The first trans model for Sports Illustrated is butt ugly by Sports Illustrated standards.

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Commodus

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Most of us are entirely open to trans people doing as they please in life. Just like were fine with gays/lesbians marrying.

But if someone is a straight person that is attracted to women, don't be surprised if folks are annoyed that they ruin their magazine because it doesn't have what they expected.

Personally, I don't give a shit. I don't read boring ad-filled magazines anyhow - and seeing women in lingerie/swimsuits is everywhere these days.


But the point being is - when you search your pornhub for straight porn (or lesbian, or bi, or bdsm - or whatever it is you prefer), and out pops a trans dick mid-way through.... that isn't what you ordered lol. Same if it started doing scat-porn in the middle of it. That's not what you wanted. It's not like were saying trans people aren't entitled to their pornhub videos - because I'm sure there are fucktons that find that attractive - and thats absolutely fine.

Well, "ruin" is a relative term. I'm not attracted to trans women, but I can appreciate when they're good-looking -- that would be a healthy attitude to take here, I think. I also like that SI is reminding us that beauty isn't all about appealing to the cisgender (or non-pansexual) crowd.
 
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Well, "ruin" is a relative term. I'm not attracted to trans women, but I can appreciate when they're good-looking -- that would be a healthy attitude to take here, I think. I also like that SI is reminding us that beauty isn't all about appealing to the cisgender (or non-pansexual) crowd.

Right, but I'm saying it's the equivalent of advertising one thing but upon buying it being something else.

Again, just imagine if you search a porn-hub video for what you're attracted to and mid-way through it just starts doing some scat-porn (urban dictionary it if you don't know what I'm referring to).

It's in the same boat - I'm not attracted to that shit (har har unintended pun), but it's not something that anyone would want to run into either. Nor am I trying to "silence" it for anyone where it does tickle their fancy.
 

snoopy7548

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Doesn't matter to me if they're trans or not. You've gotta differentiate between pre- and post-op.

Ask yourself this... Would you rather be with a woman who has a penis, or a man who has a vagina? There's your answer.
 

pauldun170

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Thanks, that's awesome. I've had trans coworkers and have trans friends, so it means a lot to me.
Dude is just one of those words that is instinctual for me and my circles. Even the women in my life have called other women dude.
 

Sunburn74

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Honestly who cares about models in this day and age? Can't the same job (showing off clothes) be done with a mannequin? Just seems like another over fussed about overpaid industry to me.

On a separate note, yes she is an attractive transgender woman and it probably took a lot of work and self sacrifice to achieve that. Lots of time in the gym, starving oneself,etc etc. It just seems to me that many people are surprised that hey if people sacrifice and really want something they can achieve incredible results.
 

WelshBloke

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How many beers until a person can no longer consent?
Interesting that you would use lack of consent as platform.

The narrative you used would be parallel to telling a Gay male to just get drunk so their orientation can be violated by hooking them up with a woman.
I hope you can see just how wrong, and criminal, that line of thought is.
I spot someone deliberately missing the point to exercise their outrage glands!

He's quite clearly pointing out that Shorty (and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way to him) would be in danger of drowning in his own saliva if the person in that photo came on to him in a bar!
 

sandorski

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Since we all are banging Super Models 24/7/365(+1(x20))/80, this is indeed a disturbing trend.....they could all be TS and it would make no real difference to anyone fapping to a 2D image.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Well, "ruin" is a relative term. I'm not attracted to trans women, but I can appreciate when they're good-looking -- that would be a healthy attitude to take here, I think. I also like that SI is reminding us that beauty isn't all about appealing to the cisgender (or non-pansexual) crowd.
True, but the swimsuit cover appeals to a male cisgender heterosexual centric definition of beauty while simultaneously setting that definition of beauty as a standard for trans acceptance. We already pressure enough young women to achieve that standard of beauty, hence the appeal of social media campaigns of female celebrities posting pictures of themselves without hair, makeup and camera and post production tricks.
 
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True, but the swimsuit cover appeals to a male cisgender heterosexual centric definition of beauty while simultaneously setting that definition of beauty as a standard for trans acceptance. We already pressure enough young women to achieve that standard of beauty, hence the appeal of social media campaigns of female celebrities posting pictures of themselves without hair, makeup and camera and post production tricks.
From now on I'm gonna hire you to make all my arguments for me.
 

Greenman

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Have any of you ran out and picked up a copy of sports illustrated because of the cover model? Personally, I've never cracked one open, and won't be spending the couple bucks necessary to see this one.
 

ondma

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Have any of you ran out and picked up a copy of sports illustrated because of the cover model? Personally, I've never cracked one open, and won't be spending the couple bucks necessary to see this one.
Once upon a time, sure. Lot more than a couple of bucks too.
Now though, I dont know why one would bother. You can see past issues on line or just about any other kind of nudity you would want.
 

Bitek

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How much anger is caused by dudes popping boners to a hot woman who they find out was a guy?

Most of it IMO.

Doesn't matter anyway because no one is getting close enough to have to question your sexuality.

Now go back to your incest pron on PHub like the manly man you are.
 
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How much anger is caused by dudes popping boners to a hot woman who they find out was a guy?

Most of it IMO.

Doesn't matter anyway because no one is getting close enough to have to question your sexuality.

Now go back to your incest pron on PHub like the manly man you are.

Sorry she simply isn’t SI Swimsuit edition quality. She is pretty but not SI Swimsuit edition pretty.
Hard to find good French porn on those porn sites.
 

himkhan

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I have seen many SI models or what they call Supermodels who are far less attractive than she is. Would never know if they hadn't said so. I have met and spoke with hundreds of ladyboys while in Thailand who on a looks alone would put those supermodels and her to shame. Those pesky penises always get in the way tho
 

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All I have to say is The New York Times sucks because they intentionally used an awkward photo of this beautiful person in their article. I've shot hundreds if not thousands of portraits and understand that not every shot of even a beautiful model will be flattering, but those aren't the ones you print. The editor who selected this photo to run with the story is a strait up asshole.
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The Times did the same thing when they did a story on her when she was on the cover of Vogue. The photo isn't as bad as the first one, but it's far from flattering.

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Maxima1

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All I have to say is The New York Times sucks because they intentionally used an awkward photo of this beautiful person in their article. I've shot hundreds if not thousands of portraits and understand that not every shot of even a beautiful model will be flattering, but those aren't the ones you print. The editor who selected this photo to run with the story is a strait up asshole.

Great photos can be misleading as well.

So what is wrong with them? I can tell there are masculine features, and it makes me want to hurl. XD You can't always quite put your finger on it, but she can't hide it like some others can.

How much anger is caused by dudes popping boners to a hot woman who they find out was a guy?

Most of it IMO.

Haha, I pulled that on conservatives with a comparison and then revealed the true sex after a few replied. Hilarity ensued.
 

BUTCH1

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Lol. 13 year old boys masturbating to magazines. You're fucking hilarious.

They don't even know what magazines are. They definetly know what pornhub is.
Yea, I'm jealous, these kids have it made, all we had were some dusty old Playboy magazines stashed away, these kids get 4K streams of unimaginable stuff.