Word. I probably ate 10,000 calories a day in my 20s, and I was built just like Zemmer. Then I hit 30 and *boom* overnight I became the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man. Now I have to work out like crazy to keep looking decent.
Regarding the topic - eat what you like, but lose the soda. That stuff is like pure liquid fat. Doesn't quench your thirst, has a huge amount of calories but doesn't satisfy hunger, terrible for your teeth.
Studies say a handful of peanuts a day is actually good for the heart now. Planters is using it as a small ad on their peanuts.
Rip,
You have lost it. Personally I LIKE donuts. They are OH so yummy. When I eat them I think oh they are so good for me....
Get a grip. Anyone who eats, ice cream, donuts, or cookies know they aren't "good" for you. However, if you aren't a pig and eat things in moderation then you are fine.
A donut a week isn't going to HURT you if you otherwise live a healthy lifestyle(proper calorie intake and exercise).
I prefer to enjoy the things in life. I like donuts so I am going to eat them when I see fit. It isn't going to hurt me because I maintain a healty diet and exercise program in my life.
You have lost it. Personally I LIKE donuts. They are OH so yummy. When I eat them I think oh they are so good for me....
Get a grip. Anyone who eats, ice cream, donuts, or cookies know they aren't "good" for you. However, if you aren't a pig and eat things in moderation then you are fine.
A donut a week isn't going to HURT you if you otherwise live a healthy lifestyle(proper calorie intake and exercise).
I prefer to enjoy the things in life. I like donuts so I am going to eat them when I see fit. It isn't going to hurt me because I maintain a healty diet and exercise program in my life.
? You want the good minerals. You do not want chlorine, floride, lead, cadmium, arsenic, organic pollutants, etc. Distilled water removes it all. But reverse osmosis, and I think ozonation and dionization remove most of the bad and leave more of the good than distillation. Also UV light can kill bacteria.
And I'm have no idea if this guy is a quack or not, but for the people saying eating toxic waste is worse than these 5, he did say 'foods', and didnt say the 5 worst things known to man that you could swallow.
The FDA and drug companies are holding us back. From what I understand, there are companies that have sold cancer cures that have been proven to work, but the FDA shuts them down if they're in the US. In fact, I know someone that used one of them on himself, one of his animals, and knows other people that have, all with success.
Nuts and Avocado. There are good and bad fats/chlorestol ya know. Nuts have no cholesterol, are a great source of nutrients and usually high in the good kind of fat (monounsaturated), which actually lowers bad cholesterol (LDL).
Surely you've know people spend a lot of money to consume Omega 3 fatty acids?
Oh, and I also believe vaccinations are harmful, flouride is bad, and aspartame is bad.
Amused
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Originally posted by: Slickone
? You want the good minerals. You do not want chlorine, floride, lead, cadmium, arsenic, organic pollutants, etc. Distilled water removes it all. But reverse osmosis, and I think ozonation and dionization remove most of the bad and leave more of the good than distillation. Also UV light can kill bacteria.
And I'm have no idea if this guy is a quack or not, but for the people saying eating toxic waste is worse than these 5, he did say 'foods', and didnt say the 5 worst things known to man that you could swallow.
The FDA and drug companies are holding us back. From what I understand, there are companies that have sold cancer cures that have been proven to work, but the FDA shuts them down if they're in the US. In fact, I know someone that used one of them on himself, one of his animals, and knows other people that have, all with success.
Oh, and I also believe vaccinations are harmful, flouride is bad, and aspartame is bad.
Nice conspiracy theories and loads of BS. Too bad you do not have a shred of evidence to support a single one.
dabuddha
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Slickone
? You want the good minerals. You do not want chlorine, floride, lead, cadmium, arsenic, organic pollutants, etc. Distilled water removes it all. But reverse osmosis, and I think ozonation and dionization remove most of the bad and leave more of the good than distillation. Also UV light can kill bacteria.
And I'm have no idea if this guy is a quack or not, but for the people saying eating toxic waste is worse than these 5, he did say 'foods', and didnt say the 5 worst things known to man that you could swallow.
The FDA and drug companies are holding us back. From what I understand, there are companies that have sold cancer cures that have been proven to work, but the FDA shuts them down if they're in the US. In fact, I know someone that used one of them on himself, one of his animals, and knows other people that have, all with success.
Oh, and I also believe vaccinations are harmful, flouride is bad, and aspartame is bad.
Nice conspiracy theories and loads of BS. Too bad you do not have a shred of evidence to support a single one.
I'll take cane sugar over artificial sweeteners any day. But the actual problem is that because people think it's not harmful, they will take four packets and drop it into every cup of coffee they drink - and THAT is ultimately what will take its toll in the long run, far too much of one thing.
I like how people keeping saying, "In moderation, those bad foods won't harm you at all". What? there's a 'magical' amount that once you pass it goes from 'harmless' to 'very harmful'? Great logic there!
Those foods ARE harmful for you EVERYTIME you eat them. However, you won't see the effects immediately if you eat them in moderation (you won't get fat, diseased, etc). The effects will catch up later in life, though.
