pcgeek11
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Meghan54
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Why would you ask that? Did you bother to read the article? Seems pretty clear cut to me....friend of Q Shaman idiot and filmed with him inside the Capitol, denied being press to cop while inside Capitol, told the FBI he'd "raided" the Capitol and believed the Big Lie, etc., etc. So where's the parts to be unsure about.....???
Heartbreaker
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Sounds like a card carrying member of the Mob trying to blame Antifa. I don't think cooperating after the fact will get anyone out of initial charges, though it may be a mitigating factor later.
But it seems so far most of the caught claim they were pushed inside by the mob, or they were acting as press without credentials.
hal2kilo
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Zorba
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Lanyap
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This probably replicates or summarises things that have already been posted in this thread, but it's a very long thread. I know I said I wasn't keen on legally throwing the book at all the participants, but I've run out of energy to pay attention and/or care at this point, and just have to hope the legal system can sort it all out in a rational manner, with whatever charges and sentences that are appropriate.
(Though references to possible 20-year sentences just make me think of how brutal and inept the US prison system appears to be - maybe if a lot of white conservative people end up serving such sentences it will increase the pressure to make that system more humane for everyone in it?)
www.theguardian.com
(Though references to possible 20-year sentences just make me think of how brutal and inept the US prison system appears to be - maybe if a lot of white conservative people end up serving such sentences it will increase the pressure to make that system more humane for everyone in it?)
Seditionaries: FBI net closes on Maga mob that stormed the Capitol
A huge investigation has so far arrested 235 people, including far-right militants, members of the military – and otherwise unremarkable Trump fans
Fanatical Meat
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Another obvious Antifa member charged, now with footage of him complaining about “Multicultural Hell Holes”
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/07/us/capitol-riot-defendant-racist-public-hearing/index.html
Totally an Antifa supporter.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/07/us/capitol-riot-defendant-racist-public-hearing/index.html
Totally an Antifa supporter.
WelshBloke
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Fanatical Meat
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Some deplorable’s are see Brandon Bullshit and a few of my buddies.
WelshBloke
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I suppose that all the people on video and/or caught are rabid Trumpies just reinforces their idea that its all a conspiracy by the "Deep State™"?
KMFJD
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FIRST ON CBS7: FBI raids home of Alpine man who took part in Capitol riot
Sean Watson believes his actions at the Capitol on Jan. 6 were necessary.
-Watson isn’t worried.
“We didn’t do anything other than just being there,” he said.
Watson says it was when trump supporters were tear-gassed and hit with batons that they decided to storm the Capitol.
-The homeowner, Sean Watson, freely admits he was one of the people who stormed the capitol on Jan. 6.
“Yes, I was one of the people who went into the Capitol Building,” he said.
just lol
Fenixgoon
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Damn that is some white privilege on displayFIRST ON CBS7: FBI raids home of Alpine man who took part in Capitol riot
Sean Watson believes his actions at the Capitol on Jan. 6 were necessary.www.cbs7.com
-Watson isn’t worried.
“We didn’t do anything other than just being there,” he said.
Watson says it was when trump supporters were tear-gassed and hit with batons that they decided to storm the Capitol.
-The homeowner, Sean Watson, freely admits he was one of the people who stormed the capitol on Jan. 6.
“Yes, I was one of the people who went into the Capitol Building,” he said.
just lol
People I know from my hometown all fervently believe it was mostly antifa attempting to frame Trump supporters. Not joking.
Now if only Margie Greene gets implicated in this one way or another it would make my day as it would surely ruin hers.
And to all of you insurrectionists who thought it was one hell of an idea to storm the Capitol in order to give back to Donald what was stolen from him I ask you "what do you think of Donald now since he put you all up to this defense fund scheme of his and he still hasn't sent his lawyers out to you gratis for helping him scam you one last time?"
And to all of you insurrectionists who thought it was one hell of an idea to storm the Capitol in order to give back to Donald what was stolen from him I ask you "what do you think of Donald now since he put you all up to this defense fund scheme of his and he still hasn't sent his lawyers out to you gratis for helping him scam you one last time?"
WelshBloke
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How are they dealing with the fact that everyone arrested or having video evidence being there are Trumpies? Its not like these people are hiding themselves or their history!
