The hidden violence of the socialistic mindset

[Victorian Gray]

I swear, BM, that born a few decades earlier and you'd have been right at home standing with George Wallace at the Univ. of Alabama, attempting to deny blacks entry to that school. Or a few decades earlier than that and you'd have been at the forefront of trying to quash the right to vote women were attempting to acquire.

Oops, you're liable to get the full script with this one.

 

[JSt0rm]

 

[Blue_Max]

I swear, BM, that born a few decades earlier and you'd have been right at home standing with George Wallace at the Univ. of Alabama, attempting to deny blacks entry to that school. Or a few decades earlier than that and you'd have been at the forefront of trying to quash the right to vote women were attempting to acquire.

Rule #1 yet again. Hurl accusatory insults, incite anger and emotion.
Give me an argument. Give me your data/facts. Prove your point?

Nope. Nothing but insults. As usual.

 

[WelshBloke]

Heh... well, if you don't have any factual evidence to go on (which you don't) just keep slingin' those insults around. It's rule number one in the SJW/liberal/feminist playbook.

Rule #1, no logical debate! discredit through insults and mockery
Rule #2, use Power Words like 'rapist' and 'misogynist' to incite rebellion and anger in bystanders
Rule #3, if the target refuses to give up, silence him by any means necessary. Use powerful people to block or remove him, including employers and police. Tell any story required to get him in trouble. Pain by proxy.

That'll teach 'em to know your side is the correct one.

Facts? Who needs those? It's all about feelings, kids.
If your feeeelings are hurt, well, it MUST be wrong! It MUST be evil! REVENGE!!


Looney liberals.

Given that you're failing rule one yourself, rule two is total bollocks and rule three isn't happening it's probably worth rethinking your rules (especially if you're going to share them. Feel free to keep whatever bonkers, ill thought out rules to your self, that way you won't feel bad when people point and laugh).

 

[mikeymikec]

I reflect on the reality of the inherent, unrelenting violence and injustice of all states areas/times and I am not content with the state as a necessary evil. States are evil institutions and are vastly superior in robbing and killing than any alternative ever created.

Time to go live on an island alone then I guess...

 

[WelshBloke]

Time to go live on an island alone then I guess...

Until the island next door comes and robs and kills him because they formed a functional collective state.

 

[brycejones]

Except mine is accurate. Yours is not.

#1. Show me where I'm claiming to be a victim. You make the claim, you back it up. Of course I've yet to see even ONE of the lib/fem/SJW-side's claims backed up yet so I won't hold my breath.
One down.

#2. These 'rules' are a well-known observation of the typical attack patterns of the SJW. It very, very rarely deviates from this format. Your rebuttal is exactly that. You say my position is BS? Mine is backed up from facts and figures from government and police statistics. Your own precious pay gap theory is debunked by the very same 'report' it came from in the first place because that very report showed men working >9h more per week than women were. That difference in working hours ALONE makes up most of the difference in FINAL PAY. Oh, and it's been illegal to pay a woman less for 40 years now. So who's clinging to BS, eh?

If you want to say I'm wrong, PROVE IT. Calling people names won't replace facts in a debate.

...but then, this isn't a logical debate, is it? Discussion of ideas and problems is verboten. Only your opinions shall be tolerated, other opinions are not discussed - only shouted down. Nobody's silencing you - you're silencing them.

Thank you for proving my point.

 

[fskimospy]

Thank you for proving my point.

Haha, that is pretty great.

'I've never claimed to be a victim but everyone's picking on me and shouting me down'.

 

[WelshBloke]

Seriously. When did people get so whiny and butthurt about life?

 

[realibrad]

Seriously. When did people get so whiny and butthurt about life?

Don't know, but its annoying.

The religious side want to do what ever their religion tells them, and then also things their religion does not.

The SJW want to make everyone a unicorn sis gender dragon.

Liberals want X, Conservatives want x, but they think they want something different.

We live in a world where people think they have a right to not be offended, and they are offended when you disagree.

 

[thraashman]

Seriously. When did people get so whiny and butthurt about life?

For people like Blue_Max, right around the time women were given suffrage.

 

[realibrad]

For people like Blue_Max, right around the time women were given suffrage.

The problem with Blue is that he touches on real things, but seems to have gotten lost somewhere.

http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender Wage Gap Final Report.pdf

There are observable differences in the attributes of men and women that account for most of the
wage gap. Statistical analysis that includes those variables has produced results that collectively
account for between 65.1 and 76.4 percent of a raw gender wage gap of 20.4 percent, and
thereby leave an adjusted gender wage gap that is between 4.8 and 7.1 percent

So, to someone like Blue, he does like that this is not explained, and honestly, I don't like it either. I am all for equality, but when our leadership slants situations for political gain, we get information that leads us to want the wrong things.

Blue is someone who has attached to a real issue, but does not really have the ability to express his opinion in ways that people like. There is some logic behind his rants though, but it gets dismissed because people write him off as sexist.

Its far easier to dismiss an argument when you label the source as dumb.

 

[thraashman]

The problem with Blue is that he touches on real things, but seems to have gotten lost somewhere.

http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender Wage Gap Final Report.pdf



So, to someone like Blue, he does like that this is not explained, and honestly, I don't like it either. I am all for equality, but when our leadership slants situations for political gain, we get information that leads us to want the wrong things.

Blue is someone who has attached to a real issue, but does not really have the ability to express his opinion in ways that people like. There is some logic behind his rants though, but it gets dismissed because people write him off as sexist.

