The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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fskimospy

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Peachy. Did Ford ever stealth edit her own words from "not about sexual misconduct" to "not only about sexual misconduct"? The whole argument wrt Reade now rests on the absurd premise that those mean the same thing when they obviously don't. She's busted.
I hadn’t seen that. Can you link?

If that’s the case that’s really bad, makes her into a liar.
 

Jhhnn

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I hadn’t seen that. Can you link?

If that’s the case that’s really bad, makes her into a liar.

I posted it much earlier in the thread-


Stone cold busted.
 
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woolfe9998

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I posted it much earlier in the thread-


Stone cold busted.

She sure did. Had missed that earlier.

The thing is, she didn't just add new pieces to her story, which does happen with assault victims. Instead, she changed it from saying she wasn't sexually assaulted to saying she was.
 

UNCjigga

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I hadn’t seen that. Can you link?

If that’s the case that’s really bad, makes her into a liar.

He linked earlier in the thread:

Basically, this moves me from “her story is plausible, but we’ll likely never know the truth” to “I’m not sure everything happened the way she said it did”. Could Biden have made a pass at her? Absolutely. Was it unwelcome and an abuse of his power over a subordinate? Probably. Did he grab her by the pussy? I don’t think so. Is this worth dumping Biden for another nominee (who didn’t earn the primary votes?) Of course not.
 

theeedude

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Maybe Biden moved on her like a bitch, grabbed her by the pussy, and because he's famous she let him do it without filling a police report. Or maybe not. She said, he said. I think I would want at least an explanation for the 5 different reasons she gave for why she left Washington, including her love of Russia, and the effusive love letters to Putin she posted in the run-up to the accusations, before I consider her even remotely credible. I am sorry, but anything that involves both Putin and our presidential elections raises my index of suspicion. I don't believe in coincidences anymore. We are hopefully going to get to the truth.
 

theeedude

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She also deleted her old Medium posts where she said she left Washington to pursue acting, her love of Russia, and dislike of American government. And posts praising Putin. She does not seem to understand how the internet works. Her handlers should have trained her better, this is amateur hour.
 

sandorski

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I posted it much earlier in the thread-


Stone cold busted.
She sure did. Had missed that earlier.

The thing is, she didn't just add new pieces to her story, which does happen with assault victims. Instead, she changed it from saying she wasn't sexually assaulted to saying she was.
He linked earlier in the thread:

Basically, this moves me from “her story is plausible, but we’ll likely never know the truth” to “I’m not sure everything happened the way she said it did”. Could Biden have made a pass at her? Absolutely. Was it unwelcome and an abuse of his power over a subordinate? Probably. Did he grab her by the pussy? I don’t think so. Is this worth dumping Biden for another nominee (who didn’t earn the primary votes?) Of course not.

Take note, all of you: the very first line in that synopsis is deceiving. This is what She wrote in the Unedited version - "But this is not a story about sexual misconduct; it is a story about abuse of power. "

Also note: Psychology Today
 

sandorski

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If anyone is interested, Tara Reade Interview, interview of her Neighbour, Discussion of the Complaint, few other tidbits

 

Jhhnn

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Take note, all of you: the very first line in that synopsis is deceiving. This is what She wrote in the Unedited version - "But this is not a story about sexual misconduct; it is a story about abuse of power. "

Also note: Psychology Today

So dishonest. "Not" and "not only" have opposite meanings. She denied sexual impropriety in the first version & claimed it happened in the second. The last edit was on the day she accused Biden of grabbing her pussy. She apparently didn't realize that the edit wouldn't affect the reprint of the Medium piece in The Union.

That's in addition to all the other flip-floppery she engaged in over the years-


She's a bullshitter, just making up the story on the fly.
 
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sandorski

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So dishonest. "Not" and "not only" have opposite meanings. She denied sexual impropriety in the first version & claimed it happened in the second. The last edit was on the day she accused Biden of grabbing her pussy. She apparently didn't realize that the edit wouldn't affect the reprint of the Medium piece in The Union.