They acknowledge that some of them were Trump supporters but they No True Scotsman it by saying they aren't real Trump supporters because Real Trump Supporters are law abiding. If memory serves there so far has been a single person identified who appears to have had some antifa-y sympathies at some point in the past, and they point to this person as proof that antifa was behind the whole thing.
If your next question is why dozens and dozens of clear Trump supporters being involved somehow doesn't mean it was orchestrated by Trump supporters but a single antifa-y person means it was orchestrated by antifa well, we aren't exactly dealing with rational people here.
Fanatical Meat
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Yeah that’s pretty much where my deplorable’s are at.
I sort of agree because like BLM shit that gets out of hand Anarchists are attracted to these events. Where the Anarchist and where the MAGA tard overlap is tough to figure out.
Good news is my main bullshitter MAGA man is going to honor a $100 bet I made with him end summer where he said if shit goes down he will be in Washington.
Shit went down and he wasn’t in Washington. Dude we both know pointed it out.
The main difference between BLM protests and this is that while it’s true there was violence and destruction of property at BLM protests in many cases we genuinely don’t know who did it, so such an explanation is plausible. In the case of the Capitol insurrection we know exactly who did it because they filmed themselves doing it and bragged about it.
These people just live in a totally separate reality from the rest of us. Trump bragging on tape about sexually assaulting people doesn’t mean he sexually assaults people. Trump supporters filming themselves attacking the Capitol doesn’t mean Trump supporters attacked the Capitol.
nOOky
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Very briefly I have actually felt sorry for them. Like an elderly person defrauded of their life savings by a swindler, they got took. The ultimate kick in the ass for these poor morons is the fact that he didn't pardon them. Why would he not pardon all of them? They are his base, his true believers, the loyal subjects. They pledged their fealty to him, withstood ridicule, the hate of the other side, all to do this for him. They travelled to right a yuge wrong, took time off work (haha), spent money on fast food to defend Democracy. All for the fact that DJT was screwed and is the truly anointed president for life!
Why didn't he pardon them? Could it be that DJT would be admitting to some guilt or responsibility himself if he did? Did Ghouliani actually have a lucid moment and advise DJT to save himself only? We'll never know, because they themselves probably don't remember, if put on a witness stand.
Facts don't matter to those engaged in conspiracy thinking. There's always another level down, another explanation to get around the inconvenient truth. A lot of us can look at the loony garbage like qAnon "beliefs" and wonder how functional adults can actually follow it (or flat earth, or young earth etc)...but they aren't going from point A to point Z. Incremental steps don't seem insane, it's only when you are outside of it that you can see how crazy it all is.
This country is ****ed. We have a huge percentage of citizens opposed to science and fact and with social media and tailored "news" I don't see it improving. Biden is a reprieve.
This country is ****ed. We have a huge percentage of citizens opposed to science and fact and with social media and tailored "news" I don't see it improving. Biden is a reprieve.
Viper1j
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zzyzxroad
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He turned in footage after his coworker publicly identified him right?
“This man, with the glasses and mask, is Brian McCreary, my co-worker from Domino’s Pizza,” the caption read. The tweet has since received more than 82,000 likes."
Guessing he is not as innocent as he want you to believe he is.
"On Thursday, McCreary, a 33-year-old who lives in North Adams, was arrested and charged with two counts of illegal entry and three counts of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds."
Looks like this was covered. I shoudl have read the rest of the post before I chimed in.
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hal2kilo
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More of the "they made me do it" defense. And the are so many "theys".FIRST ON CBS7: FBI raids home of Alpine man who took part in Capitol riot
Sean Watson believes his actions at the Capitol on Jan. 6 were necessary.
-Watson isn’t worried.
“We didn’t do anything other than just being there,” he said.
Watson says it was when trump supporters were tear-gassed and hit with batons that they decided to storm the Capitol.
-The homeowner, Sean Watson, freely admits he was one of the people who stormed the capitol on Jan. 6.
“Yes, I was one of the people who went into the Capitol Building,” he said.
just lol
zzyzxroad
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If your house looks like that you just might be 100% insane. His "we didn't do anything wrong until the police provoked us" defense does seems air tight.
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