The interracial gay kiss seen 'round the world

[zanejohnson]

im personally looking forward to the day we can have blood orgys in the streets

 

[Retro Rob]

Do you have any evidence for this?

I think I was raised by my family one way and you were raised in another.

I don't have any...I also don't have any evidence that I was born straight. No one told me to like women no more than I was told to recoil at gay kissing.

Yes, we were raised differently, but that doesn't affect how one is born.

 

[Bitek]

While I found the sentiment between Sam and his bf sweet, in general I find two dudes making out gross.

However, I also find old people kissing gross, fat people (imagine Chris Cristie, ew) ugly people, and even sloppy hetero kissing gross, even if the girl is hot.

Basically the only making out I want to see is two hot women.

Whatever. Congrats to Sam.

 

[Strk]

While I found the sentiment between Sam and his bf sweet, in general I find two dudes making out gross.

However, I also find old people kissing gross, fat people (imagine Chris Cristie, ew) ugly people, and even sloppy hetero kissing gross, even if the girl is hot.

Basically the only making out I want to see is two hot women.

Whatever. Congrats to Sam.

Unless I missed it, all he never made out with his boyfriend. He gave him a couple of pecks and stuffed a cake in his face.

 

[zanejohnson]

While I found the sentiment between Sam and his bf sweet, in general I find two dudes making out gross.

However, I also find old people kissing gross, fat people (imagine Chris Cristie, ew) ugly people, and even sloppy hetero kissing gross, even if the girl is hot.

Basically the only making out I want to see is two hot women.

Whatever. Congrats to Sam.

same here, now GIRL ON GIRL sloppy making out HOT


oh whoops lol i didnt read your whole post,

 

[zanejohnson]

that's so strange though, WHY is it that a sloppy girl on girl kiss is hot???

but not a hetero kiss even if the girl is super hot??


it really hints at real human nature i think...


it's almost how there's that strange appeal to 2girls1cup... some people actually jerk it to that kind of stuff...

 

[fskimospy]

I don't have any...I also don't have any evidence that I was born straight. No one told me to like women no more than I was told to recoil at gay kissing.

Yes, we were raised differently, but that doesn't affect how one is born.

I would say that views of homosexuality have shifted rapidly in recent years, especially among young people. Not just in that gay people deserve equal rights, but views on it as a whole.

If we were innately born to be repulsed by homosexuality don't you think that those numbers would not shift so much? Doesn't that point pretty strongly to the idea that we are conditioned one way or the other?

 

[Retro Rob]

I would say that views of homosexuality have shifted rapidly in recent years, especially among young people. Not just in that gay people deserve equal rights, but views on it as a whole.

If we were innately born to be repulsed by homosexuality don't you think that those numbers would not shift so much? Doesn't that point pretty strongly to the idea that we are conditioned one way or the other?

Actually, just because it's accepted doesn't mean they aren't repulsed...they simply don't outwardly react, or they probably don't bother watching certain programs or simply change the channel.

I know I've learned to keep my reactions private given the sensitive pro-gay climate. Me not outwardly reacting in no way indicates that I am not repulsed.

 

[CLite]

I would say that views of homosexuality have shifted rapidly in recent years, especially among young people. Not just in that gay people deserve equal rights, but views on it as a whole.

If we were innately born to be repulsed by homosexuality don't you think that those numbers would not shift so much? Doesn't that point pretty strongly to the idea that we are conditioned one way or the other?

This is honestly drifting into extreme thought police territory.

Why would someone's uncontrollable and personal thoughts about the attractiveness/repulsiveness/indifference of the kiss influence their opinion on the freedom of people to live their lives?

 

[fskimospy]

This is honestly drifting into extreme thought police territory.

Why would someone's uncontrollable and personal thoughts about the attractiveness/repulsiveness/indifference of the kiss influence their opinion on the freedom of people to live their lives?

I'm confused as to what you're asking. Do you really think that people's views towards something has no impact on whether or not they want it to be legal/whatever?

 

[JD50]

You think people are innately repulsed by same sex behavior? Given the prevalence of homosexuality in numerous different cultures around the world that seems unlikely.

The sheer amount of lesbian porn should be proof enough that people aren't naturally repulsed by homosexual behavior. Like I said earlier I think it's more that (most) people are repulsed by those they find unattractive, male or female.

 

[fskimospy]

Actually, just because it's accepted doesn't mean they aren't repulsed...they simply don't outwardly react, or they probably don't bother watching certain programs or simply change the channel.

I know I've learned to keep my reactions private given the sensitive pro-gay climate. Me not outwardly reacting in no way indicates that I am not repulsed.

Wait, you're really arguing that the same proportion of young people are repulsed by homosexuality as older generations?

I have to say that given their vastly differing views on the issue that seems mighty unlikely.

 

[Paratus]

What about kissing a toaster? Gross or hot?

Leads to dangerous things though:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4064927/

Man Gets Penis Stuck In Toaster, Firefighters Carry Out Hard Rescue
10/08/13 01:19 PM ET
In his defense, that toaster gives good bread.

