The Leftovers on HBO

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Pr0d1gy

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Still no answers, just the steadily declining morality of a public who has witnessed hundreds of millions of their own just vanish. This last episode was very intriguing to me as the Guilty Remnant are an interesting group that I am very curious about.

As I said before though, they can't get away with the "we don't know what happened" crap for too long with this show. This guy said it the best:
The problem with not going into how and why the event happened, is that it makes it pointless to call bullshit on anything strange that happens in the show because hey, in this world people can vanish in the blink of an eye!
 

Wingznut

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I have absolutely no problem with them not explaining how the event occurred. Similarly, the creator of The Walking Dead has gone on record to say how that event occurred will never be explained. If they were to try and explain, it just wouldn't seem plausible.

The Leftovers is not about the event. It's about the people and how they deal in the aftermath.
 

Phoenix86

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I have absolutely no problem with them not explaining how the event occurred. Similarly, the creator of The Walking Dead has gone on record to say how that event occurred will never be explained. If they were to try and explain, it just wouldn't seem plausible.

The Leftovers is not about the event. It's about the people and how they deal in the aftermath.
The couple episodes I watched raised several questions about events after, and based on this thread they aren't answering those questions either.

The initial event being a mystery is OK, but adding layer upon layer of additional mysteries (which also never get answered) is par for the course for this writer.
 

Anubis

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I have absolutely no problem with them not explaining how the event occurred. Similarly, the creator of The Walking Dead has gone on record to say how that event occurred will never be explained. If they were to try and explain, it just wouldn't seem plausible.

The Leftovers is not about the event. It's about the people and how they deal in the aftermath.

im with you on this. I don't care what happened,
 

TeeJay1952

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When we watch a tv show or read a book or even (and maybe especially) read a comic book, we are the engine that brings the pieces together. The various media stimulate the imagine in all of us and we supply the details to our satisfaction in our minds.
I can't be sure but I think that different folks have different imagine abilities or at least have different points of view.
Some are delighted when gore takes place "off screen" while others feel cheated when that occurs. Some like the hint of the mysterious while others insist on a if not reality at least a grounded version that remains faithful to itself.
Some like M Night Shyamalan others revile him. Leftovers is like that. Sample and enjoy or move on. There is no correct answer only the right answer for you.
Me? I am 5 weeks behind and look forward to forming my own opinion. I usually watch at least 3 episodes to get characters, writing and direction to settle in before I decide.
 

smackababy

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Still watching. Still not particularly interested in how it happened. I really hate that all white cult as well as the sheriff's kid. Such pieces of crap!

Also, if a cult broke into my house and stole my pictures, I'd go to the HQ and murder enough of them they stopped being a cult.
 

Phoenix86

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May 21, 2003
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When we watch a tv show or read a book or even (and maybe especially) read a comic book, we are the engine that brings the pieces together. The various media stimulate the imagine in all of us and we supply the details to our satisfaction in our minds.
I can't be sure but I think that different folks have different imagine abilities or at least have different points of view.
Some are delighted when gore takes place "off screen" while others feel cheated when that occurs. Some like the hint of the mysterious while others insist on a if not reality at least a grounded version that remains faithful to itself.
Some like M Night Shyamalan others revile him. Leftovers is like that. Sample and enjoy or move on. There is no correct answer only the right answer for you.
Me? I am 5 weeks behind and look forward to forming my own opinion. I usually watch at least 3 episodes to get characters, writing and direction to settle in before I decide.
There's a difference between mysterious and a plot hole. It's clear in some cases the writer doesn't know what's going to happen.

We're not talking about a case where the viewers have enough information to make decisions, because the writers can't provide that information, it doesn't exist.

There's other times where something is mysterious, but since the writers have it basically planned out, they are able to leaving meaningful clues, or even deceive the viewer. You are baited along the path, because a path exists.
 

DesiPower

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Very Dark and emotionally heavy show, something that would keep haunting me, gave up after the 1st episode, not my piece of cake
 

Pr0d1gy

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There's a difference between mysterious and a plot hole.

This. It does matter, and the Guilty Remnant know more than they are letting on. I am more interested now than I was a couple of weeks ago, but they will lose me quick if they don't at least start hypothesizing what happened soon.
 

zinfamous

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this show gets dumber every episode. I kinda watch it in the background, but I lost interest with episode 2 or so.
 

seepy83

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Why are you (some of you) so focused on what the "event" was? Are you familiar with the religious concept of the Rapture? At this point, I think viewers are supposed to assume that's what happened, but be curious if that's a correct assumption.
 

