The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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Starbuck1975

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His shtick is to pretend that Democrats were advocating for believing everything a woman said regardless of other circumstances and then concern trolling them based on his made up description of their position.
That’s just the new goal post Democrats adopted to rationalize smearing Reade.
 

fskimospy

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What does that have to do with the corroborated accusations against Biden?
We already talked about this and I’m still waiting to hear back about any evidence that Biden committed sexual assault that isn’t based on what Tara Reade told someone.

It should be obvious why her personal honesty in other matters is highly relevant, absent this evidence.
 

Starbuck1975

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We already talked about this and I’m still waiting to hear back about any evidence that Biden committed sexual assault that isn’t based on what Tara Reade told someone.

It should be obvious why her personal honesty in other matters is highly relevant, absent this evidence.
Democrats advocated for a standard where that is the only evidence required. She isn’t just making an allegation. Its an allegation consistently corroborated over a period of years by multiple people who have no political motive to lie.

Now, suddenly Democrats want due process.
 

HomerJS

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No, Democrats have used the standard playbook against women that the #metoo movement sought to address.
Tell it to Sen. Al Frankin.

Again, for the umpteenth time, changing your story 3 times destroys your own credibility.

Dr. Ford only had one version.
 

fskimospy

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Democrats advocated for a standard where that is the only evidence required.

False. Like I said, your whole shtick here is to lie about the standard people wanted to use and then concern troll them about it.

She isn’t just making an allegation. Its an allegation consistently corroborated over a period of years by multiple people who have no political motive to lie.

False. 100% of the evidence offered is 'Tara Reade said this'. (also, what Tara Reade has said has also apparently shifted over time, haha)

One. Hundred. Percent.

Now, suddenly Democrats want due process.

They want the same thing they always wanted, accusations to be investigated. Turns out this person is a grifter who has changed her story multiple times and has a history of deception so common sense says she needs more evidence than just her word on this. Conveniently, exactly zero evidence of anything that's not her word on this can be located.
 
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VRAMdemon

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PBS NewsHour tracked down and interviewed 74 former Biden staffers:

The PBS NewsHour spoke with 74 former Biden staffers, of whom 62 were women, in order to get a broader picture of his behavior toward women over the course of his career, how they see the new allegation, and whether there was evidence of a larger pattern.

None of the people interviewed said that they had experienced sexual harassment, assault or misconduct by Biden. All said they never heard any rumors or allegations of Biden engaging in sexual misconduct, until the recent assault allegation made by Tara Reade. Former staffers said they believed Reade should be heard, and acknowledged that their experiences do not disprove her accusation.

Most people didn't remember Reade, those who did remembered her poor job performance leading to her dismissal and question her account of being asked to serve drinks. The article also notes that, while Biden did use the gym in the Capitol, his route to and from the gym was well known and "A recent walk through that area showed the subway tunnel contains no out-of-view areas, like an alcove" as Reade claims she was assaulted in.
 
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fskimospy

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PBS NewsHour tracked down and interviewed 74 former Biden staffers:

Most people didn't remember Reade, those who did remembered her poor job performance leading to her dismissal and question her account of being asked to serve drinks. The article also notes that, while Biden did use the gym in the Capitol, his route to and from the gym was well known and "A recent walk through that area showed the subway tunnel contains no out-of-view areas, like an alcove" as Reade claims she was assaulted in.

Amazing how not even one person who would have been witness to those events or those like it backs her up. Not a single one.
 

eelw

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Lol and if Biden were to release those records, she can sue him for breaching privacy laws
 

fskimospy

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I'm saying that Documentation would be more reliable and definitive.

Since Reade claims to have her employment records she’s free to release that at any time.

Why do you think it is that not a single person from the office can be found that agrees with her? Again, are they all lying?
 

