The Five Absolute Worst Foods You Can Eat

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mwtgg

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Quite simply: the closer a food is to it's natural state, the better it is for you. The more it has been processed, the worse it is for you.

Chemicals that are not naturally consumed in large amounts, such as chlorine and flouride in tap water, are not good for you.

Being healthy consists of much more that just 'calorie intake and burning calories'. Nutrients, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, chemicals, charged particles, etc. all play a part in your health. It seems 'common sense' to me that natural foods are going to be better than processed foods. Humans survived for thousands of years off of the foods that grew naturally on this Earth. If time travel were possible, going back 100 years and going into a grocery store would look MUCH different than it does today, and it would be healthier.

Anyway, arguing is pointless. Most people are too closed-minded and mentally influenced from birth in this country (read: brainwashed) to believe anything but the FDA and drug companies. Nevermind that drug companies do the EXACT same thing as Mercola... tell you about a 'problem' and then sell you their drug to 'fix it'.

Oh yeah, natural supplements almost never have any side effects. How many synthetic drugs have zero side effects? Zero.

Do these natural supplements actually work?
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: aplefka
I read the soda article, this guy is a fvcking moron.

Tap Water: I recommend that everyone avoid drinking tap water because it can carry any number of chemicals including chlorine, trihalomethanes, lead, cadmium, and various organic pollutants. Tap water is the main ingredient in bottled soft drinks.

The only water that DOESN'T have minerals and whatnot in it is DISTILLED water, and nobody wants to drink that.


Correct, Distilled water can be bad for you because it can REMOVE minerals and nutrients from your body.

And then the moron condtridicts himself in the distilled water article...
The most toxic commercial beverages that people consume (i.e. cola beverages and other soft drinks) are made from distilled water.

HAHAHA Oh man... I love people sometimes.
 

SVT Cobra

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that pizza thing is BS!! i am sorta a health nut, and i lift regularily and run....and i eat pizza sometimes 2-3 times a week...but it is my own pizza that i make with the dough suace and cheese...overall its around 15g fat, 100 carbs, 50-60 g protein, and around 800 calories....the perfect meal for after some heavy lifting.....i dont use any grease of course...thats what teflon is for....

i usually take in about 3000-5000 calories currently as my training, and all of it is healthy....
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
that pizza thing is BS!! i am sorta a health nut, and i lift regularily and run....and i eat pizza sometimes 2-3 times a week...but it is my own pizza that i make with the dough suace and cheese...overall its around 15g fat, 100 carbs, 50-60 g protein, and around 800 calories....the perfect meal for after some heavy lifting.....i dont use any grease of course...thats what teflon is for....

i usually take in about 3000-5000 calories currently as my training, and all of it is healthy....

TEFLON IS TEH BAAAAD!1!1!!!1
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Quite simply: the closer a food is to it's natural state, the better it is for you. The more it has been processed, the worse it is for you.

Chemicals that are not naturally consumed in large amounts, such as chlorine and flouride in tap water, are not good for you.

Being healthy consists of much more that just 'calorie intake and burning calories'. Nutrients, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, chemicals, charged particles, etc. all play a part in your health. It seems 'common sense' to me that natural foods are going to be better than processed foods. Humans survived for thousands of years off of the foods that grew naturally on this Earth. If time travel were possible, going back 100 years and going into a grocery store would look MUCH different than it does today, and it would be healthier.

Anyway, arguing is pointless. Most people are too closed-minded and mentally influenced from birth in this country (read: brainwashed) to believe anything but the FDA and drug companies. Nevermind that drug companies do the EXACT same thing as Mercola... tell you about a 'problem' and then sell you their drug to 'fix it'.

Oh yeah, natural supplements almost never have any side effects. How many synthetic drugs have zero side effects? Zero.

Do these natural supplements actually work?
Yes. All they are is concentrated forms of nutrients, vitamins, or minerals in a natural (non-synthetic) form. So, really all you are doing is making up for the parts that are lacking in your diet so that your body gets what it needs to be healthy. That's why that are called supplements. If my diet were perfectly healthy, I wouldn't use the supplements as I would get everything I need from my food. However, I don't eat perfectly.
 

Lounatik

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Quite simply: the closer a food is to it's natural state, the better it is for you. The more it has been processed, the worse it is for you.

Chemicals that are not naturally consumed in large amounts, such as chlorine and flouride in tap water, are not good for you.

Being healthy consists of much more that just 'calorie intake and burning calories'. Nutrients, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, chemicals, charged particles, etc. all play a part in your health. It seems 'common sense' to me that natural foods are going to be better than processed foods. Humans survived for thousands of years off of the foods that grew naturally on this Earth. If time travel were possible, going back 100 years and going into a grocery store would look MUCH different than it does today, and it would be healthier.

