The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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JEDIYoda

Lifer
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If it corroborated other things she has said it would! It would also presumably include documents relating to their investigation and evaluation of the complaint and its credibility. Surely you agree it is suspicious that the formal complaint she said she filed is missing and no one remembers it

The mom’s phone call to Larry King is probably something you will want to avoid. The caller said they didn’t want to come forward about the ‘problems’ ‘out of respect for the senator’. It is unlikely that you don’t do something because you respect your rapist too much.

Remember, I’m not immune to evidence like you are. I’m open to changing my mind, that’s why my evaluation of Reade has become worse and worse, after all.
all speculative BS....
 

theeedude

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No wonder she took this down.
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Why a Liberal Democrat Supports Vladimir Putin

By: Alexandra Tara Reade

“ Somewhere between ideas of right and wrong, there is a garden, I will meet you there.” Rumi

Why would a liberal democrat support Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin? Maybe it is because I believe he has saved the world from a large conflict on more than one occasion. Maybe it is because he speaks reasonably, with emotional intelligence at diplomatic meetings. Maybe it is because I worked in the government and came to know the American international agenda. Stay with me, as it is even more than that.

In college, I discovered other people who were open minded and curious about the world like me. I never bought the whole America is fighting for democracy all over the world byline. In fact, after reading authors like Noam Chomsky, my eyes opened to the great extent of our nation’s hypocrisy and imperialism. After college, I worked for the Congress, then the Senate and the California State Senate. I also worked as a political operative for a congressional race and key judge race. All this experience opened my eyes to see America, as it is, not a democracy at all but a corporate autocracy. In other words, corporations run America. So all this background is why I had a wide-open mind unfettered by American anti Russia propaganda to actually appreciate Russia. Now, lets talk about Vladimir Putin.

Through my lens, President Putin brought a chaotic and failed nation to become a vibrant, creative, economic force within a decade. I don’t care what your politics; just admit that his sheer, calculated vision and willful energy brought Russia back to be a world power. Now, I said this to a friend recently, she waved her glass of Merlot at me and began the “anti-Russia” lecture we all have come in America to memorize, a tale of spies, oligarchs, rigged elections and murders. I start to drift. I listen to the Sade song playing in the background “The Sweetest Taboo” as she speaks. When she finishes, I say, “Well, he is very good to women, holds them in high regard.” She starts to protest then stops and says, “yes, yes, but…” She trails off no doubt thinking of the American President’s obvious disdain and objectification of all women. I shrug. Maybe, America is on some wrong side of very big issues and we need to look at our own actions. For example,Yemen or Afghanistan. It used to be fashionable as a Democrat to embrace our Russian sisters and brothers. Now, it is supposed to be only Republican territory. This is ironic since the whole American anti-Russian propaganda came originally from neo-conservative hawks.

There have been many American administration changes; President Putin has tried again and again to keep diplomatic ties strong. I am sure, President Putin has experienced political whiplash with the mercurial American diplomatic meetings. But then he is against an American machine that is more than one politician; it is an American political landmine full of traps, set up before he even came to power. The agenda was clear, concise and evident when I worked in Washington DC, keep the Russians talking but bring their nation down and no world seat for them at the table. Politics has always been a blood sport.

President Putin’s genius is his judo ability to conserve his own energy and let the opponents flail, using up their energy, while he gains position. Currently, President Putin has a higher approval rating in America then the American President, particularly with women. President Putin has an alluring combination of strength with gentleness. His sensuous image projects his love for life, the embodiment of grace while facing adversity. It is evident that he loves his country, his people and his job. Although his job may seem like in the words of writer, Elizabeth Gilbert on genius, “ trying to swallow the sun.” This is a whole lot to deal with for one mere mortal… President Putin’s obvious reverence for women, children and animals, and his ability with sports is intoxicating to American women. Especially since the bloated, American President is so negative, denigrating and dismissive of anyone but himself as he stumbles even playing golf (which is not a real sport anyway but a past time, sorry golfers).

President Putin has taken his nation and his people towards new horizons of developing prosperity with education, science, technology and innovation. While in America, news of more jobs lost, punishing tariffs and ignorant, environmental policies abound. Sanctions mount and scandals alight the media.