Those foods ARE harmful for you EVERYTIME you eat them. However, you won't see the effects immediately if you eat them in moderation (you won't get fat, diseased, etc). The effects will catch up later in life, though.
All of those things are horrible for you. Personally, I don't eat any foods containg those items.
Amused, you seem take everything the traditional medical community says as gospel. That's fine. So did until I wised up and did my own research.
Here's some interesting info about the AHA:
23. The AHA is a 1/2billion$/year organization with 3.8 million volunteers. Unfortunately, most of its prevention approach is tainted by the massive soft-money from interest groups [... treating to "targets", reaching number "goals" in lab reports]. The focus is prevention by lowering fat and cholesterol "as part of a balanced eating plan". Its website recommends in general not to take supplements while among the foods suggested are water bagels, molasses cookies, angel cake and [check for yourself] ... frankfurter buns. These are all refined-starch, finely ground flour-based foods, that are high-glycemic, that trigger insulin and that therefore promote obesity and type 2 diabetes which eventually leads to heart disease and stroke.
There are 3 AHA "heart-checks" on Lipton's "Promise Ultra Fat Free Nonfat Margarine" which has "0% fat", zero protein, zero etc. Some Promise, 2 of the 50 nutrients you need: water and supplemented vitamin A. Telling you not to supplement, they endorse an imitation margarine for its supplemented vitamin A. And how about "Smart Beat Fat Free American Flavor Non-Dairy Slices"? Cheers! Also endorsed is the Breakfast Candy listed below, because it contains a piece of a multi-vitamin. Such "nutrient-fortified and enriched starches" [sic] are in evident conflict with the CHD-Taskforce and AHA Dietary Guidelines: "...individuals should choose foods and beverages low in sugars, particularly added sugars.
AHA endorsements are sold for a yearly fee and include Frosted Flakes (42% sugar and only 1 g fiber), Cocoa Krispies ("chocolatey sweetened rice cereal"), Cookie Crisp (sugar and hydrogenated oils) and Cocoa Puffs (1st ingredient sugar: 47% + 0.2 g fiber, 1/125th of your daily requirement --I managed to grow mold on it so it does support life). Then, there's scary Count Chocula, synthesized from de-germed corn meal (corn starch), sugar and marshmallow bits, a hydrogenated Frankenfood through marriage to the equally spooky Frankenberry (95% carbs and 0.2 g fiber -not certified). No joke, but no yolk! No AHA scientists could possibly suggest that Count Chocula or spreads like Promise "fight heart disease and stroke".
If a food has as much as 1/11th of an egg [a whole food with all the nutrients to make a new chicken and no evidence of harm], it won't be endorsed but sawdust with over 10% of 1 of only 6 required nutrients (fiber) qualifies. Endorsements based on low saturated fat and cholesterol and the presence of only one added nutrient is irresponsible. America's most reliable source of heart-health information [according to itself] must change its orientation if it doesn't want to remain part of the core problem. Using its dedicated volunteers and doctors and without corporate money, simple science based advise should be given, endorsing all healthy foods, even without industrial sponsors. One good step: AHA's new position on omega-3 oils (flax, canola, fish-oil). If only the AHA could ban the use of the word cholesterol -that horse has been dead for about 30 years, and it was finally buried by last year's trials that found no fewer deaths from cholesterol lowering. Cholesterol-thinking is poisoning heart associations world-wide; it's time to face these facts, and tell the people.
Donations: Until the AHA gets nutrient-wise and stops endorsing stuff like Cocoa Puffs and puts your donation supported 5 journals free on the Internet [access to Circulation alone is $15/day or $236/yr while for example the great member-financed BMJ is free], Americans and their estates might consider donating instead to the nutrition dedicated Linus Pauling Institute with their free news-letter. Why donate to the AHA, or any similar group, for corporate soft-money tainted drug or or food advice that may well have helped cause illness in the first place? At least the Pauling people are moving forward with practical research and relevant advice. [The AHA gets $90 million per year from estates but spends $100 million on fund-raising alone!]
Link
There's a lot of good info on this site, imo.
Here's some interesting info about the AHA:
23. The AHA is a 1/2billion$/year organization with 3.8 million volunteers. Unfortunately, most of its prevention approach is tainted by the massive soft-money from interest groups [... treating to "targets", reaching number "goals" in lab reports]. The focus is prevention by lowering fat and cholesterol "as part of a balanced eating plan". Its website recommends in general not to take supplements while among the foods suggested are water bagels, molasses cookies, angel cake and [check for yourself] ... frankfurter buns. These are all refined-starch, finely ground flour-based foods, that are high-glycemic, that trigger insulin and that therefore promote obesity and type 2 diabetes which eventually leads to heart disease and stroke.
