The hunt for illegals is on.

[Svnla]

It's not really in doubt if you'll ever be accused of understand anything said by anyone reasonably smart.

Smart? You mean like "4rd grade english"? Who could be that dumb? Oh, it was you, in your own exact words.

Keep digging, lying, and boasting and I keep bitch slapping you in public.

 

[Puffnstuff]

The Nazis also started with a plan to deport jews and gradually moved onto concentration and then extermination as the war made each plan increasingly unrealistic. This is why I've pointed out there's no line that Trump/klan loyalists won't cross to demonstrate their faith.

Hey agent, how're things with you over in abnormalville? Deporting people here illegally is not racism, its enforcing the law plain and simple. Sent them home and make them pay a high price if they return. We have a legal process for immigrants to enter our country and its high time people had to abide by it.

 

[gplracer]

It's not really in doubt if you'll ever be accused of understanding anything said by anyone reasonably smart. For example, I've certainly said great things about western liberalism, but that would require the dumbest shits in the world to understand that's mostly white people.

Based on your logic from previous posts the people of Africa should have a moral responsibility to help you since they were the real reason blacks were brought to America since they captured them and handed them over.

 

[agent00f]

Smart? You mean like "4rd grade english"? Who could be that dumb? Oh, it was you, in your own exact words.

Keep digging and I keep bitch slapping you in public.

Great contrast in liberal vs conservative mental acumen when the gravest error you can find is forgetting to change some ordinal reference, as opposed to always behaving like trite trash when representing your ideology.

Hey agent, how're things with you over in abnormalville? Deporting people here illegally is not racism, its enforcing the law plain and simple. Sent them home and make them pay a high price if they return. We have a legal process for immigrants to enter our country and its high time people had to abide by it.

I would recommend reading about what a counterargument is, but your peers are dead set on proving the lot can barely read.

Based on your logic from previous posts the people of Africa should have a moral responsibility to help you since they were the real reason blacks were brought to America since they captured them and handed them over.

As if we needed more evidence that you've never meet klan literature you didn't like.

 

[gplracer]

Great contrast in liberal vs conservative mental acumen when the gravest error you can find is forgetting to change some ordinal reference, as opposed to always behaving like trite trash when representing your ideology.



I would recommend reading about what a counterargument is, but your peers are dead set on proving the lot can barely read.



As if we needed more evidence that you've never meet klan literature you didn't like.

Still waiting for those quotes....
While you are looking add where I said something about the Klan. You know more about it than me.

Not only are you unable to give facts to base your accusations you cannot even answer questions. You just randomly say things unrelated.

 

[agent00f]

Still waiting for those quotes....
While you are looking add where I said something about the Klan. You know more about it than me.

Not only are you unable to give facts to base your accusations you cannot even answer questions. You just randomly say things unrelated.

It's simply a fact that the klan love to point out that africans are just as culpable for slavery, consistent with conservative mentality when it comes to moral responsibility and despite the other fact that importation of slaves end long before slavery; and it's no coincidence you love it, too.

It's also matter of course that smarter people can see right through transparent dummies, just as even you might be able to see through svnla.

 

[raildogg]

Racism is not limited to one group, race, or country. It's only a symptom of mankind's many, many flaws.

We shouldn't pay attention only to one flaw and ignore all the rest. Man is a deeply flawed being and needs to be looked at as a whole.

 

[agent00f]

Racism is not limited to one group, race, or country. It's only a symptom of mankind's many, many flaws.

We shouldn't pay attention only to one flaw and ignore all the rest. Man is a deeply flawed being and needs to be looked at as a whole.

We should pay attention to it when the winning platform for the presidency is predicated on scapegoating/targeting lower status minorities. Our country has a pretty illustrative history of this, such as the southern strategy that's the basis of politics post-segregation, or our civil war as result of slavery.

Ignoring the reality of this only plays into people who don't want to take any responsibility for their reliable advocacy for the wrong side of history.

 

[Sea Ray]

Even Heritage found that they pay billions in taxes. That illegal immigrants pay taxes is an incontrovertible fact.

By that definition Trump pays taxes even if his tax return says he didn't. Can't we agree here that if illegals are paid "under the table" taxes are going unpaid? Can we be reasonable here?

 

[Svnla]

Demonstrably untrue. They pay many billions in taxes.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...ow-much-do-undocumented-immigrants-pay-taxes/

Them ILLEGALS also use BILLIONS and BILLIONS in services. Let see some of the many costs for ILLEGALS: ESL classes, public assistance, medical care and schools. Some immigrant neighborhoods have particularly high crime rates. Areas in which low-educated workers are most likely to face stiff competition from ILLEGALS. Most of them ILLEGALS are in low paying jobs so their taxes are not high plus don't forget about under the table payments.

Here in Dallas, let see who has been paying for the cost of ILLEGALS births = https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...tal-in-dallas-tx-are-by-illegal-moms.2096318/

Funny how NO ONE, nada, zip, not a single country is running and screaming to take them ILLEGALS off our hands if they are such beneficial as some of you are claiming. Facts are facts.

 

[gplracer]

Them ILLEGALS also use BILLIONS and BILLIONS in services. Let see some of the many costs for ILLEGALS: ESL classes, public assistance, medical care and schools. Some immigrant neighborhoods have particularly high crime rates. Areas in which low-educated workers are most likely to face stiff competition from ILLEGALS.