We will see if President Putin will even bother to give another thumbs up to the American President at the G 20. Personally, I hope for no thumbs up, since neither the American President nor his wife deserve any positive approval from anyone. Besides, frankly, my dear, President Putin does not need America anymore, and neither does Russia.
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Is it a love letter to Putin or a cover letter on a resume? Because it looks like she got a job out of it.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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You are accusing a senator of sexual harassment and/or assault, and don't make a copy of your own allegations because you "trust the system?"

She worked in the Senate and was responsible for supervising interns for two years, but "trusted the system" and didn't know how to handle a sexual harassment complaint, or at least make a copy of one before filing it? It's possible, but not likely.

Isn't it also interesting how Putin keeps popping up in these US election stories, completely coincidentally. Just like Jill Stein and Michael Flynn just happened to sit next to Putin in 2016.
Did Putin plant the neighbor in the 90s? His long game is amazing.
 

fskimospy

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Did Putin plant the neighbor in the 90s? His long game is amazing.
It’s kind of weird that you think discovering she was lying about filing a complaint wouldn’t matter because she told a neighbor something. If she lied about the complaint then she could have just as easily lied to the neighbor.

I’m not saying she did lie about the complaint and it may still turn up. If it does not though her credibility is basically destroyed.
 
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It’s kind of weird that you think discovering she was lying about filing a complaint wouldn’t matter because she told a neighbor something. If she lied about the complaint then she could have just as easily lied to the neighbor.

I’m not saying she did lie about the complaint and it may still turn up. If it does not though her credibility is basically destroyed.
She may have told the neighbor, but it was several years after the alleged incident occurred, so it wasn't exactly "contemporary". She may have been honest in that disclosure to the neighbor, but who knows? There is also a claim of an actual contemporary report that was supposedly filed; let's see that to verify some of the original details.
 

theeedude

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She posts in Russian quoting Putin and his press secretary's propaganda shortly before coming forward with the accusation.
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Alexandra Tara Reade, J.D.
Alexandra Tara Reade, J.D.

Mar 27 · 2 min read

Кто выпустил кота?
Александра Тара Рид
«Очень трудно найти черного кота в темной комнате, особенно если его там нет». Китайская пословица
Заявление Дмитрия Пескова, пресс-секретаря президента Владимира Путина, заявление в ответ на выводы двухлетнего расследования Мюллера.

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Translation:
Who let the cat go?
Alexandra Tara Reed
"It is very difficult to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if he is not there." Chinese proverb
Statement by Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for President Vladimir Putin, statement in response to the findings of a two-year investigation by Mueller.

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Alexandra Tara Reade, J.D.
Alexandra Tara Reade, J.D.

Dec 18, 2018 · 2 min read

«Принеси свет»
Александра Тара Риде
«Измени свои слова на правду, а затем измени эту правду на любовь». Лирика из песни…

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Translation:
“Bring the light”
Alexandra Tara Ride
"Change your words to the truth, and then change that truth to love." Lyrics from the song ...
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She sure has been changing her words a lot. Maybe time to go back to the truth.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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She may have told the neighbor, but it was several years after the alleged incident occurred, so it wasn't exactly "contemporary". Let's find the actual contemporary report that was supposedly filed to verify some of the original details.

Take note that the Neighbour is just 1 of 4 people who have confirmed her mentioning the Allegation.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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Why would it? If it was the only bit of verification that she mentioned such a thing, ok, it would be vital. However, she brought the issue up with other People around the time, 4 of which have verified that she mentioned it.

The burden of proof is yours. Quote & link each statement.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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She posts in Russian quoting Putin and his press secretary's propaganda shortly before coming forward with the accusation.
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Alexandra Tara Reade, J.D.
Alexandra Tara Reade, J.D.

Mar 27 · 2 min read

Кто выпустил кота?
Александра Тара Рид
«Очень трудно найти черного кота в темной комнате, особенно если его там нет». Китайская пословица
Заявление Дмитрия Пескова, пресс-секретаря президента Владимира Путина, заявление в ответ на выводы двухлетнего расследования Мюллера.

