The Intel Atom Thread

[CHADBOGA]

Just imagine what the Q704 will cost. Agreed Bay Trail at that price is just excessive (I have a Dell Venue 8 Pro cost me $322 after-tax), its a great piece of kit, but at least switch Bay Trail with a Celeron/Pentium level CPU and charge that price. That blurb did make it sound like the keyboard dock and docking station are included in the package which does significantly ups the value proposition, yet still too high. For the Q704 it'll be a great machine (if it solves the horrible throttling issue the Q702 had), yet it'll likely be $2000+ maxed out. But 12.5" to me at least is a great size, but the weight for that is still too high (both the tablet and dock, 10-15% reduction increases the attractiveness a lot.

Anyways I ran a set of tests on my Venue 8 Pro, I ran them 5 times each (except Bmark) on Chrome to eliminate outliers. Here is the list:

Sunspider 1.0.2 - 537.06 ms
Sunspider 0.9.1 - 561.98 ms
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - 5893.58 ms
Google Octane V1 - 5457.6
Browsermark 2.0 - 2732.67
WebXPRT - 492.83

Browsermark gave me some issues, and I think this number would be closer to 3000 but alas I gave up on that particular benchmark when it didn't run fully a couple times in a row.

Other than that though, and a bit lower WebXPRT score, it runs pretty well, more or less the same as the Asus T100.

Qualitatively though, I'm very happy overall with the experience with Windows 8.1 on the 8" screen, everything is responsive and works well.

Bring on Airmont -> Cherry Trail.

Could you please run GeekBench 3. 🙂

 

[jdubs03]

Could you please run GeekBench 3. 🙂

Sure, I won't get home until around 6pm ET so it'll be a while but yea I'll run it a couple times.

Oh I should add, on my normal workload which is internet browsing, some youtube videos at 720p, powerpoint, PDF reading I get about 7.5 hours. So a little less than Dell's quoted 8 hours but enough for what I need it for.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Could you please run GeekBench 3. 🙂

Your wish is my command...

 

[Nothingness]

Intel17, more info here: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/188140
🙂

 

[Nothingness]

New Bay Trails: http://ark.intel.com/compare/76752,76753,76754,79050,79051,79052,79053

We now have both SDP and TDP: TDP is about twice SDP.

$132 looks very high to me.

 

[sofo]

good ^_

 

[cbn]

Deleted.

 

[Arachnotronic]

New Bay Trails: http://ark.intel.com/compare/76752,76753,76754,79050,79051,79052,79053

We now have both SDP and TDP: TDP is about twice SDP.

$132 looks very high to me.

I can guarantee you that OEMs are not paying anything close to that.

 

[podspi]

New Bay Trails: http://ark.intel.com/compare/76752,76753,76754,79050,79051,79052,79053

We now have both SDP and TDP: TDP is about twice SDP.

$132 looks very high to me.

Yeah, there is no way companies are actually paying that much (net whatever incentives/marketing funding pools Intel provides).

They're clearly making it work though, I can't remember the last time there were so many appealing PCs being released at the same time.

 

[liahos1]

Dell Venue Pro 11 up for order. With early December delivery. Sort of bummed there arent any LTE versions yet. Does anyone know if the the Core version is fanless?

http://www.dell.com/us/p/dell-venue-11-pro/pd

 

[Nothingness]

I can guarantee you that OEMs are not paying anything close to that.

Certainly not. But at the same time the list price of 3770 is less than $40 and I guess it's subject to heavier binning to get lower power parts. So that official price is odd.

 

[monstercameron]

wow the dell venue 8 pro impresses me so much, intel and dell are overpowering my AMD apu bias, the perf and value aspects are very high...
As much as I hate to admit it, the intel atm is the best tablet chip and the 8 pro is one of the best tablets out there imho...
http://winsupersite.com/mobile-devices/dell-venue-8-pro-what-dell-got-right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEBy18nf2Hg [starcraft]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFd2axXq6-E [torchlight]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzbmwyt6q6Q [hl2 lost coast]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jCa3ehAfeo [halo:ce]

 

[Arachnotronic]

wow the dell venue 8 pro impresses me so much, intel and dell are overpowering my AMD apu bias, the perf and value aspects are very high...
As much as I hate to admit it, the intel atm is the best tablet chip and the 8 pro is one of the best tablets out there imho...
http://winsupersite.com/mobile-devices/dell-venue-8-pro-what-dell-got-right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEBy18nf2Hg [starcraft]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFd2axXq6-E [torchlight]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzbmwyt6q6Q [hl2 lost coast]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jCa3ehAfeo [halo:ce]

The best thing about this tablet is that it's just so damn snappy.