MongGrel

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I'm still a bit torn on this show on how good it is, but I keep watching it when I thought I wouldn't be.

It might turn out like the Wire, which I still have never watched, and became really good long run, from everything I'd ever read.

It has kept me tuning in to watch it.
 

Wingznut

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Why are you (some of you) so focused on what the "event" was? Are you familiar with the religious concept of the Rapture? At this point, I think viewers are supposed to assume that's what happened, but be curious if that's a correct assumption.
Well, that's what the Father is trying to disprove, by providing evidence that many of those who disappeared were not morally worthy of being part of a rapture.
 

seepy83

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Well, that's what the Father is trying to disprove, by providing evidence that many of those who disappeared were not morally worthy of being part of a rapture.

Exactly...so why not take the show and plot-line for what it is and see how it plays out? The concept of wanting an explanation for the "event" this early in the story just seems ridiculous to me.
 

Wingznut

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Exactly...so why not take the show and plot-line for what it is and see how it plays out? The concept of wanting an explanation for the "event" this early in the story just seems ridiculous to me.
Oh, you and I are on the same page on that. Like I said, I'd rather never have an explanation for the irrational event.
 

pyonir

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The title of the show even tells you what it's going to be about. The Leftovers. Not the taken. Not the event. What happens to the people left behind.

I can understand the side that needs to know what the event was and can't watch past a certain point without that being known. I'm the opposite, I'm okay with it never being explained because I'm interested in the stories presented about those that were left behind just as much.
 

smackababy

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I think the point of them not really hinting at what happened (except for the false rapture notions, which would come up if this did happen) is because, nobody in the show knows. They aren't giving the viewers more information than the characters, and that is a good thing. Up until last episode, we weren't even sure if that dog killing guy was real or not.

This isn't a show about some supernatural event that caused 10% of the population to disappear. This is a show about people who experienced <insert life altering plot device nobody can explain> and their lives afterwards.

And holy fuck I hate the Guilty Remnant. What a bunch of pretentious assholes. I hope they all get murdered, including the sheriff's wise and beautiful woman of a wife.
 

Gunslinger08

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I'm wondering if it's as simple as "everyone is in purgatory, but God has abandoned them"? The Departed are those who were already judged - good or bad. Some of those left behind think they're being tested, but they're really just on their own. The GR knows this and refuses to participate. The Asian girl is pregnant with a new savior that will make God care about the world again. The hugger guy and animals - I have no idea.
 

smackababy

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I really hope that Asian girl turns out to just be a victim of a pedophile cult leader and nothing more than that, you know because of realism.

The GR are just a bunch of idiots who refuse to actually morn and act like assholes. I mean, they even act like that towards the sheriff, show is pretty much the only person that gives a shit if they are all stoned to death or not.
 

GrumpyMan

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I have tried to like this show and am still watching...but I thought if God did execute a rapture that he would cast the "Leftovers" into hell and not just leave them on Earth to live day to day as if nothing happened. What is God doing, stocking up on Angels so they can fight Satan and everybody else that is left just goes to McDonald's and continues on? I just don't get where the writer is going with this one and it's getting kind of boring now. And Lost pissed me off.
 

Gunslinger08

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So after reading about the book that the show is based on.. I'm not sure I really want to keep watching this show. I would recommend you don't read about it if you're happy with what the show is right now. If you are expecting actual answers.. maybe quit watching.
 

Anubis

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I really hope that Asian girl turns out to just be a victim of a pedophile cult leader and nothing more than that, you know because of realism.

The GR are just a bunch of idiots who refuse to actually morn and act like assholes. I mean, they even act like that towards the sheriff, show is pretty much the only person that gives a shit if they are all stoned to death or not.

the sheriff only cares because his wife is one of them, and I suspect he stops caring pretty soon

also
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smackababy

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the sheriff only cares because his wife is one of them, and I suspect he stops caring pretty soon

I have no illusions that is the only reason he cares. But, that is still more reasons than the rest of the town combined. And, I can totally see him banging the chick that lost her whole family, possibly the daughter's friend that is always at his house as well.