The draft is coming.

[Jmman]

In my opinion, I think we should do like Israel and everyone has to serve a minimum of two years in the military.........

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Jmman
In my opinion, I think we should do like Israel and everyone has to serve a minimum of two years in the military.........

Who's going to pay for it?

 

[Nietzscheusw]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jmman
In my opinion, I think we should do like Israel and everyone has to serve a minimum of two years in the military.........

Who's going to pay for it?

How dare you ask for a pay? Aren't you a patriot?
Hitler gave bread and water to the millions of unemployed german patriots who built highways, tanks, planes and died in the war, like all good patriots.
What greater goal in life than to die for your country?
Sir, I am starting to think that you are a communist...I shall make this known to the MATRIX database at once!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jmman
In my opinion, I think we should do like Israel and everyone has to serve a minimum of two years in the military.........

Who's going to pay for it?

How dare you ask for a pay? Aren't you a patriot?
Hitler gave bread and water to the millions of unemployed german patriots who built highways, tanks, planes and died in the war, like all good patriots.
What greater goal in life than to die for your country?
Sir, I am starting to think that you are a communist...I shall make this known to the MATRIX database at once!

Hey, STFU, you are annoying!

 

[PingSpike]

This scares the crap out of me. I didn't go to college to die in desert fighting for a bullsh*t oil war. If the Nazi's invade America, I will enlist...but I'm not fighting so everyone else can drive their SUVs around.

Maybe I better move to canada now...I can get citizenship in 3 years I hear.

 

[b0mbrman]

The draft is coming eh?

Can you put a date on this prediction too?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jmman
In my opinion, I think we should do like Israel and everyone has to serve a minimum of two years in the military.........

Who's going to pay for it?

Housing and traing 20M would not come cheap.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jmman
In my opinion, I think we should do like Israel and everyone has to serve a minimum of two years in the military.........

Who's going to pay for it?

Housing and traing 20M would not come cheap.

I wonder if they would use the lottery method like they did in the late 60's and early 70's

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jmman
In my opinion, I think we should do like Israel and everyone has to serve a minimum of two years in the military.........

Who's going to pay for it?

Housing and traing 20M would not come cheap.

I wonder if they would use the lottery method like they did in the late 60's and early 70's

If everyone is going to serve, why would there a be a lottery?

 

[Dissipate]

I own my life, my talents, my time. The government has no right to tell me to fight in a war. I will renounce my citizenship and move either to Canada or some other country.

Get this guys, the government is not only taking FICA out of our paychecks so grandpappy can go on more cruises, they might force us to fight in a war so that Soccer Mom's gas prices go down for her Ford Excursion. Screw that.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Did conquering Iraq give us lower gas prices? Apparently not.
Maybe they are fighting the war so that Halliburton can make more money but it sure ain't to lower gas prioces.

 

[myusername]

Originally posted by: Dissipate
I own my life, my talents, my time. The government has no right to tell me to fight in a war. I will renounce my citizenship and move either to Canada or some other country.

Get this guys, the government is not only taking FICA out of our paychecks so grandpappy can go on more cruises, they might force us to fight in a war so that Soccer Mom's gas prices go down for her Ford Excursion. Screw that.

I mostly agree with your sentiments, but the fact of the matter is that no foreign countries are going to exactly be opening their arms to Americans - even us liberals

Furthermore, the global political situation is much different than it was during Vietnam. Quite frankly, there is a strong possibility that there will be a global war as an outshoot of "the war on terror". It will start as "us vs. terrorists", expand to "us vs. muslims", and finally "white vs. not white" - Where "us" starts with the U.S.(cloaked in the guise of Christianity), then allies with Russia and Western Europe. While moving to Canada may alleviate the immediate problem of dying on some piece of oil-bearing arid land in the short term, where you reside will largely be irrelevant to your life-expectancy within the next two decades.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: myusername

Originally posted by: Dissipate
I own my life, my talents, my time. The government has no right to tell me to fight in a war. I will renounce my citizenship and move either to Canada or some other country.

Get this guys, the government is not only taking FICA out of our paychecks so grandpappy can go on more cruises, they might force us to fight in a war so that Soccer Mom's gas prices go down for her Ford Excursion. Screw that.

I mostly agree with your sentiments, but the fact of the matter is that no foreign countries are going to exactly be opening their arms to Americans - even us liberals

Furthermore, the global political situation is much different than it was during Vietnam. Quite frankly, there is a strong possibility that there will be a global war as an outshoot of "the war on terror". It will start as "us vs. terrorists", expand to "us vs. muslims", and finally "white vs. not white" - Where "us" starts with the U.S.(cloaked in the guise of Christianity), then allies with Russia and Western Europe. While moving to Canada may alleviate the immediate problem of dying on some piece of oil-bearing arid land in the short term, where you reside will largely be irrelevant to your life-expectancy within the next two decades.