Here in Dallas, let see who has been paying for the cost of ILLEGALS births = https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...tal-in-dallas-tx-are-by-illegal-moms.2096318/

Funny how NO ONE, nada, zip, not a single country is running and screaming to take them ILLEGALS of our hands if they are such beneficial as some of you are claiming. Facts are facts.

Not even their own country where they came from. What does that tell you?

 

[Sea Ray]

I would recommend reading about what a counterargument is, but your peers are dead set on proving the lot can barely read.

Ivory tower liberal crap. You think you're the smartest one in the room and everyone who doesn't agree with you's an idiot. We had 8 yrs of that kind of thinking from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. See where it got you? Folks were so fed up with that sort of thinking they gave us Trump

 

[Jhhnn]

Hey agent, how're things with you over in abnormalville? Deporting people here illegally is not racism, its enforcing the law plain and simple. Sent them home and make them pay a high price if they return. We have a legal process for immigrants to enter our country and its high time people had to abide by it.

And their American citizen children? About 4.5M of them?

Try to find some artful way to say "Fuck those little brown bastids! Shoulda picked better parents!"

 

[Jhhnn]

By that definition Trump pays taxes even if his tax return says he didn't. Can't we agree here that if illegals are paid "under the table" taxes are going unpaid? Can we be reasonable here?

Please. Nearly half the households in this country pay no federal income tax, usually people in the same income bracket as illegals or higher. Illegals working under purloined SS#'s are subject to payroll taxes like everybody else. They also pay the same sales taxes & hidden taxes as the rest of us.

Their values & lifestyles are quite traditional. The men work & more of the women take traditional homemaker roles. They're generally religious & family oriented as well. Good strong conservative values.

 

[Puffnstuff]

And their American citizen children? About 4.5M of them?

Try to find some artful way to say "Fuck those little brown bastids! Shoulda picked better parents!"

When the founding fathers made that clause it was with the assumption that the parents would be here legally. Children of illegal parents shouldn't be granted citizenship and should be expelled right along with their parents to their country of origin.

 

[Jhhnn]

When the founding fathers made that clause it was with the assumption that the parents would be here legally. Children of illegal parents shouldn't be granted citizenship and should be expelled right along with their parents to their country of origin.

Their citizenship is inviolate. It can't be revoked. You can try to change the future but not the past. Therefore you haven't dealt with the issue honestly.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Their citizenship is inviolate. It can't be revoked. You can try to change the future but not the past. Therefore you haven't dealt with the issue honestly.

Of course it can be revoked.
http://immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html

 

[Victorian Gray]

Of course it can be revoked.
http://immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html

What part of "born citizens" do you not understand?

 

[K1052]

By that definition Trump pays taxes even if his tax return says he didn't. Can't we agree here that if illegals are paid "under the table" taxes are going unpaid? Can we be reasonable here?

If anybody is paid under the table they aren't paying income or payroll taxes. The allegations made about Trump's taxes were more specific...that he paid little to no Federal income tax. Lots of illegals use SS numbers that aren't theirs and pay into a system that they will never see anything out of.

 

[K1052]

Them ILLEGALS also use BILLIONS and BILLIONS in services. Let see some of the many costs for ILLEGALS: ESL classes, public assistance, medical care and schools. Some immigrant neighborhoods have particularly high crime rates. Areas in which low-educated workers are most likely to face stiff competition from ILLEGALS. Most of them ILLEGALS are in low paying jobs so their taxes are not high plus don't forget about under the table payments.

Here in Dallas, let see who has been paying for the cost of ILLEGALS births = https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...tal-in-dallas-tx-are-by-illegal-moms.2096318/

Funny how NO ONE, nada, zip, not a single country is running and screaming to take them ILLEGALS off our hands if they are such beneficial as some of you are claiming. Facts are facts.

That's a different argument than "They pay no tax". A more comprehensive way to look at the issue is probably by economic activity which is plausibly in the hundreds of billions just from illegal immigrants. It is hard to deny that their presence isn't massively beneficial to our economy. Pretty much every study done on what would actually happen if somebody like Trump decided to try sending all 11Mish back shows that the economy would take a massive hit and grow much more slowly over the long term. This is not sound policy. Sound policy would be bringing those people into the system in a way that lets us keep track of them, they pay more in taxes, and makes the societal problems more practically addressable.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

What part of "born citizens" do you not understand?

What part of Supreme Court ruling do you not comprehend?

 

[Jhhnn]

What part of Supreme Court ruling do you not comprehend?

The distinction between naturalized & native born is the part you're deliberately avoiding.

Children born in this country are not naturalized citizens.

 

[Sea Ray]

Please. Nearly half the households in this country pay no federal income tax, usually people in the same income bracket as illegals or higher. Illegals working under purloined SS#'s are subject to payroll taxes like everybody else. They also pay the same sales taxes & hidden taxes as the rest of us.

Their values & lifestyles are quite traditional. The men work & more of the women take traditional homemaker roles. They're generally religious & family oriented as well. Good strong conservative values.

Did you miss the part where I said "those that are paid under the table" or did you just decide to create your own strawman 'cause you couldn't counter my statement?

 

[Jhhnn]

Did you miss the part where I said "those that are paid under the table" or did you just decide to create your own strawman 'cause you couldn't counter my statement?

I pointed out that those working under the table mostly wouldn't be required to pay federal income taxes if they were above the table. They don't make enough money. That renders your so-called point immaterial.

 

[Victorian Gray]

What part of Supreme Court ruling do you not comprehend?

Natural Born Citizen.