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raildogg

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It's simply a matter of fact that western liberalism stemming from the intellectual enlightenment rather differs from low edu/iq conservatism, even if you're highly motivated never to understand what that means.
So you and your fellow tribesmen and tribesmen are superior to the other tribesmen and tribeswomen?

If so, then why continue to argue and fight with them? Your tribe has already won, hasn't it?
 

buckshot24

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Pointing out that you literally lack the capacity to use reasoning is a pretty strong argument.
Asserting it without evidence is a terrible argument. But you wouldn't understand that since you are mentally handicapped.(Hey, if it works for you why can't it work for me?)
 

snarfbot

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It's not the liberals' fault that your sort can't understand what objective means either, or anything else for that matter including this thread. That's just what conservatism thrives to be.

this is getting a little out of hand here, there is nothing constructive here, just an insult really.

Logical fallacies apply to discussions between rational participants, not really the sort of thing your sort are ever party to.

moving the goal posts, more ad hominem.
 

agent00f

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So you and your fellow tribesmen and tribesmen are superior to the other tribesmen and tribeswomen?

If so, then why continue to argue and fight with them? Your tribe has already won, hasn't it?

Yes, the better people are better. Regrettably we live in a world where better people can still lose elections & such, which is why better people try to improve upon it.
 

alien42

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So you and your fellow tribesmen and tribesmen are superior to the other tribesmen and tribeswomen?

If so, then why continue to argue and fight with them? Your tribe has already won, hasn't it?

that argument is quite hollow, being superior at any level in nature does not mean being the most populous. votes are not based on superiority but populous.
 

soundforbjt

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so you attribute everything that is good in the world to liberals and everything bad to conservatives, yes very objective of you. it seems that you are also projecting your insecurities onto others online. regardless neither one is a strong argument in context to the topic at hand.
No, conservatives from time to time actually proposed what is now considered liberal ideas to the current republicans. They actually cared about all of the country not just their base and rich donors. Those no longer exist or are too weak to speak up for fear of being voted out in the next primary.
 

Younigue

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ad hominem? looool strong argument! next.

Well, you think you're a phenomenal troll.

Feeling something is a victory does not a victory make. Your debating methods are on par with the Kumquat Twat's ability. Astounding how a bunch of 4 year olds think they have anything of value to add to the governing of society. Ah yeah, the playground bully is leading you all over a cliff. But I get it (?)... His music is so melodic and his cheese so Orange! As a progressive I'd hate to see the plague obliterated in such a fashion but y'all seem so willing and eager.

Gave you a chance to respond before clicking ignore but I will send this and be done.
 

snarfbot

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these guys are just derailing the conversation from the topic to personal attacks, in order to get the thread locked.
 

raildogg

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that argument is quite hollow, being superior at any level in nature does not mean being the most populous. votes are not based on superiority but populous.
I don't mean it that way. I mean that since his tribe is just intrinsically superior to the other tribe, he doesn't need to argue or quarrel with them.
 

Commodus

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you keep using the word facts in your post, but claims made that are attributed to an anonymous source do not qualify as facts ever.

One of the cornerstones of Watergate was an anonymous source. Deep Throat ring a bell?

The authenticity of a claim does not hinge on a person's willingness to go on record. It's whether that person is a credible, and that means reporters who fact check, who get corroborating sources when possible, who do their homework. The Washington Post, the New York Times and other outlets are trustworthy because you know they actually did their research.

Remember this: Michael Flynn would still have his position, lying and betraying his country, if it weren't for anonymous sources exposing the truth.
 
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snarfbot

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Well, you think you're a phenomenal troll.

Feeling something is a victory does not a victory make. Your debating methods are on par with the Kumquat Twat's ability. Astounding how a bunch of 4 year olds think they have anything of value to add to the governing of society. Ah yeah, the playground bully is leading you all over a cliff. But I get it (?)... His music is so melodic and his cheese so Orange! As a progressive I'd hate to see the plague obliterated in such a fashion but y'all seem so willing and eager.

Gave you a chance to respond before clicking ignore but I will send this and be done.

this is an endless stream of personal attacks. nothing to do with the content in the op or the thread, just insults to derail the thread in other words

diversion.
 

agent00f

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Asserting it without evidence is a terrible argument. But you wouldn't understand that since you are mentally handicapped.(Hey, if it works for you why can't it work for me?)

If you didn't lie all the time it might work better for you.

this is getting a little out of hand here, there is nothing constructive here, just an insult really.
moving the goal posts, more ad hominem.

No, it's just a fact that you're intellectually on par with buckshot, which rather makes any discussion pointless. As evidence:

these guys are just derailing the conversation from the topic to personal attacks, in order to get the thread locked.

Pretending the thread is going to get locked because the topic is basically just degenerates mouthing off is exactly the sort of thing buckshot would do.
 

buckshot24

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these guys are just derailing the conversation from the topic to personal attacks, in order to get the thread locked.
There are a group of really insecure liberal drones in here where it becomes 100% search and destroy on the personal level. They are easy to spot.
 
