The GQP is a clear and present danger

[Moonbeam]

I don't know if anybody is paying attention but as far as I am concerned the Republican party has thankfully offed itself. I'm all for self delusion but not to the point where not wearing a mask or getting a shot will send me to an early grave. They have gone so far it's impossible for most people not to see they are insane. It's so much fun to go insane but once you get there things start to change. There's this matter of reality. that nobody can escape.

 

[Moonbeam]

Not really, the dream is to cut the cancerous states off.

The enemy is us. There is nowhere to go, nothing to do, nothing to become. We sleep or we wake up. Have a banana.

 

[ivwshane]

Better to have a conflicting parties than mono-party rule of any sort, especially for the biggest purse in the land.

Too bad we don’t have that.

 

[sandorski]

Progresshevik's utopia. Expand the Supreme Court, add members to Congress, and Gerrymandering by unchecked immigration.

Why the assumption that Immigrants will Vote Democratic?

 

[MrSquished]

Logistically impossible.

The vast majority of people wouldn't have the means to pack up and move to their preferred country, find new employment, etc. It would be a humanitarian and housing crisis.

And that's nothing to say of how to divide infrastructure, law enforcement/military, healthcare providers, etc. How do you maintain basic shipping lines? And probably a hundred other issues we haven't even considered yet.

I think we are stuck with our future GOP overlords.

Nations that disagree still trade. Ever hear of China? Conservatives hate Mexicans, they trade with them too. Many other examples. You trade where the money is.
Not a big problem.

Yes people will be left in the confederacy. We can eventually try to help them relocate. But, it's collateral damage. Better some have to suffer under the fascists than all.

Split the military in half. Dead even. Still mutually assured destruction. That's it.

Cut the cancer of the red States off, let the rest of the body thrive

 

[Jaskalas]

I don't know if anybody is paying attention but as far as I am concerned the Republican party has thankfully offed itself. I'm all for self delusion but not to the point where not wearing a mask or getting a shot will send me to an early grave. They have gone so far it's impossible for most people not to see they are insane. It's so much fun to go insane but once you get there things start to change. There's this matter of reality. that nobody can escape.

Honestly, letting COVID run wild except for those willing to get vaccinated - may just "save" us from Republican voters AND be far gentler in the casualty count for a breakup.

If we wanted fewer overall deaths, including from our own... we might actually encourage them to be anti-vax. Easier to let a virus do it gently than for us to start murdering one another over a divorce.

 

[pcgeek11]

Countries split up, countries are created. Look at the Soviet Union. Yugoslavia. This is not unprecedented.

It may be bloody. But when you have a cancer as bad and as deep as the GQP, the painful treatment must happen.

It would be better for many millions to not live under fascist regressive rule in the new Union, and millions of others that are left in the Confederacy unwillingly, to at least have an option of moving to the Union of sanity that would remain.

Just when and how are you planning on starting this war to split up the United States?

I don't think you have the sack or stomach for it. Just a lot of brave internet talk.

 

[MrSquished]

Just when and how are you planning on starting this war to split up the United States?

I don't think you have the sack or stomach for it. Just a lot of brave internet talk.

I don't think we need to start a war. We can draft up legislation, negotiate, set terms. Negotiate being a key word We'll see if the piece of shit GQP will hold true to their word of having real independent states like Texas secede. We are just helping them out. Why not agree?

Also, if it came to it, I'd gladly arm myself, train myself, and shoot racist fascist scum no problem. I think life would have a higher purpose if that's what it came down to.

The world is often an ugly place. I am at peace with contributing to make it a better place. It won't be pretty or easy, it will be terribly hard and horrific, but ultimately a good cause.

But really, why would the red States fight the shit hole blue states leaving with their meager stuff? We can reach a fair agreement.

Ultimately removing tens of millions from the grip of the filth and cancer that has become the GQP must be done.

It's like if Germany spilt up instead of letting Hitler take over. Ultimately we are preventing the next fascist state from being as huge as it could be.

 

[MrSquished]

The biggest mistake this nation ever made was trying to keep the south in the union.

They were a dreg then, and they still are now.

Let's right the mistakes of the past.

 

[pcgeek11]

I don't think we need to start a war. We can draft up legislation, negotiate, set terms. Negotiate being a key word We'll see if the piece of shit GQP will hold true to their word of having real independent states like Texas secede. We are just helping them out. Why not agree?

Also, if it came to it, I'd gladly arm myself, train myself, and shoot racist fascist scum no problem. I think life would have a higher purpose if that's what it came down to.

The world is often an ugly place. I am at peace with contributing to make it a better place. It won't be pretty or easy, it will be terribly hard and horrific, but ultimately a good cause.

But really, why would the red States fight the shit hole blue states leaving with their meager stuff? We can reach a fair agreement.

You are the one proclaiming it will be bloody to quote you:

" It may be bloody. But when you have a cancer as bad and as deep as the GQP, the painful treatment must happen."

"Also, if it came to it, I'd gladly arm myself, train myself, and shoot racist fascist scum no problem."

I do however find your rambling posts proclaiming everyone that disagrees with you as scum and cancer... to be quite amusing.

 

[mikeymikec]

aww, look at pcgeek attempting to claim the moral and intellectual high ground while still being a faithful GQP supporter.

 

[NWRMidnight]

There is no real way to split the country because we have to much red/blue intertwined thought all the states.

 

[pcgeek11]

aww, look at pcgeek attempting to claim the moral and intellectual high ground while still being a faithful GQP supporter.

You have no idea what I do or do not support.

I do not support killing my fellow citizens regardless of their beliefs.

Do you?

 

[mikeymikec]

I do not support killing my fellow citizens regardless of their beliefs.

Do you?