Jhhnn

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None of the rest of it matters once a person sees the profound dishonesty of her stealth edit of her Medium post. A story specifically *not* about sexual misconduct suddenly became one that she claims always was. That's grounds for dismissal under any rational standard. The notion that she's not lying is absurd & further reinforced by lame assertions of facts only she can document. Only she can produce the employment records she claims to hold. Only she can obtain the records of any complaint or counseling request she filed with the Senate at the time. Only she can take a polygraph test. None of that will ever happen, I'm sure.
 

fskimospy

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PBS NewsHour tracked down and interviewed 74 former Biden staffers:


Most people didn't remember Reade, those who did remembered her poor job performance leading to her dismissal and question her account of being asked to serve drinks. The article also notes that, while Biden did use the gym in the Capitol, his route to and from the gym was well known and "A recent walk through that area showed the subway tunnel contains no out-of-view areas, like an alcove" as Reade claims she was assaulted in.
Seriously though, people should read this. It’s about as thorough a refutation of this charge as we are ever likely to get.

No one corroborates her complaints and of those who remember her they say the things she chalked you to sexual harassment (admonishment for inappropriate attire and termination) were because she was actually dressed inappropriately and because she was bad at her job.
 

Starbuck1975

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False. Like I said, your whole shtick here is to lie about the standard people wanted to use and then concern troll them about it.
If only we didn’t have numerous quotes from Democrats during the Kavanaugh hearings, to include from Biden himself, that state otherwise.

Democrats are being held to the standard they advocated. Biden himself stated that if you believe Reade, you shouldn’t vote for him. 30% of Democrat voters believe Reade.

False. 100% of the evidence offered is 'Tara Reade said this'. (also, what Tara Reade has said has also apparently shifted over time, haha)

One. Hundred. Percent.
So we’re not believing women anymore. #metoo got sold out. Two. Hundred. Percent.

They want the same thing they always wanted, accusations to be investigated. Turns out this person is a grifter who has changed her story multiple times and has a history of deception so common sense says she needs more evidence than just her word on this. Conveniently, exactly zero evidence of anything that's not her word on this can be located.
You need an investigation to find evidence. Her lawyers have requested access to Biden’s files, so the investigation is ongoing.
 

eelw

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Holy crap Biden haters. We are suspicious of her story. PERIOD!!! Not that we only believe women when politically convenient.
 
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Jhhnn

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If only we didn’t have numerous quotes from Democrats during the Kavanaugh hearings, to include from Biden himself, that state otherwise.

Democrats are being held to the standard they advocated. Biden himself stated that if you believe Reade, you shouldn’t vote for him. 30% of Democrat voters believe Reade.

So we’re not believing women anymore. #metoo got sold out. Two. Hundred. Percent.

You need an investigation to find evidence. Her lawyers have requested access to Biden’s files, so the investigation is ongoing.

And there's still the minor matter where she got caught lying about it from the start. That's right- lying. So, uhh, if this means that the #metoo people need to recalibrate, it's probably a good thing.
 

pauldun170

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PBS NewsHour tracked down and interviewed 74 former Biden staffers:



Most people didn't remember Reade, those who did remembered her poor job performance leading to her dismissal and question her account of being asked to serve drinks. The article also notes that, while Biden did use the gym in the Capitol, his route to and from the gym was well known and "A recent walk through that area showed the subway tunnel contains no out-of-view areas, like an alcove" as Reade claims she was assaulted in.

I read that article and it reinforces my view that Starbuck and Sandorski will not read it nor will they care what anybody says.
Even Reade.
I believe that if Reade were to come out tomorrow and say she lied on National television, showing receipts and everything, Starbuck and Sandorski would call her a liar about lying and that Biden is definitely guilty of grabbing by the pussy because he touches peoples shoulders and stuff.

Thats my 2 cents..
 

fskimospy

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If only we didn’t have numerous quotes from Democrats during the Kavanaugh hearings, to include from Biden himself, that state otherwise.

Democrats are being held to the standard they advocated. Biden himself stated that if you believe Reade, you shouldn’t vote for him. 30% of Democrat voters believe Reade.

False again. Please provide a quote where they said women should be believed regardless of other information. If not, please apologize for lying about their position.

As for 30% of Democrats believing Reade expect that to crater after this report that shows she’s full of shit.

So we’re not believing women anymore. #metoo got sold out. Two. Hundred. Percent.

You’re doing it again.

You need an investigation to find evidence. Her lawyers have requested access to Biden’s files, so the investigation is ongoing.
She said she has her personnel files. Are you saying she was lying?