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[Bozo Galora]

aidsanjm:

you have a very anal retentive way of replying to posts here

 

[StageLeft]

I'm not saying it to thread crap, but since you asked, truly my thoughts are I couldn't give all that much less of a crap. I avoid news about it as much as possible, getting only what large amounts I'm invariably exposed to by going to news sites.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
aidsanjm:

you have a very anal retentive way of replying to posts here

lol, asking for specific details, or some clear, rational argument, is "anal retentive"..?

Stop being so stupid.

 

[Zebo]

Easy target and greedy people make bad combo.

Micheal is a freak of the highest order...but I really believe he just loves children in a platonic way.. contributes millions to make thier life better and his time...but an adult male in USA should never put themselves in such comprimising situations, his advisors are absolutly horrible.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Easy target and greedy people make bad combo.

Micheal is a freak of the highest order...but I really believe he just loves children in a platonic way.. contributes millions to make thier life better and his time...but an adult male in USA should never put themselves in such comprimising situations, his advisors are absolutly horrible.

And how do him qualify him giving children alcohol and showing them porn (which are fairly indisputable at this point). That alone boils enough blood to see a man innocent of molestation still hang.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: Zebo
Easy target and greedy people make bad combo.

Micheal is a freak of the highest order...but I really believe he just loves children in a platonic way.. contributes millions to make thier life better and his time...but an adult male in USA should never put themselves in such comprimising situations, his advisors are absolutly horrible.

And how do him qualify him giving children alcohol and showing them porn (which are fairly indisputable at this point). That alone boils enough blood to see a man innocent of molestation still hang.

As I said easy target and a moron...wine and beer not really that big a deal in most cultures BTW...Prons more debatable.

I think he's already hanged I just hope for the kids sake he really did'nt do anything to them.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
MJ wears lipstick, affects an artificially high female voice, wears a woman's wig, hates the fact he was born black (self hate), and was so fearful of his father that he used to vomit sometimes at the mere sight of him.

So fvcking what?

How does any of the above shed any light, whatsoever, on the question at hand (whether he sexually molested the kid)?

It shows that Micheal is unsatsified with him self and will goto extreme measures to correct it. This shows that he has abused himself and his more than likely abused. We know form millions of cases of abuse, that abuses often become abusers.

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
I dont even want to think about what goes on in the bathtub with "daddy" at bath time for these little darlin's. And I have yet to see any plausible explanation for the third baby he has "aquired". How about a DNA test for all three????
(Dont hold your breath).

Of course, another possibility is that nothing untoward goes on at bath time. What evidence do you have that he is sexually molesting his own kids?

In the Martin Bashir documentary, his kids (what little you saw of them) appeared to be pretty happy.

He's molestings kids? He held his newborn child of a balcony in germany! ONE HANDED!

It's a documentary, what do you expect?

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
The current accusers brother not only described his erect penis, but also the fact he has white splotches on it and his butt.

Yes, and you, and Tabb, and others have also accurately described MJ's penis. Were you, Tabb, etc. molested by MJ? Or perhaps you read a description of his penis on the web like everyonbe else. Keep in mind, there were descriptions of his penis in the public domain prior to this trial.

The photos of his penis where needed to see if kids would be able to describe. Which infact they did. Tell me why in the fvcking hell young kids have seen Jackson's Johnson and his ass?

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
MJ is a sick dog, and anyone with any life experience can tell what he's all about.

You're both stupid.

 

[EndlessDennis]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: EndlessDennis

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Grunt03
I think he is guilty

Guilty of what???????????????????????????????????????????????

Child molestation...duh.

Glad to know that the judge in the Michael Jackson trial is with us. But on the serious side, Jules, stop judging him. None of us are in a position to judge him. People hate Michael for all the wrong reasons. I just love people who believe all this media bullcrap about Michael Jackson. Don't you people know that the media makes tons of money reporting bad things about him? If the media was fair, everyone would know that the good things Michael has done outweighs the speculations by far.

ROFL. He's a sicko, it's as easy to see as ABC.

ROFL. Easy to see as ABC? Or easy to believe as ABC? It's very easy to BELIEVE he's a sicko. But if you actually researched the stuff that they don't tell you on the news you would probably think he's innocent, unless you're some ignorant person who thinks just because he's weird that makes him guilty.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: EndlessDennis

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: EndlessDennis

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Grunt03
I think he is guilty

Guilty of what???????????????????????????????????????????????

Child molestation...duh.

Glad to know that the judge in the Michael Jackson trial is with us. But on the serious side, Jules, stop judging him. None of us are in a position to judge him. People hate Michael for all the wrong reasons. I just love people who believe all this media bullcrap about Michael Jackson. Don't you people know that the media makes tons of money reporting bad things about him? If the media was fair, everyone would know that the good things Michael has done outweighs the speculations by far.

