The interracial gay kiss seen 'round the world

[bradly1101]

Recently when Michael Sam made the NFL draft and celebrated his success by kissing his boyfriend, there was some controversy, not about the fact that it was an interracial kiss, but a gay one.

Other players tweeted their disgust and concern for children who may have seen it. And of course there were many more who felt that way.

Growing up gay it would have been amazing to see that when I was a kid when the world seemed so anti-gay. I hid who I was because of the liberal use of the extreme insult, "i love you!" aimed really at anyone, usually followed by a violent act. It was depressing.

Back in the '60's there was another filmed, famous kiss that caused controversy. It was between people of different races (Kirk and Ohuru).

I think it says something for society that nothing was made of the fact that Michael Sam's kiss was interracial. We've progressed. I know there are some who don't want to progress to the point of just seeing a gay kiss like any other (indeed some balk at any kind of 'progressivism').

I'm looking forward to that day when gay men can express their love with a kiss in public, are you?

 

[Mursilis]

I'm looking forward to that day when gay men can express their love with a kiss in public, are you?

No.

I support gay marriage.
I support legal protections for gays not to be harassed/assaulted/fired/otherwise discriminated against because they're gay.
I have gay friends and co-workers, and I treat them with all respect due any other human beings.

I'd rather not watch two men kiss. I'm really not a fan of PDAs at all.

 

[Subyman]

Not a fan of PDA? What makes you uncomfortable about two people kissing? Don't look. I'll be happy when two gay dudes making out isn't a news story.

 

[Retro Rob]

I'm looking forward to that day when gay men can express their love with a kiss in public, are you?

Actually, I am looking forward to the day when people who don't agree with gay kisses can do so without getting death threats:

Gotta love America. Home of the greatest sh*t talkers on earth. The past 24hrs I've been accused of being prejudice [and] a bigot. Had a few people say they wanted to kill me and my kids. I was the worst player in the NFL," he noted.
"They hope I die. And my kids killed. All because I said I didn't think it was appropriate for someone to shove cake down another person's face then tongue them down on national TV. Not once saying anything about the person's sexual preference. But that's America for you. All I can do is smile and say thank you for seeing things that aren't there!"

http://www.christianpost.com/news/d...pn-don-jones-fined-for-horrible-tweet-119571/

Cannot applaud the tolerance of the gay community more than I am now.

 

[Subyman]

Actually, I am looking forward to the day when people who don't agree with gay kisses can do so without getting death threats:




http://www.christianpost.com/news/d...pn-don-jones-fined-for-horrible-tweet-119571/

Cannot applaud the tolerance of the gay community more than I am now.

EH, its crazies on both sides. Gay men were actually attacked a few years back, gay bashing. Now some gays type up mean letters to anti-gay people. I'd venture to say any blogger gets death threats. "I'm going to ****ing kill you. Hyacinth should have been in your top ten flowers list."

 

[Retro Rob]

EH, its crazies on both sides. Gay men were actually attacked a few years back, gay bashing. Now some gays type up mean letters to anti-gay people. I'd venture to say any blogger gets death threats. "I'm going to ****ing kill you. Hyacinth should have been in your top ten flowers list."

So its OK for gays to threaten people's lives because homophobes beat up gay people?

Gotcha'...

I call that "retributionism".

 

[Oyeve]

I would not like to see two guys making out. I would also not like to see two girls making out in public. In fact, I wouldn't like to see any couple making out in public. A kiss, fine, but making out should be done in private gay making out or not.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Actually, I am looking forward to the day when people who don't agree with gay kisses can do so without getting death threats:




http://www.christianpost.com/news/d...pn-don-jones-fined-for-horrible-tweet-119571/

Cannot applaud the tolerance of the gay community more than I am now.

Let me start out by saying threatening violence on him or his family for his views is absolutely 100% wrong, and the people who did so should take a look in the mirror when thinking about what is wrong with this country.

With that said, would he have tweeted that if the player kissed his girlfriend/wife? Probably not. What is the big deal about talking to your kids about sex? Oh yea, christians have made violence completely socially acceptable, but have influenced us to be ashamed of basic human desires, like sex. Ever wonder why you can turn on the TV during prime time and see people get their head blown off, but if a nip slip occurs it makes the news? Hint: Read a bible, violence is common place and glorified by the christian god himself, but sex is treated rather differently.

I'm sorry I can't get worked up about christians feeling like they are persecuted because they aren't allowed to persecute others.

 

[artvscommerce]

So its OK for gays to threaten people's lives because homophobes beat up gay people?

Gotcha'...

I call that "retributionism".

Where did he say it was okay? You must be trollin.

 

[Subyman]

So its OK for gays to threaten people's lives because homophobes beat up gay people?

Gotcha'...

I call that "retributionism".

Perhaps reread my post. What I'm saying is that it is the "crazies", the people with extreme views on both sides. Both sides have been bashing on each other constantly for years. The only difference is that the gay people are finally getting the upper hand in society.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I saw that public display and said to myself....really?