There are 3 AHA "heart-checks" on Lipton's "Promise Ultra Fat Free Nonfat Margarine" which has "0% fat", zero protein, zero etc. Some Promise, 2 of the 50 nutrients you need: water and supplemented vitamin A. Telling you not to supplement, they endorse an imitation margarine for its supplemented vitamin A. And how about "Smart Beat Fat Free American Flavor Non-Dairy Slices"? Cheers! Also endorsed is the Breakfast Candy listed below, because it contains a piece of a multi-vitamin. Such "nutrient-fortified and enriched starches" [sic] are in evident conflict with the CHD-Taskforce and AHA Dietary Guidelines: "...individuals should choose foods and beverages low in sugars, particularly added sugars.
AHA endorsements are sold for a yearly fee and include Frosted Flakes (42% sugar and only 1 g fiber), Cocoa Krispies ("chocolatey sweetened rice cereal"), Cookie Crisp (sugar and hydrogenated oils) and Cocoa Puffs (1st ingredient sugar: 47% + 0.2 g fiber, 1/125th of your daily requirement --I managed to grow mold on it so it does support life). Then, there's scary Count Chocula, synthesized from de-germed corn meal (corn starch), sugar and marshmallow bits, a hydrogenated Frankenfood through marriage to the equally spooky Frankenberry (95% carbs and 0.2 g fiber -not certified). No joke, but no yolk! No AHA scientists could possibly suggest that Count Chocula or spreads like Promise "fight heart disease and stroke".
If a food has as much as 1/11th of an egg [a whole food with all the nutrients to make a new chicken and no evidence of harm], it won't be endorsed but sawdust with over 10% of 1 of only 6 required nutrients (fiber) qualifies. Endorsements based on low saturated fat and cholesterol and the presence of only one added nutrient is irresponsible. America's most reliable source of heart-health information [according to itself] must change its orientation if it doesn't want to remain part of the core problem. Using its dedicated volunteers and doctors and without corporate money, simple science based advise should be given, endorsing all healthy foods, even without industrial sponsors. One good step: AHA's new position on omega-3 oils (flax, canola, fish-oil). If only the AHA could ban the use of the word cholesterol -that horse has been dead for about 30 years, and it was finally buried by last year's trials that found no fewer deaths from cholesterol lowering. Cholesterol-thinking is poisoning heart associations world-wide; it's time to face these facts, and tell the people.
Donations: Until the AHA gets nutrient-wise and stops endorsing stuff like Cocoa Puffs and puts your donation supported 5 journals free on the Internet [access to Circulation alone is $15/day or $236/yr while for example the great member-financed BMJ is free], Americans and their estates might consider donating instead to the nutrition dedicated Linus Pauling Institute with their free news-letter. Why donate to the AHA, or any similar group, for corporate soft-money tainted drug or or food advice that may well have helped cause illness in the first place? At least the Pauling people are moving forward with practical research and relevant advice. [The AHA gets $90 million per year from estates but spends $100 million on fund-raising alone!]
Link
There's a lot of good info on this site, imo.
You're wrong and you'll pay for it later in your life if you keep eating that crap. Humans can survive literal poisons in small doses, but that doesn't mean they are harmless either.
The main effect most people aren't aware of is internal aging. The more crap you put in your body, the harder it has to work to clean and repair itself. Couple that with less 'good' food to use as resource and it wears the insides down.
Talk to a Dr. (yes, a M.D.) about what happens with aging and Fibrosys. For most people, their organs shrink, their blood vessels harder, and the body gradually builds internal scar tissue. Now, take a look at someone who eats almost exclusively raw fruits and vegetables... getting a lot of enzymes and pure nutrients. His body will have MUCH less fibrosys and a much stronger immune system well into his senior years.
The proof will be in the lives we live. Those that start opening their eyes to the crap the FDA is allowing in our grocery stores will start making changes and will be healthier in 20 years than those that did not.
Time will tell.
Amused
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Rip... :sigh;
Not only was the last quack site you posted based on trying to sell something, but this one is, too.
Rip, you REALLY need to consider the source of your info.
Your paste job talks about "taint." Well, both sites you've posted have the ultimate "taint." They are trying to turn you away from proven science and get you to buy their products, none of which are peer reviewed or independently studied, much less approved by the FDA.
Stop looking at quack sites, Rip. It's obvious you have a non-functioning bullsh!t detector.
Not only was the last quack site you posted based on trying to sell something, but this one is, too.
Rip, you REALLY need to consider the source of your info.
Your paste job talks about "taint." Well, both sites you've posted have the ultimate "taint." They are trying to turn you away from proven science and get you to buy their products, none of which are peer reviewed or independently studied, much less approved by the FDA.
Stop looking at quack sites, Rip. It's obvious you have a non-functioning bullsh!t detector.
DAGTA, I'm glad to see there's at least one other person here who has some sense. I don't feel as lonely.
funboy6942
Lifer
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In the words of Bart Simpson. If you rub it on something and it becomes see through its bad for you
Vic
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It's amazing how popular junk science is today. Every special interest wants to prove that the holy mantle of science is behind them, even when it clearly is not. Global warming, aliens, intelligent design, evolution with abiogenesis included, "rational" atheism, second-hand smoke, aspartame, fatty foods, Atkins, you name it. All bullsh!t.
Concensus is not science. The plural of anecdote is not data.
Concensus is not science. The plural of anecdote is not data.
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