michal1980
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That's because you are a moron.
Dropping bombs from drones is not fighting
That's because you are a moron.
They still were NOT defending democracy!! Not democracy as the west defines democracy!!
Our military has been fighting Isis?. That's news to me.
Dropping bombs from drones is not fighting
The day before the Paris attack 43 people were killed and 230 people were injured in an attack that took place in Beirut.
How many of you were even aware of it.
Dude chill! You have your head stuck so far up your rectum you can`t even breath!So Mr. IKnowitAll, what were those people defending, could you enlighten the board ? When a political party makes a rally before the elections, it is not a democratic act ? Or are you going deeper and say that HDP is not defending democracy ? Well, suprise, Turkish elections and political parties are up to EU norms and we are talking about a party defending the rights of an oppressed population in the country in the democratical platforms. Or are you saying that Turkey is not a democracy ? Unless stated by credible International reports it proves otherwise, the worst you can call it is a "democracy with problems".
So coming back to your statement, the ISIS bombing victims in Ankara were not defending democracy, what were they doing actually, I really want to know.
You could say the same with The Native Americans. 250 million murdered, yet our own government doesn't even recognize what we did.
Unless you're talking about drones. Gotta bop a couple dozen innocent schoolchildren every now and then.
Take no offense the US and France have a long love/hate relationship. France made the American revolution possible. They even gave us the Statue of Liberty which now and at the time was a stunning piece of art that was a monumental challenge to transport here.
Just another big event for the French and US was the Beirut Bombings of 1983
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
If we weren't separated by oceans, we'd just be another part of Europe.
WTF are you on about? The dissolution of the Ottoman Empire was barely 100 years ago. And for the most part, they were allowed to keep their lands.
Dare I say that if the winners and losers in that war were reversed, things might not have been so magnanimous.
Europe was well established as a colonial force in North Africa/East Africa and Southern/Eastern Arabian peninsula.
North Africa and the middle east in 1914
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The war allowed them to pretty much take over the middle east for the next few decades and establish their ability to exert control in the post colonial period.
the middle east after the war
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I usually support a lot of things you post, but what is your point.
Things went down the drain when countries left them to fend for themselves I guess.
Kill the infidels, etc.
many in this board have said that they do not feel connected with people who were victims of ISIS, in Turkey, in Lebanon. But the victims in those countries were living western style lifes, defending their rights and democracy. By ignoring them you give the following message :
"No matter what you do, we will never care about you, you are different. In your struggle to be like us, you are pathetic. You better die, we love the French better"
I'm still shocked by the way people don't see why people around the world would come to this conclusion. We bomb hospitals in some country, and they pledge to blow up our hospitals in retaliation? How dare they!?!? Don't they know who we are? We are the Master Race!Kill the infidels, etc.
These terrorist attacks would stop if countries would just learn to stop fucking with people.
What do you mean no retaliation? Terrorism is the retaliation. We attacked them first. Remember the time we overthrew Iran's government and installed a dictator? Remember the time we overthrew Iraq's government and allowed ISIS to be created? Remember the time we gave weapons to ISIS so they could commit acts of terror in Syria? Now we're pretending to be shocked that this could have blowback?We're supposed to ignore and take several decades worth of terrorist attacks "on the chin" until they get bored of killing us? No retaliation?
Sadly, the world expects such attacks in Islamic countries. Any time a nation is all or almost all Muslim, we expect one faction to be murdering civilians supposedly to fight the other faction. It isn't so much that we don't value Muslim lives as it is that we are accustomed to Muslims not valuing Muslim lives. Thus such terrorism is not considered news, just business as usual. By contrast, such massacres are not at all common in Christian nations, so they are news. Especially in nations with whom we have longstanding ties. Neither Turkey nor Lebanon are nations with which we have emotional and/or societal bonds.I am very sad about the innocent lives taken by the ISIS bombers and gunmen in Paris.
But just a day before, an equally bloody attack was in Beirut
4 weeks ago in Ankara, 3 months ago in Suruc, Turkey .. again by ISIS
I am sure you did not hear about them and Facebook did not offer to color your profile with Lebanese and Turkish flags (Turks are the 3rd largest Facebook community in the world FYI)
Such responses of the classic and electronic media, intentional or not, create a doubt in the minds of millions around the globe whether a French life is more precious than a Lebanese or Turkish life.
Think and comment about it
http://usuncut.com/world/beirut-this...get-any-media/
It's a comfy country because as a rule Catholics aren't murdering Protestants (or vice versa) for not worshipping G-d the "right way". The Christian West grew up and embraced civilization, embraced accepting and even celebrating differences. The Islamic East has not.He writes from his comfy chair in his comfy home in his comfy town in his comfy country.
1: Iran has been well behaved by comparison to others.What do you mean no retaliation? Terrorism is the retaliation. We attacked them first. Remember the time we overthrew Iran's government and installed a dictator? Remember the time we overthrew Iraq's government and allowed ISIS to be created? Remember the time we gave weapons to ISIS so they could commit acts of terror in Syria? Now we're pretending to be shocked that this could have blowback?