Anyway, arguing is pointless. Most people are too closed-minded and mentally influenced from birth in this country (read: brainwashed) to believe anything but the FDA and drug companies. Nevermind that drug companies do the EXACT same thing as Mercola... tell you about a 'problem' and then sell you their drug to 'fix it'.

Oh yeah, natural supplements almost never have any side effects. How many synthetic drugs have zero side effects? Zero.


Not to be a smartass or anything, but how come our life expectancies are higher than they have ever been if our diets are so horrific? I remember reading that people in the 1800's rarely lived past their 50's or so,eating food they grew naturally. Weren't too many preservatives back then.



Peace


Lounatik

 

QuitBanningMe

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Originally posted by: Lounatik
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Quite simply: the closer a food is to it's natural state, the better it is for you. The more it has been processed, the worse it is for you.

Chemicals that are not naturally consumed in large amounts, such as chlorine and flouride in tap water, are not good for you.

Being healthy consists of much more that just 'calorie intake and burning calories'. Nutrients, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, chemicals, charged particles, etc. all play a part in your health. It seems 'common sense' to me that natural foods are going to be better than processed foods. Humans survived for thousands of years off of the foods that grew naturally on this Earth. If time travel were possible, going back 100 years and going into a grocery store would look MUCH different than it does today, and it would be healthier.

Anyway, arguing is pointless. Most people are too closed-minded and mentally influenced from birth in this country (read: brainwashed) to believe anything but the FDA and drug companies. Nevermind that drug companies do the EXACT same thing as Mercola... tell you about a 'problem' and then sell you their drug to 'fix it'.

Oh yeah, natural supplements almost never have any side effects. How many synthetic drugs have zero side effects? Zero.


Not to be a smartass or anything, but how come our life expectancies are higher than they have ever been if our diets are so horrific? I remember reading that people in the 1800's rarely lived past their 50's or so,eating food they grew naturally. Weren't too many preservatives back then.



Peace


Lounatik

Actually life expectancies are falling due to our diets and lack of exercise.

The diet was not the only factor in increasing life expectancy.




 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: Lounatik
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Quite simply: the closer a food is to it's natural state, the better it is for you. The more it has been processed, the worse it is for you.

Chemicals that are not naturally consumed in large amounts, such as chlorine and flouride in tap water, are not good for you.

Being healthy consists of much more that just 'calorie intake and burning calories'. Nutrients, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, chemicals, charged particles, etc. all play a part in your health. It seems 'common sense' to me that natural foods are going to be better than processed foods. Humans survived for thousands of years off of the foods that grew naturally on this Earth. If time travel were possible, going back 100 years and going into a grocery store would look MUCH different than it does today, and it would be healthier.

Anyway, arguing is pointless. Most people are too closed-minded and mentally influenced from birth in this country (read: brainwashed) to believe anything but the FDA and drug companies. Nevermind that drug companies do the EXACT same thing as Mercola... tell you about a 'problem' and then sell you their drug to 'fix it'.

Oh yeah, natural supplements almost never have any side effects. How many synthetic drugs have zero side effects? Zero.


Not to be a smartass or anything, but how come our life expectancies are higher than they have ever been if our diets are so horrific? I remember reading that people in the 1800's rarely lived past their 50's or so,eating food they grew naturally. Weren't too many preservatives back then.



Peace


Lounatik

Diseases and having less access to varied foods played a big role in shorter lifespans. I'm not an extremist that believe medical science 'is horrible'. I do believe that many/most of our problems (cancer, MS, heart disease, and other similar diseases) can be prevented through proper nutrition and exercise.

My biggest complaints are that our foods are getting more and more processed and sythesized and that people feel that turning to drugs is the answer for all of their problems. Those drugs can usually help people, but they should be a last resort. Similarly, surgery should be an absolute last resort. It can help people but it's such a drastic thing to do to your body, with life-long effects, that it should be tried last when looking to fix a problem.

The first, and usually best, way to fix most problems is to change your diet and lifestyle. Most people have the mentality (and that's how our culture is) that foods are only 'bad' if they cause you to gain fat weight. That point of view is dangerous as it ignores all the other harmful effects of bad food and nutrition.

I don't expect to convince anyone here. Like so many things in life, people have to be ready to try a new point of view. I had about half a dozen people trying to get me to open up my mind and look into holistic medicine before I ever tried it. Now, I wish I had tried it sooner.