 

[Retro Rob]

Perhaps reread my post. What I'm saying is that it is the "crazies", the people with extreme views on both sides. Both sides have been bashing on each other constantly for years. The only difference is that the gay people are finally getting the upper hand in society.

You didn't say it's wrong to threaten someone else's life...you essentially OK'd it by saying: "any blogger gets death threats".

Perhaps I should have said "many people got attacked a few years back", not just gays.

 

[werepossum]

Actually, I am looking forward to the day when people who don't agree with gay kisses can do so without getting death threats:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/d...pn-don-jones-fined-for-horrible-tweet-119571/

Cannot applaud the tolerance of the gay community more than I am now.

Wow, death threats (assuming he's not lying) because he's disgusted with two men kissing is just insane. Although these may not be gays. I would expect gays' reaction to be more along the lines of hoping that one day Ward would experience similar discrimination than death threats, although of course there are crazies of all types.

I used to be disgusted at two men kissing, although I've always enjoyed the sight of two women kissing. I got over it by realizing that was an unreasonable reaction. We CAN control how we react to stimuli.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Hey - glad you fight in wars, win our sports games, pay your taxes and whatnot,... but, don't you dare kiss in public.

Makes sense.

After all, the founding fathers preached freedom, yet owned slaves.

Yup.

 

[michal1980]

Wow, death threats (assuming he's not lying) because he's disgusted with two men kissing is just insane. Although these may not be gays. I would expect gays' reaction to be more along the lines of hoping that one day Ward would experience similar discrimination than death threats, although of course there are crazies of all types.

I used to be disgusted at two men kissing, although I've always enjoyed the sight of two women kissing. I got over it by realizing that was an unreasonable reaction. We CAN control how we react to stimuli.

so you've been desensitized?

 

[alzan]

Actually, I am looking forward to the day when people who don't agree with gay kisses can do so without getting death threats:




http://www.christianpost.com/news/d...pn-don-jones-fined-for-horrible-tweet-119571/

Cannot applaud the tolerance of the gay community more than I am now.

Stupid reigns on both sides in that situation.

 

[nehalem256]

I used to be disgusted at two men kissing, although I've always enjoyed the sight of two women kissing. I got over it by realizing that was an unreasonable reaction. We CAN control how we react to stimuli.

Sorry, 2 men kissing each other is gross.

Seems to me that people flipping out over saying 2 guys kissing is gross are essentially trying to implement thought crime.

 

[brycejones]

As for the original subject in the OP's post. Big deal, couples kiss.

 

[Subyman]

You didn't say it's wrong to threaten someone else's life...you essentially OK'd it by saying: "any blogger gets death threats".

Perhaps I should have said "many people got attacked a few years back", not just gays.

Nope. I never said I'm okay with death threats and never "OK'd" anything... I'm saying they are a dime a dozen these days from internet trolls and extremists and aren't something new. Gays have been sending death threats to anti gay people and vice versa for years. The ONLY difference is that gays have the upper hand in society's acceptance now.

FWIW, ones views on anything can be used against them if they aren't aligned with society's norms. Society adopting gays will make having a negative stance against gays a bad position to have. That is a fact, not my opinion nor is it my wish or approval (I have to say all that so you don't put words in my mouth.)

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Meh, this is no big deal and has been happening on other normal shows on cable TV.
I've seen men couples or women couples kiss on various Food Network shows and Project Runway/Under the Gunn.

 

[K1052]

Meh, this is no big deal and has been happening on other normal shows on cable TV.
I've seen men couples or women couples kiss on various Food Network shows and Project Runway/Under the Gunn.

From a social perspective this will probably be a total non-issue in another 10 years at the current rate.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'm looking forward to that day when gay men can express their love with a kiss in public, are you?

No. These developments necessitate PDA laws.

 

[bradly1101]

No.

I support gay marriage.
I support legal protections for gays not to be harassed/assaulted/fired/otherwise discriminated against because they're gay.
I have gay friends and co-workers, and I treat them with all respect due any other human beings.

I'd rather not watch two men kiss. I'm really not a fan of PDAs at all.

Well, I think there are generally accepted PDA's.

Holding hands = OK

A peck from your girlfriend (If you're a guy) after you bring her an ice cream cone on the public pier = OK

A big, sloppy, wet kiss = Not OK

A peck from your boyfriend (If you're a guy) after you bring him an ice cream cone on the public pier = Not OK but (to use a trendy word) is trending toward acceptance.

I know, it's a slippery slope; next people will be kissing their dogs!

 

[Subyman]

No. These developments necessitate PDA laws.

Government going to tell us where we can kiss? **** that.

 

[PokerGuy]

Sorry, 2 men kissing each other is gross.

Seems to me that people flipping out over saying 2 guys kissing is gross are essentially trying to implement thought crime.

Yep, it's back to that old "tolerance" thing, where they are tolerant as long as you agree with their viewpoint. Otherwise, not so much. I personally find it disgusting, but to each his own. Since it's disgusting to me, I just won't watch any channel that shows something I find disgusting, so I vote with my wallet (in this case, my remote).