That's in addition to all the other flip-floppery she engaged in over the years-


She's a bullshitter, just making up the story on the fly.


incorrect. Context bro.
 

Starbuck1975

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I think thats the problem. Democrats have standards but cant meet them. Republicans have standards and expect everyone else to meet them.
The problem is that both sides have standards...until those standards become politically inconvenient. That applies to fiscal conservatism, “moral majority” and metoo.
 

Starbuck1975

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I'm always amazed by the nihilistic idea that it's better to have no standards at all than it is to have standards but fall short of them.
I am not rejecting the standard. I am observing the hypocrisy of only applying said standard when politically opportunistic.
 

fskimospy

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She sure did. Had missed that earlier.

The thing is, she didn't just add new pieces to her story, which does happen with assault victims. Instead, she changed it from saying she wasn't sexually assaulted to saying she was.

Yeah, to me that moves this from ‘we can’t know but she has problems she needs to address’ to ‘probably a liar’.

Also the fact that Biden is pushing so aggressively for the national archives to release records indicates he thinks this is bullshit too.

If no harassment report can be found that would cement it for me that she’s a liar. If that’s the case it will be amusing to revisit this thread and see if anyone wants to make a retraction for their posts or their attempts to #bothsides this.
 

sandorski

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Yeah, to me that moves this from ‘we can’t know but she has problems she needs to address’ to ‘probably a liar’.

Also the fact that Biden is pushing so aggressively for the national archives to release records indicates he thinks this is bullshit too.

If no harassment report can be found that would cement it for me that she’s a liar. If that’s the case it will be amusing to revisit this thread and see if anyone wants to make a retraction for their posts or their attempts to #bothsides this.

Do you even English bro?
 

Jhhnn

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Do you even English bro?

Let's try an example- "This is not a story about sandorski being a goat fucker; it is a story about him being an obnoxious troll." versus "This is not only a story about sandorski being a goat fucker; it is a story about him being an obnoxious troll." Surely you can see the difference.
 

fskimospy

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David Axelrod has now weighed in, saying when they vetted Biden for the VP spot they found no formal complaints of sexual harassment, etc.

Yes it’s possible they missed it but VP vetting for national campaigns is serious business and very thorough. To me that makes it unlikely one exists. If it doesn’t exist what remains of her credibility is destroyed.
 

TheVrolok

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David Axelrod has now weighed in, saying when they vetted Biden for the VP spot they found no formal complaints of sexual harassment, etc.

Yes it’s possible they missed it but VP vetting for national campaigns is serious business and very thorough. To me that makes it unlikely one exists. If it doesn’t exist what remains of her credibility is destroyed.
Dude. Deep State destroyed the complaint. Prove me wrong. :colbert:
 

soundforbjt

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Her story has more holes than Swiss cheese. I'm thinking the Larry King call was probably her and not her mother.
 

sandorski

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Let's try an example- "This is not a story about sandorski being a goat fucker; it is a story about him being an obnoxious troll." versus "This is not only a story about sandorski being a goat fucker; it is a story about him being an obnoxious troll." Surely you can see the difference.

Do you see the difference? Your 2 examples are not Opposite statements. I literally am a Goat Fucker in both, but that is just not the important aspect about Me to You, the Writer.
 

fskimospy

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Do you see the difference? Your 2 examples are not Opposite statements. I literally am a Goat Fucker in both, but that is just not the important aspect about Me to You, the Writer.

She edited her story from saying ‘this is not about X’ to ‘this is about X’.

Even you have to admit that at the moment her story appears to be falling apart. If the national archives can not locate the complaint she claims she made will you admit she’s probably lying?
 

sandorski

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She edited her story from saying ‘this is not about X’ to ‘this is about X’.

Even you have to admit that at the moment her story appears to be falling apart. If the national archives can not locate the complaint she claims she made will you admit she’s probably lying?

No she did not. You have become a willing victim of a Quote Mine. Same tactic used by Science Deniers of all type. Just like a Climate Change Denier repeated attempts to explain it to you falls on deaf ears. Congrats Bro.