With health and natural foods, I know one couple that follows almost exactly the same guidelines that Mercola suggests (I don't know if they know of Mercola, they've never mentioned his name). They are, without a doubt, the healthiest and best looking 34 year olds I know. They are fit, have amazing sex drives, and almost never get sick in any way. They're also very happy people.

 

mwtgg

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Quite simply: the closer a food is to it's natural state, the better it is for you. The more it has been processed, the worse it is for you.

Chemicals that are not naturally consumed in large amounts, such as chlorine and flouride in tap water, are not good for you.

Being healthy consists of much more that just 'calorie intake and burning calories'. Nutrients, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, chemicals, charged particles, etc. all play a part in your health. It seems 'common sense' to me that natural foods are going to be better than processed foods. Humans survived for thousands of years off of the foods that grew naturally on this Earth. If time travel were possible, going back 100 years and going into a grocery store would look MUCH different than it does today, and it would be healthier.

Anyway, arguing is pointless. Most people are too closed-minded and mentally influenced from birth in this country (read: brainwashed) to believe anything but the FDA and drug companies. Nevermind that drug companies do the EXACT same thing as Mercola... tell you about a 'problem' and then sell you their drug to 'fix it'.

Oh yeah, natural supplements almost never have any side effects. How many synthetic drugs have zero side effects? Zero.

Do these natural supplements actually work?
Yes. All they are is concentrated forms of nutrients, vitamins, or minerals in a natural (non-synthetic) form. So, really all you are doing is making up for the parts that are lacking in your diet so that your body gets what it needs to be healthy. That's why that are called supplements. If my diet were perfectly healthy, I wouldn't use the supplements as I would get everything I need from my food. However, I don't eat perfectly.

So umm, you're having intense pain, what do you take?
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: mwtggSo umm, you're having intense pain, what do you take?
If you read my post I made while you were probably typing this one, you'll see that I'm not against drugs completely, simply I think they should be a last resort.

That said, I haven't taken a pain medication in years. I haven't felt much pain since I started improving my diet and such. In fact, I used to keep a bottle of ibuprofen on hand when working and take it at least once a week. I think I've taken ibuprofen once in the last year. I almost never get headaches anymore, despite working on a laptop an avg of 12 hours a day (which is not healthy but necessary to keep a business running).

I still have a bottle of Vicodin and Flexirol in my cabinet from when I could barely walk due to my back problems. I keep them 'in case' I ever get that bad again. However, since I've been eating better and seeing a chiropractor, my back has improved better than my MD claimed was possible without surgery. I very rarely get more than a minor ache in my back now, and it seems to be improving still.



 

psteng19

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
I'll stand alone, again, and say that I agree with Mercola. I've been reading into his, and others', ideas and research for about a year now. I decided to put their suggestions to the test. My immune system is healthier than it's been in about five years. My blood pressure is back down to 123/79 (tested yesterday) without drugs. My back has been healing far more than any M.D. claimed possible. And, I simply feel way better and have much more energy.

But, go ahead and keep believing the FDA (which takes bribes) and the drug companies (that make bribes) and we'll see which one of us lives a healthier life.

You're not alone. I agree with his "philosophy."

Call me a conspiracy theorist but I'm sure there are many cures out there for diseases that the FDA/pharmaceuticals are covering up so that they can continue to sell their drugs and make money.

The key is to living a happy, healthy life is to eat right and exercise daily.
 

eigen

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Funny. My diet consists almost exclusively of the things on his list. I have low BP, good blood sugar, and have to drink a quart of whole milk each day to prevent my weight from dropping to around 130 pounds. As it stands now, I'm 6'0" and 141 pounds.

ZV

We are the lucky ones sir.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Riprorin
It's pretty clear from reading the replies here why our health care costs are out of control.

Such ignorance.
No, the health care costs are out of control because morons keep suing physicians who make good-faith efforts.

ZV
And how much of the 1.6 TRILLION we spend on health care annually do you think that represents?
Care to show how that number was calculated? Or was it just pulled from some unmentionable area of your anatomy?

Malpractice insurance for physicians and the continuing insistance of people to prolong life well past design parameters are causing most of the uptick. Also, the huge liabilities of drug companies. What people fail to realise is that for ever successful "overpriced" drug that comes onto the market there are _hundreds_ of failed drugs that never made it past testing and whose billions (individually) of dollars in research costs have to be recouped somehow. Each successful drug supports the development of hundreds of other non-successful drugs.

ZV

The number comes from the Office of Technology Assessment, fyi.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Quite simply: the closer a food is to it's natural state, the better it is for you. The more it has been processed, the worse it is for you.

