The interracial gay kiss seen 'round the world

[sportage]

I don't buy this bull with people objecting to any sort of PDA. I think it's just an excuse for objecting when any 2 men show PDA. Kissing or simple hand holding, I'd bet men hand holding in public would outrage these same objectors. The "kiss" was perfectly fine and this PDA long overdue. Just grow up people. I see men with women holding hands together every day in public. Two men or two women have the same right. And what's this comment about him kissing his boyfriend? Maybe they were legally married? Certainly married couples have the right to show PDA. Men or women or whatever, get over it. I seen a lady kissing her poodle one day. So cute.

 

[JD50]

Yes, I think that is an irrational and bigoted reaction. I don't know what else to say. I'm happy that such an individual wouldn't carry over that feeling towards other issues.

There's nothing bigoted about being repulsed by people you find unattractive. Straight males are not going to find other males attractive, so naturally they will be grossed out by seeing two males kissing. How is this different than being grossed out by witnessing, for example, two morbidly obese people (male, female, striaght, or gay) kissing?

If you're saying it's wrong ONLY if someone is put off because the people kissing are homosexual, then I agree. But I think most people are put off because they simply don't like seeing what they deem to be unattractive people kissing. And just to be clear, I have no problem with people kissing in public, gay or straight.

 

[JD50]

This. Gays can be equal and all that crap, but don't be gay in public. Ain't nobody needs to see that shit.

Objecting to PDA in general is fine, but singling out gay people is ignorant.

 

[squarecut1]

I'm looking forward to that day when gay men can express their love with a kiss in public, are you?

No

 

[nyker96]

I don't see any problem with them kissing in public, if straight people can do it, why not gays.

 

[werepossum]

So by that logic it should be easy for gays to become straight ()

lol I think there may be a big hurdle between not thinking something is gross and finding that thing a turn-on. But unless there's something in the water that's turning people gay, gays have been doing that for millenia. One can pound a square peg into a round hole as long as one accepts some damage to peg and hole, and where being gay has not been acceptable, some portion of gay people live as straight people while others live celibate lives and some very few live covert gay lives.

I don't think it's bigotry to not want to see two people kiss. However, there's a fine line between not wanting to see it and going online to tell the world you think it's disgusting, and ESPN should be ashamed for airing it, and other such nonsense that people posted to Twitter during the telecast. I was curious about how often draftees are shown kissing their partners, and literally the first person I looked up (Robert Griffin III) was shown kissing his girlfriend after getting drafted. I don't recall a big Twitter outcry about how disgusting it was to show public displays of affection back then. But I guess it's different if you can't get an erection watching it. The double standard, that's where the bigotry comes in; it's OK if this class of people does it, but if this other group of people does it, I'm raising hell.

Well said. I think that's part of today's culture of tweets and blogs.

What about kissing a toaster? Gross or hot?

Depends. Is the toaster plugged in?

 

[werepossum]

No, that's like telling someone they can control who they are attracted to. Just try it, there's no rational reason not to like that other person instead

Baloney. Again, that's like saying whoever you're attracted to is 'learned behavior'. It is not, and neither is your taste. Now you could desensitize yourself to something, but that doesn't mean it's no longer repulsive, it just means you've gotten better at not reacting to it.

I think there is an important divide between finding something gross and finding something a turn on. In fact, I'd argue that the vast majority of human experiences lie in this area, neither a turn-on nor an attraction.

I see straight people kissing all the time and never have I thought that it was gross. I just view it with disinterest. It is on par with a cow chewing hay for me. Not good or bad, it just is.

Your upbringing and experiences of course shaped your reactions to basically all social situations. The part when we become adults is to step back and ask why we might react the way that we do to some things and does it actually make any logical sense.

Exactly. A gay male couple kissing is no different to me than an unattractive (to me) hetero couple kissing. It's there, I appreciate that there is affection (too little of that in the world where we avidly watch reality TV to see who gets booted off the island after all the backstabbing and conniving), but the kiss itself is without any power or interest either way. A kiss is not binary, such that it must be either gross or a turn-on, unless we choose to make it so. Many times - probably most times - we make that choice subconsciously as we've been conditioned to do, but there is no inherent reason a kiss must be one or the other.

 

[soulcougher73]

So by that logic it should be easy for gays to become straight ()

So by your logic is should also be easy for straights to become gay. What that? It's hard you say? It goes against every fiber of your being? Say it aint so.

 

[nehalem256]

So by your logic is should also be easy for straights to become gay. What that? It's hard you say? It goes against every fiber of your being? Say it aint so.

Seems to happen pretty often in prison. Not to mention say ancient Greece. Where dudes were having sex with each other all the time...

 

[MagickMan]

No.

I support gay marriage.
I support legal protections for gays not to be harassed/assaulted/fired/otherwise discriminated against because they're gay.
I have gay friends and co-workers, and I treat them with all respect due any other human beings.

I'd rather not watch two men kiss. I'm really not a fan of PDAs at all.

Agree, 100%. Save the tonsil hockey for when you have some privacy.

 

[artvscommerce]

I get grossed out when I see violence on the news. lets ban the news!

 

[MagickMan]

People still watch TV news? WTF?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Seems to happen pretty often in prison. Not to mention say ancient Greece. Where dudes were having sex with each other all the time...

So you're saying this is a learned behavior that can change; people who were once probably grossed out about the idea of doing something gay can come full circle. You can get over being disgusted by seeing two men kiss, then.

