The Left?s Secret Pact: Subverting the War on Terror

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Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I will be involved locally since at this level people have not always sold their soul, and it is possible to influence outcomes. They still have to go with Dem or Rep since there is no other choice now is there? I mean a choice of who people will really vote for.

True, at the local level you're more likely to find someone who isn't woring themselves out 24/7.

Depressed? Not seriously.

I think disgusted is a good word.

Ah, was kind of curious about what stage you were at.

Another truth. As a whole, people are too stupid to have a real functional democracy. People really don't want to make choices. They want a King. Maybe that king changes faces and parties, but a King nonetheless. Maybe it's in the genes, us being a social species with dominant and submissive roles. Kind of like dogs. Dogs are more loyal though.

Heh...I suspect that unless you regain your, err, 'faith' in humanity, you're not more than a few years from apathy. Eventually you'll get tired of being disgusted, and, well, I suspect you know what happens after that.

Or am I reading to much into you posts? :p

Heh probably. Funny thing though. It is said Truth is Beauty, but at times it's an ugly bastard no one wants to claim :p

I think as I get older I tend to view things with historical context thrown in.

Supposedly Ho Chi Min (could be wrong here) was asked in an interview what he thought of the French Revolution. His answer was "It's too soon to tell".

I don't know if it's true, but I understand what he means.

Anyway, time will tell, right?

 

JackStorm

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Funny thing though. It is said Truth is Beauty, but at times it's an ugly bastard no one wants to claim :p

Oddly enough, I have no problem claiming the ugly bastard.

Supposedly Ho Chi Min (could be wrong here) was asked in an interview what he thought of the French Revolution. His answer was "It's too soon to tell".

I don't know if it's true, but I understand what he means.

Hrm...If those were his words, then it would seem he was a thinker.

Anyway, time will tell, right?

Indeed. And I can only wish you good luck.
 

azazyel

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Another truth. As a whole, people are too stupid to have a real functional democracy. People really don't want to make choices. They want a King. Maybe that king changes faces and parties, but a King nonetheless. Maybe it's in the genes, us being a social species with dominant and submissive roles. Kind of like dogs. Dogs are more loyal though.

I actually agree with this. You would think that if people really cared about what was going on in their country they would pay more attention to the local level. From what I have seen more people are interested in Federal Politics far more than at the local level which is sad. We have a lot more power over our state government but we don't always seem to use it.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Interesting read. I know most hate to say or, or wouldnt agree with it, but I think it rings pretty damned true. The Left wishes America destroyed, in every way possible. Maybe not destroyed as in left as a burned out hull, but rather in its ideas. The Left hates the idea of a free people, The Left hates the idea of people not fully under the yoke of a Socialist government.
Spewcrap 007, you give OT a bad name, something which only a primitive retard like yourself could possibly do. And don't get too proud of your 007 IQ, it won't even get you on the short bus.



 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Interesting read. I know most hate to say or, or wouldnt agree with it, but I think it rings pretty damned true. The Left wishes America destroyed, in every way possible... blah, blah, blah...
If you expect credibility for a moronic post like that, you should post a direct link to the original ariticle, instead of an forum post on a spew site like fsckfrance.com.

Then, before posting it, you may want to consider the credibility of what the article says. If you believe spew like that, you also believe the check's in the mail and the dog ate your homework.

If that's the best you've got to back your lame opinion, go back to OT. :roll:
 

Todd33

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People, why do you feed the trolls? This is not a legitimate article to debate, you only give these people what they desperately are trying to get from their mommies, attention.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Interesting read. I know most hate to say or, or wouldnt agree with it, but I think it rings pretty damned true. The Left wishes America destroyed, in every way possible... blah, blah, blah...
If you expect credibility for a moronic post like that, you should post a direct link to the original ariticle, instead of an forum post on a spew site like fsckfrance.com.

Then, before posting it, you may want to consider the credibility of what the articls says. If you believe spew like that, you also believe the check's in the mail and the dog ate your homework.