 

[Vesku]

I'll need a roughly 10 inch tablet to even consider running Windows 8. I'm relatively forgiving of the phone screen sizes (3.2-5) but when it comes to a tablet even Android devices with 7/8 inch screens are unsatisfactory can't imagine Windows would be any more satisfactory.

Any 10/11 inch Bay Trail tablets announced with good specs in the $300-350 range?

 

[paperwastage]

I'll need a roughly 10 inch tablet to even consider running Windows 8. I'm relatively forgiving of the phone screen sizes (3.2-5) but when it comes to a tablet even Android devices with 7/8 inch screens are unsatisfactory can't imagine Windows would be any more satisfactory.

Any 10/11 inch Bay Trail tablets announced with good specs in the $300-350 range?

the only three Bay Trail 10/11 ones that are available:

Asus T100 - >$350
Dell Venue 11 Pro - >$430

Asus and Dell mostly have the same specs (2GB ram, Z3740 cpu, USB 3.0, microHDMI )... the Dell one has 1080p screen and back camera while T100 doesn't...

coming soon by christmas?


HP Pavilion 11 X2 -> $599, Nov 17 release date
HP Omni 10 - ?

 

[dahorns]

the only three Bay Trail 10/11 ones that are available:

Asus T100 - >$350
Dell Venue 11 Pro - >$430
HP Pavilion 11 X2 -> $599

Asus and Dell mostly have the same specs (2GB ram, Z3740 cpu, USB 3.0, microHDMI )... the Dell one has 1080p screen and back camera while T100 doesn't...

coming soon by christmas?


HP Omni 10 - ?

Unfortunately the Venue 11 Pro is listed as starting at $499 on Dell's website. However, it sports the Z3770 , not the Z3740. It also comes standard the 64gb of storage, compared to the Asus' 32.

 

[Sweepr]

Most 10-11'' models (including Dell and HP) are based on Z3770 (or Bay Trail-M), quite a bit faster than the Z3740 (up to 2.4GHz vs 1.8GHz). I wish M$ finished connected standby for 64-bit Windows soon, a 4GB Bay Trail-T tablet would be nice. 😛

 

[Sweepr]

Interesting, 'D' models have slightly higher IGP turbo clocks (688MHz vs 677MHz for non-D models). Non-D models probably still perform better due to dual-channel DDR3-1066 vs single-channel DDR3-1333.

 

[CHADBOGA]

Your wish is my command...

Thank you kind Sir. :biggrin:

 

[Shivansps]

Dell Venue 11 Pro seems to also have Haswell-Y options... Expect the Pentium 3560Y to have a large increase on IGP performance.

http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/corporate/secure/en/Documents/dell-venue-11pro-brochure.pdf

 

[monstercameron]

Dell Venue 11 Pro seems to also have Haswell-Y options... Expect the Pentium 3560Y to have a large increase on IGP performance.

at the cost of size[thickness] and battery life...

 

[Shivansps]

Strange that is presented in that way rather as a separated model. The Battery is expected, but Haswell one also have a slightly larger bat.

 

[dahorns]

at the cost of size[thickness] and battery life...

Battery 30Whr or 37Whr, Swappable battery (based on configuration)

Presumably the haswell variants come with the 37Whr battery. That's roughly the same as the 11 inch Macbook Air (38Whr), which got really pretty good battery life in Anand's tests.

 

[monstercameron]

Presumably the haswell variants come with the 37Whr battery. That's roughly the same as the 11 inch Macbook Air (38Whr), which got really pretty good battery life in Anand's tests.

in mac osx sure, but windows aint as efficient. Then again I was comparing the perf advantage to the lower battery runtime downside.

 

[Shift_]

in mac osx sure, but windows aint as efficient. Then again I was comparing the perf advantage to the lower battery runtime downside.

Citation needed.

Personal experience here: I have both windows 8.1 and Mavericks machines here in the office (the Mac has slightly better hardware, but it is a more expensive machine) and pretty much everything is more snappy on the windows 8.1 machine. Including all the usual software, photoshop, office, adobe acrobat...etc...