The GTX 780, 770, 760 ti Thread *First review leaked $700+?*

[Puffnstuff]

amd = ati and I won't buy another.

 

[ICDP]

amd = ati and I won't buy another.

Then your opinion on the current state of AMD drivers and performance is irrelevent because you simply have no experience with either. You can't claim "ATI" has worse drivers and performance while basing your opinion on old tech/software. Similarly if I were to claim Nvidia sucks because the GeForce FX is crap in DX9 I would expect my opinion to be ridiculed.

 

[Crap Daddy]

Your link shows the 780 for 887 Euro from an etailor further in? That is as much as a Titan. Even account for VAT I doubt the card will cost that much. $650-$750 is my guess, with $700 probably being the most likely. The card is too close to the Titan in specs to cost $500, no one would buy a Titan, unless that card has price drops coming.

$700.

Quite possible it's $699. Never mind it's damn expensive but if the 780 will cost as much then the 770, which will be probably 15-20% slower, will be what? $500?!

 

[Face2Face]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-GTX-770-Photos-Specs-Chiphell-Release-Date,22559.html

What appears to be different is the PCB design. Apparently, the card has a lot more overclocking headroom due to a standard TDP of 250 W (vs. the 195 W of the GTX 680). The default voltage would also be above 1.3 V. The card would be fueled by a 6-pin and 8-pin PCIe power connector setup. The PCB is reportedly much more similar to the design of the GTX Titan rather than the GTX 680, although this particular sample could be an engineering sample.

It also appears that the card will launch on May 30, 2013.

 

[f1sherman]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-GTX-770-Photos-Specs-Chiphell-Release-Date,22559.html

What appears to be different is the PCB design. Apparently, the card has a lot more overclocking headroom due to a standard TDP of 250 W (vs. the 195 W of the GTX 680). The default voltage would also be above 1.3 V. The card would be fueled by a 6-pin and 8-pin PCIe power connector setup. The PCB is reportedly much more similar to the design of the GTX Titan rather than the GTX 680, although this particular sample could be an engineering sample.

It also appears that the card will launch on May 30, 2013.

GK-104 done REALLY right!

Is that another answer why the voltage manipulation has been hampered so far?
Coming to a next gen they usually unlock additional cluster - this time they unlock/raise TDP (and slap a fancy cooler, better PCB/components)
770 like that would be sweet. Depending on the price ofc, but you have to admit - NVIDIA really knows how to spin their dies ^_^

 

[willomz]

I'm puzzled by what they mean by default voltage?

1.3+v sounds awfully high, maybe as a very top boost state, but I can't imagine that would be a typical voltage at all.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Sounds like silly season is in full swing.

 

[f1sherman]

GK-104 done REALLY right!

uh...I forgot that bandwidth remains the same. So this will unavoidably be a limiting factor

 

[Rvenger]

If the 770 gets released in a 4gb model, count me in. If not, forget it.

 

[lagokc]

The 760Ti and 770 look like they'll be even closer in performance than the 670 and 680.

 

[blackened23]

If the 770 gets released in a 4gb model, count me in. If not, forget it.

Is there anything that makes you believe it won't be 2/4GB just like the GTX 670? I'm certain there will be 4GB versions. That won't be the baseline, though, 2GB will be.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

Actually I take back what I said, pricing for the 780 is estimated between £425 and £510 for the UK which is more or less what flagship cards have always cost (outside of price gouging due to supply issues), so rather tempted to save up for one of these.

 

[blackened23]

Actually I take back what I said, pricing for the 780 is estimated between £425 and £510 for the UK which is more or less what flagship cards have always cost (outside of price gouging due to supply issues), so rather tempted to save up for one of these.