If that's the best you've got to back your lame opinion, go back to OT. :roll:
americanthinker.com

wow, pretty scary.
 

Taejin

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lol is Specop 007 for real? Sometimes I have trouble believing you guys aren't joking..lol.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Taejin
lol is Specop 007 for real? Sometimes I have trouble believing you guys aren't joking..lol.
He's proof positive that playing Splinter Cell 16 hours a day is detrimental to your mental health.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Czar
this is such a flamebait
You expect anything else from Kiddie Gamer named Specop 007?

Still the same old dumbass from years ago I see.

Years ago? Hmmmm signed up 1/31/05. Interesting.

Mods.... which banned troll is this? (Referring to Specop)

One which should be given a vacation due to the insult issued above.

Maybe, in your ignorance, you missed everyone elses insults.
Not suprising.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Taejin
lol is Specop 007 for real? Sometimes I have trouble believing you guys aren't joking..lol.
He's proof positive that playing Splinter Cell 16 hours a day is detrimental to your mental health.

And your proof positive the ability to type doesnt equate to the ability to post anything but spam and neff and troll it up around here.
 

Braznor

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Don't mind it, Specop 007

The standard left wing trick is to demonise the opposition with slurs like 'retard' 'dumb' 'fascist' and so on. You see, it all comes from the sand where they have just buried their collective heads.

I have seen (and still seeing) how my nation is betrayed by the left. I only hope yours do not share the same fate. There is a term for the trolls who are insulting you in this forum i.e 'useful idiots'

You can look it up in wikipedia
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Braznor
Don't mind it, Specop 007

The standard left wing trick is to demonise the opposition with slurs like 'retard' 'dumb' 'fascist' and so on. You see, it all comes from the sand where they have just buried their collective heads.

I have seen (and still seeing) how my nation is betrayed by the left. I only hope yours do not share the same fate. There is a term for the trolls who are insulting you in this forum i.e 'useful idiots'

You can look it up in wikipedia

:cookie:
 

her209

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The funny thing about the so-called party of personal responsibility is that they seem to blame everything that goes wrong on everyone else but themselves.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Braznor
Don't mind it, Specop 007

The standard left wing trick is to demonise the opposition with slurs like 'retard' 'dumb' 'fascist' and so on. You see, it all comes from the sand where they have just buried their collective heads.

I have seen (and still seeing) how my nation is betrayed by the left. I only hope yours do not share the same fate. There is a term for the trolls who are insulting you in this forum i.e 'useful idiots'

You can look it up in wikipedia

Right Wing trick as well. See OP for proof.
 

arsbanned

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Taejin
lol is Specop 007 for real? Sometimes I have trouble believing you guys aren't joking..lol.
He's proof positive that playing Splinter Cell 16 hours a day is detrimental to your mental health.

Sheesh! Another zing from Red Dawn. You're on fire today baby!

Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Braznor
Don't mind it, Specop 007

The standard left wing trick is to demonise the opposition with slurs like 'retard' 'dumb' 'fascist' and so on. You see, it all comes from the sand where they have just buried their collective heads.

I have seen (and still seeing) how my nation is betrayed by the left. I only hope yours do not share the same fate. There is a term for the trolls who are insulting you in this forum i.e 'useful idiots'

You can look it up in wikipedia

Right Wing trick as well. See OP for proof.

Preach it, brother. :thumbsup:
 

marincounty

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But the points I made about the Left are their actual talking points. They go up to the podium and tell people these things. They say they want more social programs. Flat out say it. They hint at wealth redistribution, and its a strong talking point in their campaigns.

FYI GWB pushed a medicare drug benefit that has a future liability greater than the
Social Security fiasco-SOCIAL PROGRAM

What are tax cuts for the rich, if not wealth redistribution? -WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION
I always wondered why Republicans, who are always claiming they value hard work, don't push for lower taxes on EARNED income, as in wages. They have reduced capital gains taxes and dividend income taxes a lot, so a rich person with lots of stocks but who doesn't actually work pays almost nothing, while some poor person with a regular job
who pays rent has to pay a very high tax rate. Oh right, democrats are engaged in class warfare when they want to raise the minimum wage.