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Translation:
Who let the cat go?
Alexandra Tara Reed
"It is very difficult to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if he is not there." Chinese proverb
Statement by Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for President Vladimir Putin, statement in response to the findings of a two-year investigation by Mueller.

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Alexandra Tara Reade, J.D.
Alexandra Tara Reade, J.D.

Dec 18, 2018 · 2 min read

«Принеси свет»
Александра Тара Риде
«Измени свои слова на правду, а затем измени эту правду на любовь». Лирика из песни…

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Translation:
“Bring the light”
Alexandra Tara Ride
"Change your words to the truth, and then change that truth to love." Lyrics from the song ...
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She sure has been changing her words a lot. Maybe time to go back to the truth.

Unrelated and immaterial. This is what Character Assassination looks like. A favourite tactic used by Rape Apologists.
 

Vic

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If you look at my posting history, you will find I abandoned the GOP once Bush sent us into Iraq and I will not vote for the GOP so long as Trump is its leader. Keep carrying water for Biden.
Why is it that everyone who doesn't agree with you on every little thing is a water carrier? Is it because you can't defend the inconsistencies in your positions and thus have to resort to namecalling?
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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The burden of proof is yours. Quote & link each statement.

Come the fuck on, you are fully aware by now that these people have made such statements. I'm not going to be fucking Gish Galloped with this nonsense.
 

theeedude

Lifer
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Unrelated and immaterial. This is what Character Assassination looks like. A favourite tactic used by Rape Apologists.
Immaterial that she's posting love letters to Putin, who we know interfered in US election in 2016 on behalf of Trump, a few months before coming forward with an accusation against the likely candidate against Trump in the 2020 election? There is a character assassination going on, and she is the perpetrator of it, not a victim.
 

dank69

Lifer
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If you look at my posting history, you will find I abandoned the GOP once Bush sent us into Iraq and I will not vote for the GOP so long as Trump is its leader. Keep carrying water for Biden.
Won't do anything to stop them either though.
 

Vic

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Immaterial that she's posting love letters to Putin, who we know interfered in US election in 2016 on behalf of Trump, a few months before coming forward with an accusation against the likely candidate against Trump in the 2020 election?
I really liked the part where she's a "liberal democrat" who supposedly hates America's corporate autocracy while praising Putin, the corporate autocrat who has effectively destroyed any hope of liberal democracy in Russia.
 
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sandorski

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Immaterial that she's posting love letters to Putin, who we know interfered in US election in 2016 on behalf of Trump, a few months before coming forward with an accusation against the likely candidate against Trump in the 2020 election? There is a character assassination going on, and she is the perpetrator of it, not a victim.

She came forward a yearish ago in support of another Woman making a complaint. She also did not just make this up recently.
 
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Take note that the Neighbour is just 1 of 4 people who have confirmed her mentioning the Allegation.
Yes, it is confirmed that she mentioned some part of the allegation at some date removed from the incident. There is an assumption that must be taken that she was in fact being entirely truthful in those retellings, and that people are also not filling in details retrospectively (eg, "oh, that's what she meant when she told me left because of harrassment or some issue at the office or being ostracized").

She also says she filed an official complaint - so let's find that - it would be a fucking slam dunk for the allegation.
 

theeedude

Lifer
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She came forward a yearish ago in support of another Woman making a complaint. She also did not just make this up recently.
And she was posting love letters to Putin a few months before that and went on to delete them when questioned about it. Purely coincidental?
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Yes, it is confirmed that she mentioned some part of the allegation at some date removed from the incident. There is an assumption that must be taken that she was in fact being entirely truthful in those retellings, and that people are also not filling in details retrospectively (eg, "oh, that's what she meant when she told me left because of harrassment or some issue at the office or being ostracized").

She also says she filed an official complaint - so let's find that - it would be a fucking slam dunk for the allegation.

It wouldn't be a slam dunk though. A Complaint does not prove the Event. It would certainly be yet another piece of evidence that she isn't just makng up things as a plot hatched up with Putin, but that idea should, IMO, already be put to rest with all the various confirmations from nearly 30 years ago.