been attacked, so I don't see why thy couldn't have at least tried to make it to a house and hold up there, or get another car and keep moving. I mean maybe I am overanalysing here, but I saw no impending doom. that they couldn't have moved on foot. Hell, they could have just waited in the car for at least another day without even fealing the effects of thirst. If I were going to kill myself I would at least wait till I started getting seriously dehydrated
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
they saw their plight as hopeless.
think of it this way: if you were trapped in the bottom of a well in a very rural area, with no apparent signs of rescue and after several days you felt hopeless and had a gun, would you wait until you starved to death or would you kill yourself?
they thing is that they could get food and water, and weren't trapped, they could move and they had other people to keep them company. They had absolutely no indication that the earth had been taken over, only the areas they lived in. They had been driving for hours and not been attacked, so I don't see why thy couldn't have at least tried to make it to a house and hold up there, or get another car and keep moving. I mean maybe I am overanalysing here, but I saw no impending doom. that they couldn't have moved on foot. Hell, they could have just waited in the car for at least another day without even fealing the effects of thirst. If I were going to kill myself I would at least wait till I started getting seriously dehydrated
Seeing spiders burst out of the arrogant black dude while he was still alive would be enough for me to consider the gun.
I don't think that was the same guy - the guy the spiders jumped out of had an MP outfit and helmet on. They never actually showed what happened to the arrogant guy and the rest of the group that went with him, except for that one guy who tied the string around his waist.
But yea, I see your point. It would be far preferrable to take a quick bullet to the head than be used as a living host for all those spiders.
I really thought it was the black guy but regardless that's how I see it too. My only real problem with the movie is him not making sure there was a bullet for each of them in the end. Was the last one a dud? I don't remember him even checking. Did he just assume the chamber had enough bullets or what? That kinda ruined the scene for me during the afterthought. Maybe I missed something here but how does he do that without being sure he wouldn't live with being a mass-murderer?
it was the MP...they showed his white helmet and he told the it was their (the military's) fault before he died. Early in the movie the MP told the other 3 soldiers he was going to check out the pharmacy and then they'd meet back at the Jeep.
the last scenes in the car, he knew they only had four bullets, and they talked about it. He spilled all the bullets in his hand, tossed out the two empty shells, and looked at the 4 left. He told them he'd figure something out and then shot the others.
He could have put his son's head next to his, and fired through the temples on the son's exposed side.
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
they saw their plight as hopeless.
think of it this way: if you were trapped in the bottom of a well in a very rural area, with no apparent signs of rescue and after several days you felt hopeless and had a gun, would you wait until you starved to death or would you kill yourself?
they thing is that they could get food and water, and weren't trapped, they could move and they had other people to keep them company. They had absolutely no indication that the earth had been taken over, only the areas they lived in. They had been driving for hours and not been attacked, so I don't see why thy couldn't have at least tried to make it to a house and hold up there, or get another car and keep moving. I mean maybe I am overanalysing here, but I saw no impending doom. that they couldn't have moved on foot. Hell, they could have just waited in the car for at least another day without even fealing the effects of thirst. If I were going to kill myself I would at least wait till I started getting seriously dehydrated
Seeing spiders burst out of the arrogant black dude while he was still alive would be enough for me to consider the gun.
I don't think that was the same guy - the guy the spiders jumped out of had an MP outfit and helmet on. They never actually showed what happened to the arrogant guy and the rest of the group that went with him, except for that one guy who tied the string around his waist.
But yea, I see your point. It would be far preferrable to take a quick bullet to the head than be used as a living host for all those spiders.
I really thought it was the black guy but regardless that's how I see it too. My only real problem with the movie is him not making sure there was a bullet for each of them in the end. Was the last one a dud? I don't remember him even checking. Did he just assume the chamber had enough bullets or what? That kinda ruined the scene for me during the afterthought. Maybe I missed something here but how does he do that without being sure he wouldn't live with being a mass-murderer?
it was the MP...they showed his white helmet and he told the it was their (the military's) fault before he died. Early in the movie the MP told the other 3 soldiers he was going to check out the pharmacy and then they'd meet back at the Jeep.
the last scenes in the car, he knew they only had four bullets, and they talked about it. He spilled all the bullets in his hand, tossed out the two empty shells, and looked at the 4 left. He told them he'd figure something out and then shot the others.
He could have put his son's head next to his, and fired through the temples on the son's exposed side.
In real life that would be unlikely to work. The path of a bullet usually changes greatly and rarely passes in a straight line except for high velocity rounds, and even those usually disintegrate unless an AP round.
the most likely outcome would be the son would die, and the other person would be wounded, but not mortally, if not even untouched.
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
they saw their plight as hopeless.
think of it this way: if you were trapped in the bottom of a well in a very rural area, with no apparent signs of rescue and after several days you felt hopeless and had a gun, would you wait until you starved to death or would you kill yourself?
they thing is that they could get food and water, and weren't trapped, they could move and they had other people to keep them company. They had absolutely no indication that the earth had been taken over, only the areas they lived in. They had been driving for hours and not been attacked, so I don't see why thy couldn't have at least tried to make it to a house and hold up there, or get another car and keep moving. I mean maybe I am overanalysing here, but I saw no impending doom. that they couldn't have moved on foot. Hell, they could have just waited in the car for at least another day without even fealing the effects of thirst. If I were going to kill myself I would at least wait till I started getting seriously dehydrated
Seeing spiders burst out of the arrogant black dude while he was still alive would be enough for me to consider the gun.
I don't think that was the same guy - the guy the spiders jumped out of had an MP outfit and helmet on. They never actually showed what happened to the arrogant guy and the rest of the group that went with him, except for that one guy who tied the string around his waist.
But yea, I see your point. It would be far preferrable to take a quick bullet to the head than be used as a living host for all those spiders.
I really thought it was the black guy but regardless that's how I see it too. My only real problem with the movie is him not making sure there was a bullet for each of them in the end. Was the last one a dud? I don't remember him even checking. Did he just assume the chamber had enough bullets or what? That kinda ruined the scene for me during the afterthought. Maybe I missed something here but how does he do that without being sure he wouldn't live with being a mass-murderer?
it was the MP...they showed his white helmet and he told the it was their (the military's) fault before he died. Early in the movie the MP told the other 3 soldiers he was going to check out the pharmacy and then they'd meet back at the Jeep.
the last scenes in the car, he knew they only had four bullets, and they talked about it. He spilled all the bullets in his hand, tossed out the two empty shells, and looked at the 4 left. He told them he'd figure something out and then shot the others.
He could have put his son's head next to his, and fired through the temples on the son's exposed side.
In real life that would be unlikely to work. The path of a bullet usually changes greatly and rarely passes in a straight line except for high velocity rounds, and even those usually disintegrate unless an AP round.
the most likely outcome would be the son would die, and the other person would be wounded, but not mortally, if not even untouched.
It would work if he was using my ammunition.Bullets often don't deform as much as is believed in popular concept. I have seen Hydra-Shoks that didn't even mushroom upon penetrating their target.