 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
The Left wishes America destroyed, in every way possible. Maybe not destroyed as in left as a burned out hull, but rather in its ideas. The Left hates the idea of a free people, The Left hates the idea of people not fully under the yoke of a Socialist government.

That's really stupid if you believe that. It just shows your inability to conceive of things beyond the superficial level.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Braznor
Don't mind it, Specop 007

The standard left wing trick is to demonise the opposition with slurs like 'retard' 'dumb' 'fascist' and so on. You see, it all comes from the sand where they have just buried their collective heads.

I have seen (and still seeing) how my nation is betrayed by the left. I only hope yours do not share the same fate. There is a term for the trolls who are insulting you in this forum i.e 'useful idiots'

You can look it up in wikipedia

Hahahaha, classic humor!
 

Tangerines

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Specop, I hope to God that you're not serious about this. How anyone could believe such a load of horseshit is beyond me.
 

glenn1

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Tell me again liberals dont want America destroyed.

The vast, vast majority of them don't want America destroyed. If this article is meant to be talking about the fringe kook extreme, the leftist equivalent of the Idaho miltia (like the ELF gang, etc) then I won't outright disagree but then you're probably only talking about 1% of the population if not less (probably a lot less). That's not to say that many on the left don't have some spectacularly stupid ideas of what would make America "better," but that's what the political process is about.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Hmm.. The author's idea of capitalism is misguided. Does capitalism involve government favoritism?

Actually yes. The government is there to serve the people. People are corporations. So in a round about way, capitalism does involve favoritism because government gets the majority (all) of its money from corporations in one way or another.

governments gets ALL its money from people in one way or another.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: Genx87
The irony is the first people the Soviets or the Islamic terrorists would target for erradication are the people on the left.

I think the terrorists would startoff by detonating a nuke right in hollywood to clean it out.


Genx, tell me you're more reasonable than your post. I hope you don't agree w/ that wackjob SPecop 007. The idea that liberals hate America is about as dumb as conservatives hating America.

I think people on extremes of both spectrums hate America, because America doesnt fit their ideology.

While I dont know if Kennedy hates America, he has done a fine job of subverting this war for short term political game.

and many on the right aren't equally or more guilty?
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Yep, just as I thought. A whole pack of "Lets be Socialists!". You know people, there *are* countries in existance where you could move to and have your every socialist dream fufilled.

Its also obvious you people havent read the article. Or if you have, you do not agree with it. However, you still support the ideals discussed in the article which either makes you liars or ignorant followers. I'm just not sure which yet.
Yeah right, if we don't see the vast conspiracy to destroy America from the Left we ourselves must be Commie Sympathizers:roll:

Considering its PLAIN AS DAY....You tell me......
You see the thing is it's not "Plain as Day" at least from a viewpoint that's not of your lower intestinal tract.

So tell me again, since you STILL HAVENT ANSWERED....
What are the Democratic talking points and agenda?

Is or is it not disamring the citizens?
Is or is it not larger social programs?
Is or is it not wealth redistribution?

Every time I see a Democrat trying to get re-elected all I hear is how theres unfair tax breaks for the rich (Welath redistribution), how the poor suffer from taxes (wealth redistribution), how the poor need more affordable healthcare and food (Social programs) and how they want to make the streets safer (disarmament).

Do the math man. Its plain as 2+2=4. You just refuse to admit it.

and how are tax cuts not wealth redistribution? it can go both ways, which would you perfer?
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Braznor
Don't mind it, Specop 007

The standard left wing trick is to demonise the opposition with slurs like 'retard' 'dumb' 'fascist' and so on. You see, it all comes from the sand where they have just buried their collective heads.

I have seen (and still seeing) how my nation is betrayed by the left. I only hope yours do not share the same fate. There is a term for the trolls who are insulting you in this forum i.e 'useful idiots'

You can look it up in wikipedia

and how is that different from calling someone "traitor" or "communist" etc etc?