Yeah, contrary to what some have said I feel like nvidia wants to make the GTX 780 an actual volume part with optimized profit maximization (explanation on prior page). Prices will be slightly higher than normal because they can use these chips in the HPC market, but there is no way they will price it 800$ as some here predicted. Perhaps if it had 5-6GB VRAM, 800$ would be realistic - GDDR5 is not cheap as I mentioned. But with 3GB, I can't see it being more than 600$ Maybe even less. They could do 650$, but that would really be pushing it.

All of the price estimations i've seen indicate prices no higher than 600$ US. But, I guess we'll see a week from now.

 

[tviceman]

Sounds like silly season is in full swing.

Gotta love nvidia releases, they do a much better job at keeping final specs and info on lockdown than AMD, (although AMD did a good job with cayman). It allows for a longer and more amusing silly season.

 

[blackened23]

Gotta love nvidia releases, they do a much better job at keeping final specs and info on lockdown than AMD, (although AMD did a good job with cayman). It allows for a longer and more amusing silly season.

Silly season hasn't been awfully bad in this thread, has it? I admit I completely avoid some of the other threads (PS4, any FX1 thread) due to childish posts/behaviour, so maybe i'm under an incorrect impression. Seems okay from what I've seen so far.

 

[Fx1]

Silly season hasn't been awfully bad in this thread, has it? I admit I completely avoid some of the other threads (PS4, any FX1 thread) due to childish posts/behaviour, so maybe i'm under an incorrect impression. Seems okay from what I've seen so far.

Yeh because everything you post is just world class.

Like how we would never see 4k resolution in 30" monitors.

 

[Genx87]

Yeah, contrary to what some have said I feel like nvidia wants to make the GTX 780 an actual volume part with optimized profit maximization (explanation on prior page). Prices will be slightly higher than normal because they can use these chips in the HPC market, but there is no way they will price it 800$ as some here predicted. Perhaps if it had 5-6GB VRAM, 800$ would be realistic - GDDR5 is not cheap as I mentioned. But with 3GB, I can't see it being more than 600$ Maybe even less. They could do 650$, but that would really be pushing it.

All of the price estimations i've seen indicate prices no higher than 600$ US. But, I guess we'll see a week from now.

I look at it like this. If they release the 770 and 780 at 699 and 599 like some believe. WTF will they do with the 680 and 670? Nvidia typically replaces previous generations lines. That would leave a massive price gap for Nvidia. I full expect the 770 to be in the 399 range and the 780 in the 499 range. They may bump is 50 bucks to test the waters. But I dont see these the 780 going for 700-800 like some believe nor the 770 going for 600.

 

[tviceman]

Yeh because everything you post is just world class.

Like how we would never see 4k resolution in 30" monitors.

Nice, straight up attack one of the most neutral and intelligent posters on here. World class you say? You're a trip man. You've got to be the most uninformed poster on here, and lately you've topped it off with personality. What you spout never makes sense, what you complain about is ridiculously stupid, and why you even continue is beyond my (or most VC&G goers) comprehension. Notice how pretty much everyone argues with you? It's because you're doing it wrong. And by "it," I mean everything.

 

[Fx1]

Nice, straight up attack one of the most neutral and intelligent posters on here. World class you say? You're a trip man. You've got to be the most uninformed poster on here, and lately you've topped it off with personality. What you spout never makes sense, what you complain about is ridiculously stupid, and why you even continue is beyond my (or most VC&G goers) comprehension. Notice how pretty much everyone argues with you? It's because you're doing it wrong. And by "it," I mean everything.

No only the Nvidia camp have the problems. Going to be real funny if i pick up a 780 GTX next time around wont it.