ROFL. He's a sicko, it's as easy to see as ABC.

ROFL. Easy to see as ABC? Or easy to believe as ABC? It's very easy to BELIEVE he's a sicko. But if you actually researched the stuff that they don't tell you on the news you would probably think he's innocent, unless you're some ignorant person who thinks just because he's weird that makes him guilty.

It's easy to see, there is something very wrong with micheal jackson. I have done some moderate research, have you?

 

[EndlessDennis]

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: EndlessDennis

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: EndlessDennis

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Grunt03
I think he is guilty

Guilty of what???????????????????????????????????????????????

Child molestation...duh.

Glad to know that the judge in the Michael Jackson trial is with us. But on the serious side, Jules, stop judging him. None of us are in a position to judge him. People hate Michael for all the wrong reasons. I just love people who believe all this media bullcrap about Michael Jackson. Don't you people know that the media makes tons of money reporting bad things about him? If the media was fair, everyone would know that the good things Michael has done outweighs the speculations by far.

ROFL. He's a sicko, it's as easy to see as ABC.

ROFL. Easy to see as ABC? Or easy to believe as ABC? It's very easy to BELIEVE he's a sicko. But if you actually researched the stuff that they don't tell you on the news you would probably think he's innocent, unless you're some ignorant person who thinks just because he's weird that makes him guilty.

It's easy to see, there is something very wrong with micheal jackson. I have done some moderate research, have you?

Micheal Jackson? You can't even spell his name right. That shows me you've done TONS of research.

 

[Grunt03]

bump, I will be back later once I finish reading all of the comments.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: EndlessDennis

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: EndlessDennis

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: EndlessDennis

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Grunt03
I think he is guilty

Guilty of what???????????????????????????????????????????????

Child molestation...duh.

Glad to know that the judge in the Michael Jackson trial is with us. But on the serious side, Jules, stop judging him. None of us are in a position to judge him. People hate Michael for all the wrong reasons. I just love people who believe all this media bullcrap about Michael Jackson. Don't you people know that the media makes tons of money reporting bad things about him? If the media was fair, everyone would know that the good things Michael has done outweighs the speculations by far.

ROFL. He's a sicko, it's as easy to see as ABC.

ROFL. Easy to see as ABC? Or easy to believe as ABC? It's very easy to BELIEVE he's a sicko. But if you actually researched the stuff that they don't tell you on the news you would probably think he's innocent, unless you're some ignorant person who thinks just because he's weird that makes him guilty.

It's easy to see, there is something very wrong with micheal jackson. I have done some moderate research, have you?

Micheal Jackson? You can't even spell his name right. That shows me you've done TONS of research.

Ha! So what? You clearly know who I am talking about! Quit spinning it, why do feel Michael Jackson is innocent?

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
one porn magazine (out of a case full of porn mags in the house) with both MJ's prints and the kid's prints.
conflicting accounts from 2 people (the accuser and his brother) on 2 episodes of "fondling" - which supposedly occurred AFTER the Martin Bashir documentary
allowing children to consume alcohol

that's all the evidence. it's not enough to convict, imo.

That's not all the evidence, they also have FIVE kids who claim to have been molested, some of them also paid off. They are going to testify according to news reports on Monday. It's not a videotape or smoking penis, to be sure, but multiple childrens' testimony to the same effect could *easily* be enough to convict.

And in all honesty, maybe they SHOULD convict. If he's guilty, he's *bad* guilty. If he's not, I hope he swears off of helping "unfortunate" children and never gives anyone another dime.

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

I tell you what, though. If he'd pay me off with $30 million, I'd let him molest ALL my orifices all damn day long

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: sandorski
Even if MJ was/is completely innocent of these charges, the guy's a freakin freak. He's the perfect example of why Child Labour laws are needed and should be strictly enforced.

no, he's not a perfect example of why child labor laws are needed.

MacDonald's and Walmart are perfect examples of why child labor laws are needed and required.

yes, he's odd. do you think he should be locked up for that?

Your claim is *every* bit as absurd as his. At least in the US, neither Mcdonalds nor Wal Mart nor ANY OTHER company hires or abuses underage workers.

Pot meet kettle!

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Grunt03
I think he is guilty

Guilty of what???????????????????????????????????????????????

Umm...the crime he's accused of maybe? Ummm.....Duh?

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Zedtom
I expect to see him jump bail and land up in some country seeking asylum, claiming that he is being persecuted because of his religious beliefs or skin color.

Yeah, they're after him because he used to be black

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Credibility it blown for the accuser and his family. Admitting they lied earlier doesnt help.

True, but you have to admit, Michael himself has blown a lot of credibility by paying past accusers for their silence.

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Grunt03
I think he is guilty

Guilty of what???????????????????????????????????????????????

