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Lifer
- Aug 14, 2000
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Yeah, except for the whole issue of ludicrously poor performance when running shaders, unlike the X1900 which generally has the edge in modern shader based games like Fear.
The X1900's major failing is the cooling solution but it has plenty of other advantages over the 7900 parts. 6xAA in particular is viable in many titles plus it's blazingly fast too. nVidia's 4xAA is inferior and the xS modes are generally far too slow to use except in old games.
Also nVidia has some attrocious bugs in some games when you use the xS modes and 16xAA seems to introduce mouse lag to many Direct3D titles even when the framerate is high.
For the application mode it most certainly did, the only mode that was superior to ATi. Under that mode it wasn't much faster than a Ti4600. The other two modes were both inferior to ATi's quality AF.
Not only was it generally unusably slow but it was very poor on edge AA. Also IIRC the xS modes weren't even available under OpenGL.
Yes, and we all know how fast this "DX10 precision" turned out in practice.
WOW what a waste of forum space over this kitty fight. STOP already and get back to availability of these cards 
Wreckage
Banned
- Jul 1, 2005
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It's not marketing. It's better cards, better support, better warranty, better fan base, etc.
You can cry all you want for your poor XTX because no one wants them now that the GTX is out. I will take NVIDIA's AF over ATI's blurry AA.
It seems only ATI people are really complaining about NVIDIA availability.
A simple price search shows several brands available.
Megatomic
Lifer
- Nov 9, 2000
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I'm sure my temps. would be lower if:
1. Ambient temp. in my computer were lower. It's already warm in daytime here in Texas.
2. The arctic ceramique needs to cure or set in a bit before it works it's best.
What are you using to load up your card with? Have you tried RTHDRIBL? If not, give that a shot and see how high your GPU temps. go.
moonboy403
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- Aug 18, 2004
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I.... Need.... My.... 7900GT.... SLI....
I havent moved from #108 in the step-up queue since Thursday
I havent moved from #108 in the step-up queue since Thursday
This was certainly the first fanboi post in this thread. And you get a * from me for even calling others "fanboys" in the same post.
- Aug 22, 2001
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Perhaps some of the next "crop" will feature full HDCP compliance on the cards, hence the delay?
Can you name me one game worth playing that came out within six months of the FX5800 that had shader performance issues? HL2 didn't quite make it IIRC. What you are trying to do is compare how the 5800 ended up fairing on games that were not close to out when it was released and then swapping that around and comparing the 1900 to a legacy title for its era.
Pretty much everything you wrote in this quote is factually wrong. The 5800 took a ~35% hit when running 8x application- link while the R9700Pro took about a 43% hit when running quality mode- link. That is reality- the FX5800Ultra took less of a performance hit then the R9700Pro percentage wise and was vastly superior in terms of IQ. I'm not asking you to rely on my memory- the proof is in the numbers.
It was about 18% slower then straight 4x- compared to ATi's 6x which was about 15% slower then 4x(ATi numbers, nVidia). In reality based on B3D's numbers nVidia's 4xS was less of a performance hit then ATi's 6x. Your memory is slipping in your old age
That's true, but nVidia is also capable of handling HDR+AA depending on the application so I figured that was a comparable point.
I thought we were talking about IQ here?
- Aug 22, 2001
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Till FarCry hit, My 5800U@550/1050 and Barton@2.43ghz played everything I tried very nicely@10x7 including Halo. Some games I could turn up AA/AF pretty high, others I couldn't. And I said then what others are saying now about noisy cards, game with cans or speakers cranked up, and the fan noise isn't really an issue because in 2D mode it was dead silent i.e. passively cooled. There was whine when you boot up, but I do DC 24/7 so even that was a non-issue.</thread jack>
This thread is silly.
I cant say I had problems tracking down a 7900.
I was placed #266 on Evga step-up program
4 buisness days later, I got confirmation to send mine out.
I also decided to go sli. ( casue the step up cost me a whole $9 for shipping )
I tracked down a bunch of cards. I checked the major retailers, most had them.
I checked LOCAL retailers, and I live in a fairly small town. And they even had some. Mostly BFG, but still.
I'm buying one tonight, and I'll be shipping my 7800 out tomorrow.
Happy days
I cant say I had problems tracking down a 7900.
I was placed #266 on Evga step-up program
4 buisness days later, I got confirmation to send mine out.
I also decided to go sli. ( casue the step up cost me a whole $9 for shipping )
I tracked down a bunch of cards. I checked the major retailers, most had them.
I checked LOCAL retailers, and I live in a fairly small town. And they even had some. Mostly BFG, but still.
I'm buying one tonight, and I'll be shipping my 7800 out tomorrow.
Happy days
I can't say I had that much trouble either. I ordered my evga 7900gt co yesterday from newegg and its waiting for me at my door back home right now.
Megatomic
Lifer
- Nov 9, 2000
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DAY2_7900GT_IDLE.JPG
So, after 24 hours of usage (with the PC off for 10 hours while I slept), the idle temp. has dropped down to 39C - this is with the PC on since 11am today. I've seen the temp. hit 38C at times, too.
A few more days and the GPU might run a degree or two above case temp max. at idle.
Ronin
Diamond Member
In fanboism is truth, color me fanboied.
Ask any retailer what's being purchased (or even the etailers). I wasn't posting a slant towards either company, just plain dollars and cents facts.
Originally posted by: Ronin
In fanboism is truth, color me fanboied.
Ask any retailer what's being purchased (or even the etailers). I wasn't posting a slant towards either company, just plain dollars and cents facts.
Busy day or did you have a chance to make that call?
Ronin
Diamond Member
Some of us work for a living, Robert. Perhaps you should consider doing the same.
You might also want to note that TSMC wouldn't be able to make those determinations, but the manufacturers themselves. If you read the original comment, you'll see that it was said in jest, and typical of your responses, you weren't able to comprehend that.
You, on the other hand, still maintain that 80-90C constantly sustained on a GPU is healthy and ok. Thank god you don't manufacture electronics.
You might also want to note that TSMC wouldn't be able to make those determinations, but the manufacturers themselves.
If you read the original comment, you'll see that it was said in jest, and typical of your responses, you weren't able to comprehend that.You, on the other hand, still maintain that 80-90C constantly sustained on a GPU is healthy and ok. Thank god you don't manufacture electronics.
Originally posted by: Ronin
Some of us work for a living, Robert. Perhaps you should consider doing the same.
You might also want to note that TSMC wouldn't be able to make those determinations, but the manufacturers themselves.
You, on the other hand, still maintain that 80-90C constantly sustained on a GPU is healthy and ok. Thank god you don't manufacture electronics.
This is why I really like the English language....soooo many cute of ways of saying "no."
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