- Dec 25, 2013
Didn't Intel quit the tablet market? Wasn't Apollo Lake meant for low-end laptops? Interesting, but prolly low volume, it isn't like W10 has huge tablet share.
And they screwed up the low Core tier with that... and considering that ARM A73 is about to come, has Windows emulation with similar performance, Intel is literally doing a harakiri on that segment.Didn't Intel quit the tablet market? Wasn't Apollo Lake meant for low-end laptops? Interesting, but prolly low volume, it isn't like W10 has huge tablet share.
It will be nice when Apollo Lake laptops come to North America. I read that some were ETA December 2016 but haven't see any here yet.Where can you buy an Apollo Lake board in the US? I see an Asrock J4205 on sale at Amazon and Newegg for ~$120... but it has a realtek nic!
Anyone spotted J4205 elsewhere?
https://liliputing.com/2017/01/google-unveils-two-new-stylus-toting-chromebooks-education-acer-asus.htmlAcer Chromebook Spin 11 with a convertible tablet design and an Asus Chromebook C213 convertible will both be available in late spring, and both will support stylus input.
...Acer will offer models with Intel Celeron N3350 dual-core or Celeron N3450 quad-core processors and between 4GB and 8GB of RAM and 32GB to 64GB of eMMC flash storage. There are two USB 3.1 Type-C ports, 802.11ac WiFi, Bluetooth 4.2, and two USB Type-A 3.0 ports along with a microSD card slot.
https://liliputing.com/2017/01/acer-hp-lenovo-unveil-low-cost-windows-laptops-education-189.htmlThe new HP ProBook x360 11 G1 Education Edition is a convertible notebook with a 360 degree hinge, a touchscreen display, and a starting price of $289.
It has an 11.6 inch, 1366 x 768 pixel display, pen support, Celeron N3350 and Pentium N4200 processor options, support for up to 8GB of RAM, up to 64GB of eMMC or up to 256GB of M.2 SSD storage, a microSD card slot, two USB 3.1 ports, a USB Type-C port, HDMI 14b, and a 41 Wh battery.
Interesting. Considering Avoton was/is up to 8C/8T Silvermont cores @ 20W, Denverton delivers twice the number of cores and improved IPC at up to 31W.Intel® Atom™ C3000 (Denverton) 2-16 cores, 8.5W - 31W
Gemini Lake finally has native HDMI 2.0 support, which should have been in Apollo Lake in the first place.Geminilake has a native HDMI 2.0 controller, which is capable of
driving clocks upto 594Mhz. This patch updates the max tmds clock
limit for the same.
- Cores counts will scale from 2 cores to 16 cores
- No Hyper-Threading
- 14nm (confirmed via ARK)
- Intel TXT, improved AES-NI, QuickAssist Technology option on some SKUs
- Intel VT-x and VT-d for virtualization
- DDR4 and DDR3L support (expect most systems to be DDR4) – expect ~50% more RAM bandwidth
- Registered DDR4 DIMM support – 16GB modules will be readily available
- Dual channel RAM configuration with up to 2 DIMMs per channel for >2 core parts
- Maximum RAM of 64GB for dual core parts and 128GB for >2 core parts (confirmed for C3338 via ARK)
- Significantly improved IPC compared to the Avonton/ Rangeley cores. We expect a 70% or so raw performance improvement per core
- Lower IPC than Broadwell-DE and no L3 cache
- We expect to see 2MB L2 cache per core
That's amazing performance/watt from little Denverton.Thanks for the news!
SiSoftware Sandra 22.20 - Processor Multi-Media - Windows x64 10.0.6
• Intel Atom(TM) CPU C3955 @ 2.10GHz (16C 2.1GHz, 8x 2MB L2 cache, Goldmont - Denverton 31W TDP): 229.47Mpix/s
• AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor (4M 8T 4.84GHz, 2.63GHz IMC, 4x 2MB L2 cache, 8MB L3 cache, Steamroller 125W TDP): 223.16Mpix/s
Intel Atom C3000 Key Features
Thermal design points down to 8.5 watts to enable maximum energy efficiency.
Enhanced performance from 2 to 16 cores and frequencies from 1.5 Ghz to 2.2 Ghz.
Built-in hardware virtualization to enable dynamic provisioning of services as communication service providers extend network functions virtualization to the network edge. Now including Intel VT-d.
Intel x86 64-bit software support for scalable performance and broad application compatibility.
Integrated Intel QuickAssist technology with up to 20 Gbps of compression/encryption throughput.
4 x 10 GbE integrated Intel Ethernet to enable high-speed connectivity to the network.
Error-correcting code (ECC) memory for data integrity and system reliability through automatic data correction.
Flexible I/O lanes providing up to 16 SATA 3.0, 16 PCIE3, and 4 USB 3.0.
Extended temperature range and long-life support for dense network, storage, industrial IoT and autonomous driving environments.
DPDK (Data Plane Development Kit) helps to develop efficient applications for networking workloads.
SPDK (Storage Performance Development Kit) helps to develop efficient applications for storage workloads.
Still running multithreaded Dhrystone I see. Funny... Well no in fact that's not funny at all coming from a site that does home serving benchmarks.Intel Atom C3338 Benchmarks – Why Denverton is so Sweet
Really?The problem for Denverton is its too little too late against the ARM competition. Intel has basically lost the mobile war to ARM.
Link? I think you misremember with Rangeley.I know you are smarter than this. Denverton is a server product. Actually my memory tells me the first Atom server product, the Centerton did quite fantastic against ARM competition.
The main issue Intel had (apart from a poor CPU) is that their SoC were lacking, for instance a poor GPU, which seems to be the case here. So I'm not sure this will change anything.Here's real mobile Atom news: http://www.spreadtrum.com/en/show_news.html?id=fe766282-e9cc-4ffd-b211-e3d19675d3f7
8 core Airmont. The graphics are bit anemic compared to the CPU but its 8 core Atom, and an integrated LTE modem.
Now I know what Intel's problem was in mobile. Segmentation. Spreadtrum made a better Atom chip than Intel, the maker of Atom did. Intel was too afraid to make a good Atom cannibalize their Core line. The funny thing is Kirk Skaugen, the guy that got fired by current CEO Kraznich said they wouldn't allow such thing to hinder progress again(was referring to Itanium vs x86 but Atom vs Core is the same thing).
Poor GPU, poor image signal processor, poor memory controller (no support for the latest mem technologies), etc.Link? I think you misremember with Rangeley.
The main issue Intel had (apart from a poor CPU) is that their SoC were lacking, for instance a poor GPU, which seems to be the case here. So I'm not sure this will change anything.
They have split their core development into two, Skylake-X has AVX-512 and other changes that are not in Skylake/Kaby Lake-S.The problem for Denverton is its too little too late against the ARM competition. Intel has basically lost the mobile war to ARM. For the PC desktop, notebook and server market AMD is back with a vengeance. AMD has a single core which will run all of AMD's products going forward from ultra low power notebooks to high end desktops and servers. The kind of disruptive pricing we are seeing from Zen in the enthusiast desktop is likely to extend to servers and notebooks. imo Intel needs to split their core development into two. Their client core could combine the best of Atom and their current big core - power efficiency and very good performance without the unnecessary baggage of AVX-512. Their server core could go for wider AVX units as thats Intel's strategy for HPC against NVIDIA / AMD.
Actually Moorefield was decent. SoFIA was a true dissaster and that killed Broxton. Broxton would easily give a decent fight on the mid tier.Poor GPU, poor image signal processor, poor memory controller (no support for the latest mem technologies), etc.
Intel just sucks at mobile SoCs.
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