Chemicals that are not naturally consumed in large amounts, such as chlorine and flouride in tap water, are not good for you.

Being healthy consists of much more that just 'calorie intake and burning calories'. Nutrients, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, chemicals, charged particles, etc. all play a part in your health. It seems 'common sense' to me that natural foods are going to be better than processed foods. Humans survived for thousands of years off of the foods that grew naturally on this Earth. If time travel were possible, going back 100 years and going into a grocery store would look MUCH different than it does today, and it would be healthier.

Anyway, arguing is pointless. Most people are too closed-minded and mentally influenced from birth in this country (read: brainwashed) to believe anything but the FDA and drug companies. Nevermind that drug companies do the EXACT same thing as Mercola... tell you about a 'problem' and then sell you their drug to 'fix it'.

Oh yeah, natural supplements almost never have any side effects. How many synthetic drugs have zero side effects? Zero.

But drug companies can't patent vitamins and herbs, so they can't be as good as pharmaceuticals.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Lounatik
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Quite simply: the closer a food is to it's natural state, the better it is for you. The more it has been processed, the worse it is for you.

Chemicals that are not naturally consumed in large amounts, such as chlorine and flouride in tap water, are not good for you.

Being healthy consists of much more that just 'calorie intake and burning calories'. Nutrients, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, chemicals, charged particles, etc. all play a part in your health. It seems 'common sense' to me that natural foods are going to be better than processed foods. Humans survived for thousands of years off of the foods that grew naturally on this Earth. If time travel were possible, going back 100 years and going into a grocery store would look MUCH different than it does today, and it would be healthier.

Anyway, arguing is pointless. Most people are too closed-minded and mentally influenced from birth in this country (read: brainwashed) to believe anything but the FDA and drug companies. Nevermind that drug companies do the EXACT same thing as Mercola... tell you about a 'problem' and then sell you their drug to 'fix it'.

Oh yeah, natural supplements almost never have any side effects. How many synthetic drugs have zero side effects? Zero.


Not to be a smartass or anything, but how come our life expectancies are higher than they have ever been if our diets are so horrific? I remember reading that people in the 1800's rarely lived past their 50's or so,eating food they grew naturally. Weren't too many preservatives back then.



Peace


Lounatik

The quality of life is poor for many people.

My goal is to live well.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
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BAH ... those things are all tasty.

I though the "worst" foods, would be a list of things that taste horrible or are disgusting that some people actually eat.


That link sucks. I don't give a crap if it's unhealthy.
 

James3shin

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BAH! I agree about the donuts thing and the rest to an extent, but are Fries really as bad as he's making them out to be?!?! I love French Fries :(
 

rezinn

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"I am fond of telling patients that one French fry is worse for your health than one cigarette, so you may want to consider this before you order your next ?Biggie? order."

I normally don't trust people who tell you that your diet is bad while trying to sell you their overpriced supplements at the same time.
 

Nebben

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I've been reading Mercola's website for a few months now and I'm still trying to determine my take on his advice, but I'm seriously leaning towards agreement.

I've made some changes in my diet (some based on his articles, most based on outside information) and I feel better and have more energy than I used to. In the last several years I've been progressively changing to a more raw, unprocessed diet with more vegetables and fruits and unprocessed meats and it's made an unbelieveable difference.

Although it is somewhat frustrating to think about the fact that we'll likely never know for sure what's good and what's bad (well, in our lifetimes, anyway), and it's really hard to find conclusive evidence for either side of the argument, it should be obvious that artificially made foods that don't seem to have any sort of nutritional value and share more similarities to plastics than food are PROBABLY not going to promote health.

And to the guys bragging about how they can eat boxes of doughnuts and not get fat... congratulations, you have completely missed the point. Metabolism is a huge factor in weight gain, and even though you may not see the most obvious effect of eating utter crap, it's still likely messing up your body, and many of those 'ultra-metabolic-rate' types will see a decrease in metabolism and an increase in weight as they reach middle adulthood. I used to be one, too.. :)
 

myusername

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I have just finished off 6 Krispy Kreme Doughnuts (1200 Cal, 72g fat) and a quart of whole milk (600 Cal, 32g fat). I wouldn't want to be my toilet tomorrow, but man, it really hit the spot :D
 

Nebben

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Originally posted by: myusername
I have just finished off 6 Krispy Kreme Doughnuts (1200 Cal, 72g fat) and a quart of whole milk (600 Cal, 32g fat). I wouldn't want to be my toilet tomorrow, but man, it really hit the spot :D

Congratulations?