The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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sandorski

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Why wouldn't it? That's where the complaint she claims to have filed would be.

Why would it? If it was the only bit of verification that she mentioned such a thing, ok, it would be vital. However, she brought the issue up with other People around the time, 4 of which have verified that she mentioned it.
 

fskimospy

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Why wouldn't it? That's where the complaint she claims to have filed would be.
Apparently you missed the new version of the story which is that she filed it with the senate ethics office, which subsequently destroyed all its records of the complaint and then turned the sole remaining copy over to the person accused of the offense.
 

Vic

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The comparison is the behavior of both political parties within the context of how they’ve flip flopped out of political convenience.
Says the guy who has never once condemned the Republicans for electing the pussy grabber.
 

theeedude

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Apparently you missed the new version of the story which is that she filed it with the senate ethics office, which subsequently destroyed all its records of the complaint and then turned the sole remaining copy over to the person accused of the offense.
And she didn't make a copy for herself either. Or remember when and where it happened. Or bring it up until 25 years later. But it did happen, amirite?
 

Vic

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Apparently you missed the new version of the story which is that she filed it with the senate ethics office, which subsequently destroyed all its records of the complaint and then turned the sole remaining copy over to the person accused of the offense.
Ooh.. a closed-loop conspiracy theory.. the gullible extremists' favorite! Biden is going to be very unpopular with the anti-vax crowd.
 
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soundforbjt

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And she didn't make a copy for herself either. Or remember when and where it happened. Or bring it up until 25 years later. But it did happen, amirite?
Hey, if you can't believe a story being defended on Fox News, who can you trust?
 

Jhhnn

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Even if he fucked her, it would be Power Dynamics. I added a link to my previous Post from an Article in Psychology Today about it.

Her Edit does not Materially change her original statement. She even alludes to that there was more than just the things she states outright. Victims of Assault do not often just state all details, they usually trickle out the details over time.

So dishonest. In her original remarks, she actually denied that it was about sexual misconduct. After the edit, it was about sexual misconduct. She had to change her original story to support the later allegation. It's called lying.
 

sandorski

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So dishonest. In her original remarks, she actually denied that it was about sexual misconduct. After the edit, it was about sexual misconduct. She had to change her original story to support the later allegation. It's called lying.

I have addressed this. She originally used the idea that it was about Power, not Sex. Victims often do not give a full accounting of what occurred, hiding details out of Shame or Embarrassment, hoping to get some kind of Justice or some other sense of Closure with as little pain as possible. If you think I am full of shit, read some Psych papers on the subject or something.
 

theeedude

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Hey, if you can't believe a story being defended on Fox News, who can you trust?
I don't believe one way or another, but there's no actionable information here. He said she said. But even from her accusation, when she said no, he stopped and walked away.
 

theeedude

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I have addressed this. She originally used the idea that it was about Power, not Sex. Victims often do not give a full accounting of what occurred, hiding details out of Shame or Embarrassment, hoping to get some kind of Justice or some other sense of Closure with as little pain as possible. If you think I am full of shit, read some Psych papers on the subject or something.
Liars also often do not give a full accounting of what they claim happened, because details are easier for others to verify and contradict, like this claim of an ethics complaint. If you think I am full of shit, read some Psych papers on the subject or something. Maybe she's a victim, or maybe she's a liar, no way for me to know if it's she said he said.
 
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UNCjigga

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FOX is apparently claiming that Biden sent staffers to the University off Delaware last month, supposedly to review (or remove!) certain records he had handed over for his future library. They then go on to say how so many U of D administration are also Biden donors and well-connected to Hunter Biden etc. (CONSPIRACY!!!) They’re making it all too easy for morons to connect the dots and say he removed the Senate complaint Reade has filed way back when.

Nevermind any explanation as to why Biden would’ve had it, or willingly handed it over for a future public library (8 years ago) to begin with!!!
 

Starbuck1975

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No but her ninja editing doesn't help her case at all, of course you'll ignore that.
Not ignoring that, but balancing it against the more significant fact that her neighbor at the time recalled the allegations. I noticed that Mika didn’t press on that fact.
 

Starbuck1975

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Says the guy who has never once condemned the Republicans for electing the pussy grabber.
If you look at my posting history, you will find I abandoned the GOP once Bush sent us into Iraq and I will not vote for the GOP so long as Trump is its leader. Keep carrying water for Biden.
 