Child molestation...duh.

and what do you mean by "child molestation"? Rape? Oral sex? Anal sex? There is an alarming lack of specifics in this thread.

Are you being intentionally obtuse? You know full well by now that he's being accused specifically of masturbating this kid on at least two occasions while simultaneously jerking HIMSELF off.

Jason

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
I tell you what, though. If he'd pay me off with $30 million, I'd let him molest ALL my orifices all damn day long

Jason

Fvck that, I need college money! $500 for books is all I need!

 

[Grunt03]

I think everyone has stated their opinion well, so better than others. It has really helped me take a deeper look at the entire situation.

 

[stratman]

Originally posted by: Grunt03
I think everyone has stated their opinion well, so better than others. It has really helped me take a deeper look at the entire situation.

Yeah I'm so much more knowledgable about the situation now. I didn't know there was so much involved before.

Both sides here were articulate and passionate, mad props guys, I changed my mind after every second post. And then there was the humourous third side

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: sandorski
Even if MJ was/is completely innocent of these charges, the guy's a freakin freak. He's the perfect example of why Child Labour laws are needed and should be strictly enforced.

no, he's not a perfect example of why child labor laws are needed.

MacDonald's and Walmart are perfect examples of why child labor laws are needed and required.

yes, he's odd. do you think he should be locked up for that?

Your claim is *every* bit as absurd as his. At least in the US, neither Mcdonalds nor Wal Mart nor ANY OTHER company hires or abuses underage workers.

Pot meet kettle!

Jason

& that would be because... of child labor laws. duh!

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: aidanjm
one porn magazine (out of a case full of porn mags in the house) with both MJ's prints and the kid's prints.
conflicting accounts from 2 people (the accuser and his brother) on 2 episodes of "fondling" - which supposedly occurred AFTER the Martin Bashir documentary
allowing children to consume alcohol

that's all the evidence. it's not enough to convict, imo.

That's not all the evidence, they also have FIVE kids who claim to have been molested, some of them also paid off. They are going to testify according to news reports on Monday. It's not a videotape or smoking penis, to be sure, but multiple childrens' testimony to the same effect could *easily* be enough to convict.

And in all honesty, maybe they SHOULD convict. If he's guilty, he's *bad* guilty. If he's not, I hope he swears off of helping "unfortunate" children and never gives anyone another dime.

Jason

Well, no, the prosecutors don't have 5 kids who claim to have been molested. 2 of the 5 claim NOT to have been molested. In one case, it is the parents claiming the kid was molested (the child says it didn't happen; this kid has sued for emancipation from the parents). None of these 5 cases were strong enough to prosecute on their own.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
MJ wears lipstick, affects an artificially high female voice, wears a woman's wig, hates the fact he was born black (self hate), and was so fearful of his father that he used to vomit sometimes at the mere sight of him.

So fvcking what?

How does any of the above shed any light, whatsoever, on the question at hand (whether he sexually molested the kid)?

It shows that Micheal is unsatsified with him self and will goto extreme measures to correct it. This shows that he has abused himself and his more than likely abused. We know form millions of cases of abuse, that abuses often become abusers.

People who are sexually abused as children are at risk of becoming abusers.

However people who self-harm (e.g., cut themselves) or are addicted to plastic surgery are not at any higher risk of sexually molesting children. Your link between plastic surgery addiction, a "feminine" voice, use of make-up, self-loathing, etc. AND pedophilia is totally spurious.

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
I dont even want to think about what goes on in the bathtub with "daddy" at bath time for these little darlin's. And I have yet to see any plausible explanation for the third baby he has "aquired". How about a DNA test for all three????
(Dont hold your breath).

Of course, another possibility is that nothing untoward goes on at bath time. What evidence do you have that he is sexually molesting his own kids?

In the Martin Bashir documentary, his kids (what little you saw of them) appeared to be pretty happy.

He's molestings kids? He held his newborn child of a balcony in germany! ONE HANDED!

That is irresponsible or thoughtless behavior. You can't equate that kind of irresponsibility or thoughtlessness with the sexual molestation of children.

Originally posted by: Tabb
It's a documentary, what do you expect?

Bashir didn't pull his punches in other parts of the documentary. But I am offering you my impressions of his kids, based on their outward appearance. (i.e., they appeared carefree, untroubled, they looked like they were thriving).

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
The current accusers brother not only described his erect penis, but also the fact he has white splotches on it and his butt.

Yes, and you, and Tabb, and others have also accurately described MJ's penis. Were you, Tabb, etc. molested by MJ? Or perhaps you read a description of his penis on the web like everyonbe else. Keep in mind, there were descriptions of his penis in the public domain prior to this trial.

The photos of his penis where needed to see if kids would be able to describe. Which infact they did. Tell me why in the fvcking hell young kids have seen Jackson's Johnson and his ass?

Which kids are these? Are you talking about the current case?