An unidentified London man is nursing his knob after firefighters had to extract his penis from a toaster. It's unclear how the gentleman got it in there, but London's bravest were there to butter his bread, The Mirror reports.

I'm not sure he's unidentified any more. :sneaky:

 

[Retro Rob]

Wait, you're really arguing that the same proportion of young people are repulsed by homosexuality as older generations?

I have to say that given their vastly differing views on the issue that seems mighty unlikely.

Nope! Simply saying that there is no evidence showing that repulsive reaction isn't natural, coupled by the lack of evidence showing it's learned.

I think we can safely assume those who truly have no reaction, while being honest about it and are not in fear of looking bigoted, are born like that.

In this society, how many people do you expect to be honest about being repulsed at gay kissing?

If asked publicly, I'd decline to answer -- want to make sure I keep my job, ya know....

 

[michal1980]

It's the same reason I demand they keep the profoundly handicapped off my TV. It's not the norm, why should I have to be exposed to it?

where did I argue it should be off tv?

 

[fskimospy]

Nope! Simply saying that there is no evidence showing that repulsive reaction isn't natural, coupled by the lack of evidence showing it's learned.

I think we can safely assume those who truly have no reaction, while being honest about it and are not in fear of looking bigoted, are born like that.

In this society, how many people do you expect to be honest about being repulsed at gay kissing?

If asked publicly, I'd decline to answer -- want to make sure I keep my job, ya know....

What evidence would you accept that would change your mind about this?

 

[CLite]

I'm confused as to what you're asking. Do you really think that people's views towards something has no impact on whether or not they want it to be legal/whatever?

"no impact" no.......

However, I would say someone's rather benign and personal response to a male/male kiss has a near insignificant impact on his/her general desire to see freedoms and rights extended to all equally.

I simply disagree with your rather adamant characterization of a response to a male/male kiss as bigotry and as something that directly conflicts with the general trend of additional rights for LGBTs.

 

[Retro Rob]

What evidence would you accept that would change your mind about this?

What ya got?

 

[fskimospy]

"no impact" no.......

However, I would say someone's rather benign and personal response to a male/male kiss has a near insignificant impact on his/her general desire to see freedoms and rights extended to all equally.

I simply disagree with your rather adamant characterization of a response to a male/male kiss as bigotry and as something that directly conflicts with the general trend of additional rights for LGBTs.

It doesn't have to affect someone's life to be bigotry.

As for the rest, it doesn't have to conflict with wanting expanded lgbt rights, but I bet it often does. Regardless, no thought police found. You are free to hold whatever view on this that you want, and I am free to hold whatever view of you I want based on that.

 

[fskimospy]

What ya got?

You tell me what you will accept and I'll see what I can find. From what you have described I'm having a hard time thinking of any.

 

[CLite]

It doesn't have to affect someone's life to be bigotry.

As for the rest, it doesn't have to conflict with wanting expanded lgbt rights, but I bet it often does. Regardless, no thought police found. You are free to hold whatever view on this that you want, and I am free to hold whatever view of you I want based on that.

Free yes, but by calling someone a bigot you are saying it's morally wrong for someone to have an internal put-off reaction when witnessing a male/male kiss despite let's say his/her hypothetical outward support for rights/equality for all.

I'm saying it's thought police from the perspective that you are calling that person a bad person, obviously not from a legal perspective.

 

[bradly1101]

that's so strange though, WHY is it that a sloppy girl on girl kiss is hot???

but not a hetero kiss even if the girl is super hot??


it really hints at real human nature i think...


it's almost how there's that strange appeal to 2girls1cup... some people actually jerk it to that kind of stuff...

Some ladies get off on two guys from what I hear.

 

[fskimospy]

Free yes, but by calling someone a bigot you are saying it's morally wrong for someone to have an internal put-off reaction when witnessing a male/male kiss despite let's say his/her hypothetical outward support for rights/equality for all.

I'm saying it's thought police from the perspective that you are calling that person a bad person, obviously not from a legal perspective.

Yes, I think that is an irrational and bigoted reaction. I don't know what else to say. I'm happy that such an individual wouldn't carry over that feeling towards other issues.

 

[CLite]

Yes, I think that is an irrational and bigoted reaction. I don't know what else to say. I'm happy that such an individual wouldn't carry over that feeling towards other issues.

Irrational? Do you hold logical debates in your head before your dick gets hard?

Someone's sexual response to PDA which is a form of sexual expression can't be labeled as rational or irrational.

Let's rank a response as ranging from repulsed to indifferent to attracted. I'm almost always completely indifferent to kisses, however if I see a hot female kiss a hot female I'm attracted. In no way shape or form can I classify my feelings as "rational" or "irrational".

 

[Sonikku]

No.

I support gay marriage.
I support legal protections for gays not to be harassed/assaulted/fired/otherwise discriminated against because they're gay.
I have gay friends and co-workers, and I treat them with all respect due any other human beings.

I'd rather not watch two men kiss. I'm really not a fan of PDAs at all.

This. Gays can be equal and all that crap, but don't be gay in public. Ain't nobody needs to see that shit.