If they're trying to overthrow the democratically elected government, I absolutely would support such action against them. It's kinda difficult to value freedom and democracy if you're willing to roll over to anyone willing to take it away.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You have no idea what I do or do not support.

I do not support killing my fellow citizens regardless of their beliefs.

Do you?

https://imgur.com/hL1sN8x

We know what you support, even if you think it's a secret.

 

[soulcougher73]

Why do people get divorced?

10 years down the line.. will they probably want another divorce?

Is that the reason you should always stay in a marriage no matter what even if you're going insane and not even treated as a human being?

Maybe i didnt word my response correctly. What i mean is say we split the country somehow right now. As time goes on and people are born/die etc. people are still going to become conservative, religious, crazy views etc. Eventually people of the future may have the same idea. Split the country. Eventually each country will be super small if you just keep splitting them.

Unless you can force conservatives and liberals to have to move to one of the 2 countries you split into.

 

[MrSquished]

You are the one proclaiming it will be bloody to quote you:

" It may be bloody. But when you have a cancer as bad and as deep as the GQP, the painful treatment must happen."

"Also, if it came to it, I'd gladly arm myself, train myself, and shoot racist fascist scum no problem."

I do however find your rambling posts proclaiming everyone that disagrees with you as scum and cancer... to be quite amusing.

Key word. 'May'.

I can't be naive enough to think war might not happen. However, I never said we should declare war. I said split the cancerous states off.

I clearly said I expect the two new countries to trade with each other, split the military, etc... So I'm hoping for a negotiated spilt. Clearly. So get a clue.

But you asked about fighting a war, and I clearly said it might not be needed, that's not the intention, that's not how it should start, but it definitely may happen, can't be too naive to think it's not a possibility, and it is what it is. I'll be ready.

You suck at processing information.

I hope you end up in the confederacy, where you belong.

 

[nakedfrog]

You have no idea what I do or do not support.

I do not support killing my fellow citizens regardless of their beliefs.

Do you?

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

 

[Amused]

You have no idea what I do or do not support.

I do not support killing my fellow citizens regardless of their beliefs.

Do you?

This from the party that with alarming regularity and cult like chanting says this of their political rivals:
"LOCK EM UP!"
"GITMO!"
"EXECUTIONS!"

And showed up to a peaceful democratic transfer of power with nooses, weapons and physical restraints.

Yeah, no. The GQP has no moral standing with this. Zero.

 

[MrSquished]

I'm not sure what people don't understand. The intent is to negotiate a peaceful split, with a trade agreement, distribution of military resources, border/visa requirements, etc...

The main reason war would happen is because the Confederacy/GQP are just very unreasonable and insane people. If a war starts it would be on them, but of course we'd have to be ready for it.

 

[iRONic]

I did what I could and moved our blue voting asses to KY from CT. I'm NOT doing it again!!

 

[Moonbeam]

You have no idea what I do or do not support.

I do not support killing my fellow citizens regardless of their beliefs.

Do you?

No, but I do believe in self defense when faced with imminent and alternatively unavoidable threat. Even California gun laws allow for that. And I do, of course, unlike some here, believe you to be a person of value and worth dedicated to a high level moral code which I am confident would not allow you to place any deep faith in the moral character of someone like Trump. I agree that most in this thread are just unable to contain the anger that frustration brings when witnessing the events of these last few years, the corruption, the disregard for human values, the attempts to overthrow our democratic system, and even the protection of human life, but when I suggested that the Republican party has offed itself I didn't mean it is killing its members to the point of extinction. I meant it is killing its members to the point it can't maintain the level of credibility even among the most easily manipulated sufficiently to garner enough votes to win future elections, that it has morally fucked itself to death. There isn't going to be any war of succession.

Republicans have humorously reached the point where they are openly threatening retaliation for those who are successfully exposing their moral rot. That only happens when the writing is on the wall in my opinion.

Now maybe I'm being overly confident but I have also sought help to to balance out my emotional state. I am studying for my California FSC test stockpiling ammo just in case the Viet Cong get past Texas invading from Mexico. I don't know if you know but that used to be a big conservative concern. The military industrial complex made a fortune off that one.

"To be or not to be" just keeps presenting itself as The Question that won't go away. Best I can do is to insure you have options if you can.

 

[Indus]

Maybe i didnt word my response correctly. What i mean is say we split the country somehow right now. As time goes on and people are born/die etc. people are still going to become conservative, religious, crazy views etc. Eventually people of the future may have the same idea. Split the country. Eventually each country will be super small if you just keep splitting them.

Unless you can force conservatives and liberals to have to move to one of the 2 countries you split into.

People move houses all the time. Just pack up a uhaul and move. Plenty of trumpanzees moving from California and upstate new york into Texas.

The only difference between us is I took that into account and summarized divorce is probably better.

 

[gothuevos]

I'm not sure what people don't understand. The intent is to negotiate a peaceful split, with a trade agreement, distribution of military resources, border/visa requirements, etc...

The main reason war would happen is because the Confederacy/GQP are just very unreasonable and insane people. If a war starts it would be on them, but of course we'd have to be ready for it.

Another issue to consider is that most likely more than half of military and LEO would lean towards the GOP so it would not be an even split of that manpower.

And what makes you think they would agree to reasonably fair arrangements with respect to anything, be it trade, defense, travel, etc.

 

[MrSquished]

Another issue to consider is that most likely more than half of military and LEO would lean towards the GOP so it would not be an even split of that manpower.

And what makes you think they would agree to reasonably fair arrangements with respect to anything, be it trade, defense, travel, etc.

Things can definitely go south, especially when dealing with a party that has a base of insane shitty people they cater too. Have to be prepared for war, but go to the table in good faith, just aware you are dealing with bad actors.