 

[tviceman]

Has this been posted yet? Supposed box art for an Inno3D gtx780. Article says 12 SMX's 384-bit bus. IMO that is better than 13 SMX's and 320-bit bus. And 3gb of vram? I think that raises the possibility of $599 instead of the $699-749 price tag that has been suggested/rumored/hinted at.

http://videocardz.com/41483/inno3d-geforce-gtx-780-boxing-pictured-specifications-confirmed

 

[PrincessFrosty]

Yeah, contrary to what some have said I feel like nvidia wants to make the GTX 780 an actual volume part with optimized profit maximization (explanation on prior page). Prices will be slightly higher than normal because they can use these chips in the HPC market, but there is no way they will price it 800$ as some here predicted. Perhaps if it had 5-6GB VRAM, 800$ would be realistic - GDDR5 is not cheap as I mentioned. But with 3GB, I can't see it being more than 600$ Maybe even less. They could do 650$, but that would really be pushing it.

All of the price estimations i've seen indicate prices no higher than 600$ US. But, I guess we'll see a week from now.

I hope so, I'm guessing that these are chipped binned as not quite stable for Titan parts and I'm also assuming titan yield is quite low (partly why its cost is so high) which means hopefully there will be a decent supply of these bad boys.

In the UK single GPU flagship cards have always been in the £450 range at launch, if the 780 is around that I can see myself getting one, it depends mostly on supply, if it's low then the UK will price gouge as always leading to me probably having one shipped from the US just like I did with my Ultrabook, seriously fuck the UK market.

I'm not sure how I feel about 3Gb vRAM, I think maybe 4Gb would have been more appropriate for this card lasting a good few years at max settings, mostly depends on what vRAM limitations we have in the new consoles as to how this will fare.

 

[Fx1]

I hope so, I'm guessing that these are chipped binned as not quite stable for Titan parts and I'm also assuming titan yield is quite low (partly why its cost is so high) which means hopefully there will be a decent supply of these bad boys.

In the UK single GPU flagship cards have always been in the £450 range at launch, if the 780 is around that I can see myself getting one, it depends mostly on supply, if it's low then the UK will price gouge as always leading to me probably having one shipped from the US just like I did with my Ultrabook, seriously fuck the UK market.

I'm not sure how I feel about 3Gb vRAM, I think maybe 4Gb would have been more appropriate for this card lasting a good few years at max settings, mostly depends on what vRAM limitations we have in the new consoles as to how this will fare.

The GPU will choke long before the VRAM runs out.

 

[blackened23]

I hope so, I'm guessing that these are chipped binned as not quite stable for Titan parts and I'm also assuming titan yield is quite low (partly why its cost is so high) which means hopefully there will be a decent supply of these bad boys.

In the UK single GPU flagship cards have always been in the £450 range at launch, if the 780 is around that I can see myself getting one, it depends mostly on supply, if it's low then the UK will price gouge as always leading to me probably having one shipped from the US just like I did with my Ultrabook, seriously fuck the UK market.

I'm not sure how I feel about 3Gb vRAM, I think maybe 4Gb would have been more appropriate for this card lasting a good few years at max settings, mostly depends on what vRAM limitations we have in the new consoles as to how this will fare.

Actually, i'm going to differ with you in regards to the VRAM comment, I think 3GB is perfect. Let me explain! This gives the consumer an actual choice: if you're a single screen there is a strong possibility that a higher amount of VRAM will go to waste - I actually have not ever had issues with any games with 2GB at 2560x1600.

But - if you want more VRAM you get that option as well. You can get a 6GB card for slightly less than the Titan which is perfect for multi monitor surround. Having more consumer choices is a win-win for everyone. So my prediction is around 600$ for a 3GB card, and if you want 6GB - you can get that as well, you have that choice. I believe the 770 will have 2/4GB variants, and the 780 will also have 3/6GB variants.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

1/24th DP should drive the price back down to sanity.

Edit: Has there been any real information on yield issues for either side? Why are we assuming anyone is having yield issues? Nvidia was ahead of schedule on K20X. Where is the proof that shows they're having issues making working chips off each wafer?

 

[Rvenger]

Is there anything that makes you believe it won't be 2/4GB just like the GTX 670? I'm certain there will be 4GB versions. That won't be the baseline, though, 2GB will be.

4gb wasn't released with 2gb model.