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emperus

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there is no trump russia connection, there never was.

what investigation? seriously.

feel like chiming in on the veracity of the statements made in the video in the op? or continue in this off topic diversion.

The investigation that is currently ongoing in the FBI, you know the one that Comey testified was looking into Russia's meddling into the election and any ties to the Trump campaign. And yes, there are many Trump Russia connections. Flynn just to name one or Manafort,his former campaign manager.

You should actually listen to some real news (not Fox News) or better yet just go on YouTube and listen to the Senate and House hearings on this so you at least sound semi-knowledgeable.
 

snarfbot

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One of the cornerstones of Watergate was an anonymous source. Deep Throat ring a bell?

The authenticity of a claim does not hinge on a person's willingness to go on record. It's whether that person is a credible, and that means reporters who fact check, who get corroborating sources when possible, who do their homework. The Washington Post, the New York Times and other outlets are trustworthy because you know they actually did their research.

Remember this: Michael Flynn would still have his position, lying and betraying his country, if it weren't for anonymous sources exposing the truth.

while ill allow that it possible that anonymous sources can provide good testimony, until that is resolved it shouldnt be 24/7 news on cnn. also you should look at the op which provides proof that cnn is not a trustworthy source, like those others you mentioned in your post.
 

buckshot24

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The investigation that is currently ongoing in the FBI, you know the one that Comey testified was looking into Russia's meddling into the election and any ties to the Trump campaign. And yes, there are many Trump Russia connections. Flynn just to name one or Manafort,his former campaign manager.

You should actually listen to some real news (not Fox News) or better yet just go on YouTube and listen to the Senate and House hearings on this so you at least sound semi-knowledgeable.
CNN is "very fake news", our president has declared so. So there.
 

snarfbot

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The investigation that is currently ongoing in the FBI, you know the one that Comey testified was looking into Russia's meddling into the election and any ties to the Trump campaign. And yes, there are many Trump Russia connections. Flynn just to name one or Manafort,his former campaign manager.

You should actually listen to some real news (not Fox News) or better yet just go on YouTube and listen to the Senate and House hearings on this so you at least sound semi-knowledgeable.

you say yes there are many, but there is literally no hard evidence, and afaik nothing even speculated to directly link trump to russia at all. just tentatively via others on his team, which imo was completely blown out of proportion, which i think that will be born out as fact when the investigation is complete.

remember this investigation is about russian involvement in the election, not specifically trumps russian ties, although its been conflated to be just that 24/7 on cnn and others.
 

buckshot24

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you say yes there are many, but there is literally no hard evidence, and afaik nothing even speculated to directly link trump to russia at all. just tentatively via others on his team, which imo was completely blown out of proportion, which i think will bear out as the investigation completes.

remember this investigation is about russian involvement in the election, not specifically trumps russian ties, although its been conflated to be just that 24/7 on cnn and others.
If there is all this evidence being uncovered by investigators you wonder how none of this has been leaked to the press. Leak after leak and nothing on collusion. All innuendo and zero substance.
 

raildogg

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Pointing out shitty people for what they are is just what responsible adults do.
Doesn't pointing out shitty people mean that you have experience with being one yourself?

Doesn't it take one to know one?

But do go on praising yourself and your fellow tribesmen and tribeswomen. You guys here engage in these tribal wars constantly yet claim you are intellectually superior. If you were, there would be no need for you to continually battle with your lesser opponents. You kind of bring yourself down to their level when you bicker with them constantly.
 

snarfbot

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If there is all this evidence being uncovered by investigators you wonder how none of this has been leaked to the press. Leak after leak and nothing on collusion. All innuendo and zero substance.

yes that is pretty odd, where did the anonymous sources go? first of all how do we know that the ips linking the hacks to russia werent spoofed? is it being attributed to trump because they were all damning to the hillary campaign or because of an actual reason.

so far we have nothing but speculation, and somehow thats news.
 

soundforbjt

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yes that is pretty odd, where did the anonymous sources go? first of all how do we know that the ips linking the hacks to russia werent spoofed? is it being attributed to trump because they were all damning to the hillary campaign or because of an actual reason.

so far we have nothing but speculation, and somehow thats news.
You think you know more than the CIA,FBI,ETC? That's hilarious..
 

VRAMdemon

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This is what happens when the people of a democracy outsource their responsibility as citizens to media corporations. Infotainment. Americans are fed a steady stream of fear mongering bait in ALL their media (not just CNN) to keep a consistent level of anxiety going. Unfortunately some voters cannot figure out that they have been conned by the corporate politicians. They are so empty inside they get their self worth from a political party.

That is what was all over the news yesterday: Koch tells congress they will with hold the money purse until they get their tax cuts and implement the health care bill. Other voters know that their political sports team are liars and beholden to corporation but they will never admit it. They just ignore the facts and focus on stuff like this and do not call out their own lying news source, their own corrupt reps. and Trump. There used to be a whole genre of investigative journalism. Unfortunately things have changed & many would prefer to be famous propagandists in the corporate infotainment industry instead of honest journalists.