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theeedude

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Complaint which might not or might not exist, of which the complainant didn't even make a copy, wasn't even filed with Biden's office, it was supposedly filed with the Senate Ethics office, which would go to an Ethics committee with 3 Republican and 3 Democrat Senators, which we are led to believe just returned the complaint not to the person filing it, but Joe Biden, who we are then lead to believe didn't just shred it, but gave it to his archives, and then sent aides to retrieve it last month? So six senators of opposite parties supposedly endangered their careers and covered up a sexual assault for Biden, not by losing the complaint, but by giving it to him to preserve in his archives? Is that the story I am supposed to believe here?
 

Starbuck1975

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Not futile enough to file a report, but futile enough to make a copy?
Without the neighbor’s affirmation of the allegations, your question would have more merit, but it’s not beyond the realm of the possible that she trusted the system and didn’t think she needed to.
 

Vic

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FOX is apparently claiming that Biden sent staffers to the University off Delaware last month, supposedly to review (or remove!) certain records he had handed over for his future library. They then go on to say how so many U of D administration are also Biden donors and well-connected to Hunter Biden etc. (CONSPIRACY!!!) They’re making it all too easy for morons to connect the dots and say he removed the Senate complaint Reade has filed way back when.

Nevermind any explanation as to why Biden would’ve had it, or willingly handed it over for a future public library (8 years ago) to begin with!!!
For political extremists, such as the typical Fox news viewer, groupthink and tribal affiliation are more important than common sense and reason. As such, they are easily gullible to conspiracy theories based on others doing what they would do.
 

brycejones

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FOX is apparently claiming that Biden sent staffers to the University off Delaware last month, supposedly to review (or remove!) certain records he had handed over for his future library. They then go on to say how so many U of D administration are also Biden donors and well-connected to Hunter Biden etc. (CONSPIRACY!!!) They’re making it all too easy for morons to connect the dots and say he removed the Senate complaint Reade has filed way back when.

Nevermind any explanation as to why Biden would’ve had it, or willingly handed it over for a future public library (8 years ago) to begin with!!!
That's why hunter was in Ukraine. He was hiding the documents. Better send Rudy back forthwith!
 

fskimospy

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No, because she has people who have come forward to validate her account. How do you explain the neighbor?
Because telling your neighbor something and filing a formal complaint with the government which will investigate and follow up on this complaint are two entirely different things.

More importantly, she claimed this thing exists. If it does not, that indicates she has lied about this aspect of her story and that is incredibly damaging to her credibility.

If this report does not exist and you do not subsequently re-evaluate your position on her you are engaging in motivated reasoning.
 

theeedude

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Without the neighbor’s affirmation of the allegations, your question would have more merit, but it’s not beyond the realm of the possible that she trusted the system and didn’t think she needed to.
You are accusing a senator of sexual harassment and/or assault, and don't make a copy of your own allegations because you "trust the system?"
From December 1992 to August 1993, Tara Reade, then 29, was a staff assistant in Joe Biden's Senate office with responsibilities such as supervision of the office's interns and mail delivery.[1]
She worked in the Senate and was responsible for supervising interns for two years, but "trusted the system" and didn't know how to handle a sexual harassment complaint, or at least make a copy of one before filing it? It's possible, but not likely.
Her effusive praise for Russian President Vladimir Putin — she described him in a Medium post in December 2018 as a “compassionate, caring, visionary leader” — led to attacks that she was seeking to advance Russian interests.
Reade told The Post she had gained admiration for Putin while doing research on Russia for a novel. She said she took down the Putin-related posts because of the attacks.
Isn't it also interesting how Putin keeps popping up in these US election stories, completely coincidentally. Just like Jill Stein and Michael Flynn just happened to sit next to Putin in 2016.
 
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fskimospy

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You are accusing a senator of sexual harassment and/or assault, and don't make a copy of your own allegations because you "trust the system?"

She worked in the Senate and was responsible for supervising interns for two years, but "trusted the system" and didn't know how to handle a sexual harassment complaint, or at least make a copy of one before filing it? It's possible, but not likely.

Isn't it also interesting how Putin keeps popping up in these US election stories, completely coincidentally. Just like Jill Stein and Michael Flynn just happened to sit next to Putin in 2016.
She apparently trusted the system little enough that she felt the need to keep her OTHER employment documents from her time with Biden, just not the one that covered the self described turning point in her life.