 

[justoh]

LOL, so people are "bad" for exercising their freedom to NOT watch certain programming?

Really?

Remember, Christianity used to believe being gay was "bad". You libs are just steps away from killing us.

You can't use an individual or individuals who threaten someone's children as a representative example of a liberal, or a conservative, or pretty much anything. psychopath maybe? Just saying. Pretty stupid thing to have written?

Even if the people making the death threats could be liberals in a meaningful sense (which they can't), and embodied everything else about... err, liberalism?, that wouldn't help your case, because it wouldn't follow that threats of child homicide (or actually doing it) was part of the "lib" agenda and a common/shared goal for libs.

Jesus Christ.

 

[SlowSpyder]

You can't use an individual or individuals who threaten someone's children as a representative example of a liberal, or a conservative, or pretty much anything. psychopath maybe? Just saying. Pretty stupid thing to have written?

Even if the people making the death threats could be liberals in a meaningful sense (which they can't), and embodied everything else about... err, liberalism?, that wouldn't help your case, because it wouldn't follow that threats of child homicide (or actually doing it) was part of the "lib" agenda and a common/shared goal for libs.

Jesus Christ.

Hey, sometimes you just gotta kill kids...

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. (2 Kings 2:24)

It isn't a liberal vs. conservative thing. But this is the 'loving' god people follow. Little wonder there is so much bigotry and hatred among their ranks.

 

[IGBT]

I'm confused about these things..which one is the wife??

 

[justoh]

I don't buy this bull with people objecting to any sort of PDA. I think it's just an excuse for objecting when any 2 men show PDA. Kissing or simple hand holding, I'd bet men hand holding in public would outrage these same objectors. The "kiss" was perfectly fine and this PDA long overdue. Just grow up people. I see men with women holding hands together every day in public. Two men or two women have the same right. And what's this comment about him kissing his boyfriend? Maybe they were legally married? Certainly married couples have the right to show PDA. Men or women or whatever, get over it. I seen a lady kissing her poodle one day. So cute.

Yes, they're obviously only objecting because it's gay pda. Feeling uncomfortable is one thing, but actually making a point of noting it could indicate homophobia, and probably also racism from rob. They should go watch some gay, interracial porn already. God.

 

[peonyu]

Its either or. Either gays can do everything straight people can do in public, or else your a bigot if you dont think they should be able to. You cant pick and choose and be like "OH gay marriage is fine but Steven and his Hubby Bob cant kiss in public! Ewww"...It doesnt work that way folks, you wanted gay marriage and gay this/gay that, well your going to get all of that and more [minus straight up gay sex in public]. When some gay men start making out in front of your kids at some diner, dont start crying about it, its what you wanted [assuming you are pro-gay marriage, if not boo hoo get used to it].


The interracial aspect is not a big deal at all. Most big cities these days have IR couples every way you look.

 

[smackababy]

Its either or. Either gays can do everything straight people can do in public, or else your a bigot if you dont think they should be able to. You cant pick and choose and be like "OH gay marriage is fine but Steven and his Hubby Bob cant kiss in public! Ewww"...It doesnt work that way folks, you wanted gay marriage and gay this/gay that, well your going to get all of that and more [minus straight up gay sex in public]. When some gay men start making out in front of your kids at some diner, dont start crying about it, its what you wanted [assuming you are pro-gay marriage, if not boo hoo get used to it].


The interracial aspect is not a big deal at all. Most big cities these days have IR couples every way you look.

It isn't either / or. I dislike all PDAs, and I am probably one of the biggest gay rights supports. I found nothing wrong with what he did, I just find it distasteful to have any kind of emotional kiss (between anyone) broadcast on TV. I understand that was an emotional moment, but that isn't the place for it. The only person you should kiss in public is your mother, and it had damn better be nothing more than a peck on the cheek!

 

[lotus503]

Well, I think there are generally accepted PDA's.

Holding hands = OK

A peck from your girlfriend (If you're a guy) after you bring her an ice cream cone on the public pier = OK

A big, sloppy, wet kiss = Not OK

A peck from your boyfriend (If you're a guy) after you bring him an ice cream cone on the public pier = Not OK but (to use a trendy word) is trending toward acceptance.

I know, it's a slippery slope; next people will be kissing their dogs!

Not sure why people have a need to put things in neat little packages of what they find acceptable and do not.

What I find most troubling is the fact its 2014 and we even have to have these conversations. Don't like something don't look at it, pretty simple.

With all of the issues in this world who someone kisses measures literally not at all on the meter of shit I care about.

 

[Thebobo]

A classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTomOJJpDo

 

[JD50]

Its either or. Either gays can do everything straight people can do in public, or else your a bigot if you dont think they should be able to. You cant pick and choose and be like "OH gay marriage is fine but Steven and his Hubby Bob cant kiss in public! Ewww"...It doesnt work that way folks, you wanted gay marriage and gay this/gay that, well your going to get all of that and more [minus straight up gay sex in public]. When some gay men start making out in front of your kids at some diner, dont start crying about it, its what you wanted [assuming you are pro-gay marriage, if not boo hoo get used to it].


The interracial aspect is not a big deal at all. Most big cities these days have IR couples every way you look.

WTF? I don't know of anyone that's ok with a couple (straight or gay) making out in front of their kids at dinner. You're homophobia is showing.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

When some gay men start making out in front of your kids at some diner, dont start crying about it, its what you wanted [assuming you are pro-gay marriage, if not boo hoo get used to it].

You and I clearly frequent very different diners. Yours sounds more fun.