Its far easier to dismiss an argument when you label the source as dumb.

Well there's having a discussion and there's having an argument. You for example appear to want to have a discussion, that's good. It's something that can be worked with and built on. Blue IS sexist and IS dumb so yes that makes it virtually impossible to have a discussion with him, therefore we have arguments. I honestly largely gave up on having discussions in P&N some time ago as they are virtually non existent. I'll pop in every so often to have one though.

 

[realibrad]

Well there's having a discussion and there's having an argument. You for example appear to want to have a discussion, that's good. It's something that can be worked with and built on. Blue IS sexist and IS dumb so yes that makes it virtually impossible to have a discussion with him, therefore we have arguments. I honestly largely gave up on having discussions in P&N some time ago as they are virtually non existent. I'll pop in every so often to have one though.

Then feel free to PM me sometime. I still try to have discussions on here, and this has become one of the only places I can. Trying to talk to people in person gets complicated and emotions shut down things.

From my view, there is a real problem with the current political climate. We have people who I think want to do good, but get lost. Blue is doing the same thing as modern feminist who try to say gender is 100% a social construct. Gender is partly a social construct, but there is also a biological part. We are a gender dysmorphic species and as such are different. Where those differences start and end is fun to talk about, but there is a start and end.

Its hard to have a rational discussion with someone who says they are an Otherkin Unicorn about self identity.

 

[Jaskalas]

Weird how the Bernie Sanders is against militarization of the police and spying on Americans. As opposed to everyone else who support it because, you know, 'Merica!

Sounds like a rare gem these days.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Sounds like a rare gem these days.

Oh please. Are you really going to bite another worm dangling in the water? Smh, some people never learn I guess. Keep hoping against hope that these politicians have any sense of honesty or integrity. Keep the faith brother! Thou government God shall set you free!

I counted you as being much smarter than that but faith destroys reason I suppose.

 

[Attic]

Weird how the Bernie Sanders is against militarization of the police and spying on Americans. As opposed to everyone else who support it because, you know, 'Merica!

The catch is that most people are against militarization of the police and spying on americans.

Politicians, to pander to voters, claim the are aligned with most Americans on the issue. So how can we have increased militarization of police and spying on Americans?!? It doesn't jive.

Regarding politicians on this and many topics they speak on.

The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink.

-Orwell

If there is one word to describe most politicians who get elected, it is insincerity. From what I can see, a lot of folks are still confused on why politicians say one thing and do another. It should be pretty clear, because the politicians are not representing the voters.

"But politicians are suppose to represent the voters, that's what we were taught, that's the model."

No, that is one of the great deceptions. Things make a lot more sense once it is accepted that politicians will and do routinely lie and deceive about everything. *and not just the other side does this

Carlin also nails it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0

 

[ivwshane]

The catch is that most people are against militarization of the police and spying on americans.

Politicians, to pander to voters, claim the are aligned with most Americans on the issue. So how can we have increased militarization of police and spying on Americans?!? It doesn't jive.

Regarding politicians on this and many topics they speak on.


-Orwell

If there is one word to describe most politicians who get elected, it is insincerity. From what I can see, a lot of folks are still confused on why politicians say one thing and do another. It should be pretty clear, because the politicians are not representing the voters.

"But politicians are suppose to represent the voters, that's what we were taught, that's the model.

No, that is one of the great deceptions. Things make a lot more sense once it is accepted that politicians will and do routinely lie and deceive about everything.

It should be pretty easy for you to prove your assertions and show how sanders record doesn't jive with his policy positions. Or was this just another generic post about all politicians so you don't have to actually look at one particular politicians record?

The new play from the right this year is to claim everything as being the same. It's a defensive position that allows them to insulate themselves from reality...the reality being that those they supported not only didn't change things but that they got duped by them.

 

[realibrad]

It should be pretty easy for you to prove your assertions and show how sanders record doesn't jive with his policy positions. Or was this just another generic post about all politicians so you don't have to actually look at one particular politicians record?

The new play from the right this year is to claim everything as being the same. It's a defensive position that allows them to insulate themselves from reality...the reality being that those they supported not only didn't change things but that they got duped by them.

I think his statement was more of a general rule about those in politics.

Also, I did find something, but its hard to tell what it is. Other than this, he seems to be consistent though.

Voted YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight. (Apr 2006)

I cant find the context on this though, so it could have been a poison pill thing.

 

[JSt0rm]

Blue max will answer you all after his pizza delivery job ends.

 

[realibrad]

Blue max will answer you all after his pizza delivery job ends.

This is what I mean.

If his arguments were wrong, explain how they are wrong. You don't need to try and ad hominem his character.

 

[WelshBloke]

This is what I mean.

If his arguments were wrong, explain how they are wrong. You don't need to try and ad hominem his character.

Well as far as I can see he hasn't made any in this thread. He's just gone "OMG!! Liberals" "OMG!! Feminists!!" "OMG!! SJWs!!!" "STOP PICKING ON ME!!!!"

 

[MrPickins]

You realize that guy pulled his dick out at an anti-rape rally, right?

That's the example you want to use for your oppression? :hmm:

 

[brycejones]

You realize that guy pulled his dick out at an anti-rape rally, right?

That's the example you want to use for your oppression? :hmm:

You have a source? That's priceless.

Google image search works wonders. Seems to be a pretty accurate statement of what happened. My guess is that BM views the guy as some kind of hero.

 

[IronWing]

You realize that guy pulled his dick out at an anti-rape rally, right?

That's the example you want to use for your oppression? :hmm:

That takes balls.