Just to clarify, I am not a liberal. I'm a Libertarian.

 

[myusername]

Yeah, I figured there was that possibility which is why I added the winkie

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jmman
In my opinion, I think we should do like Israel and everyone has to serve a minimum of two years in the military.........

Who's going to pay for it?

Housing and traing 20M would not come cheap.

I wonder if they would use the lottery method like they did in the late 60's and early 70's

If everyone is going to serve, why would there a be a lottery?

LOL, because we can't afford having everybody serve!

 

[thebestMAX]

Red

I "won" the lottery for the Army while I was already in the Air Force.

Maybe I am still a fugitive.

 

[alchemize]

What greater goal in life than to die for your country?

Throw down your rifle Frenchie.

There is your idea of honor.

 

[conehead433]

As a computer expert and foreign language specialist I guess I am in deep dookie.

 

[Jmman]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jmman
In my opinion, I think we should do like Israel and everyone has to serve a minimum of two years in the military.........

Who's going to pay for it?

Housing and traing 20M would not come cheap.

Actually, in 2000 they were less than 4 Million 18 year olds in the US. Those four million would have to serve lets say two years mandatory service (which in Israel by the way is virtually unpaid). The Armed Forces would probably never really exceed say 6 million or so at the most if you only had to serve two years. I think in some respects Rangel from NY is right. If your son or daughter were in the service, you probably would think twice about sending them to Iraq or somewhere else unless the need was clear cut. The sons and daughters of the elite often have not served in the past or were given posts without the least bit of danger. If everyone was required to serve regardless of political connections or money, we might actually have less conflicts than we currently do. I also love some of the comments here about running to Canada at the first sign of anything to do with serving your country. In my opinion if you are not willing to serve your country, you should not receieve the benefits of living here either..........

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Jmman

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jmman
In my opinion, I think we should do like Israel and everyone has to serve a minimum of two years in the military.........

Who's going to pay for it?

Housing and traing 20M would not come cheap.

Actually, in 2000 they were less than 4 Million 18 year olds in the US. Those four million would have to serve lets say two years mandatory service (which in Israel by the way is virtually unpaid). The Armed Forces would probably never really exceed say 6 million or so at the most if you only had to serve two years. I think in some respects Rangel from NY is right. If your son or daughter were in the service, you probably would think twice about sending them to Iraq or somewhere else unless the need was clear cut. The sons and daughters of the elite often have not served in the past or were given posts without the least bit of danger. If everyone was required to serve regardless of political connections or money, we might actually have less conflicts than we currently do. I also love some of the comments here about running to Canada at the first sign of anything to do with serving your country. In my opinion if you are not willing to serve your country, you should not receieve the benefits of living here either..........

The numbers from the latest census put the number of people between 15-17 at around 20 million.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Jmman

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jmman
In my opinion, I think we should do like Israel and everyone has to serve a minimum of two years in the military.........

Who's going to pay for it?

Housing and traing 20M would not come cheap.

Actually, in 2000 they were less than 4 Million 18 year olds in the US. Those four million would have to serve lets say two years mandatory service (which in Israel by the way is virtually unpaid). The Armed Forces would probably never really exceed say 6 million or so at the most if you only had to serve two years. I think in some respects Rangel from NY is right. If your son or daughter were in the service, you probably would think twice about sending them to Iraq or somewhere else unless the need was clear cut. The sons and daughters of the elite often have not served in the past or were given posts without the least bit of danger. If everyone was required to serve regardless of political connections or money, we might actually have less conflicts than we currently do. I also love some of the comments here about running to Canada at the first sign of anything to do with serving your country. In my opinion if you are not willing to serve your country, you should not receieve the benefits of living here either..........

That's bogus! My role in society should never be subject to judgment by a public entity. We all know what this leads to. People like you think that you should be allowed to plan for OTHER people what they should and should not do with their time. I have a better plan, how about you plan what you do with YOUR time and I'll plan what I do with MY time. I'm older than 18 thus, I would escape your inane plan but I am sure that 18 year olds out there share my sentiment. Thank you very much.

As in the case for 18 year olds, do you have ANY idea how disruptive this would be to their education? How the hell is someone supposed to get a start in life if they have to spend the years they are supposed to be in college off in some post piddling around in Korea, Afghanistan or Taiwan?

In my opinion if you are not willing to serve your country, you should not receieve the benefits of living here either..........

This sounds familiar, I think Hitler said the same thing.

 

[PingSpike]

Actually, in 2000 they were less than 4 Million 18 year olds in the US. Those four million would have to serve lets say two years mandatory service (which in Israel by the way is virtually unpaid). The Armed Forces would probably never really exceed say 6 million or so at the most if you only had to serve two years. I think in some respects Rangel from NY is right. If your son or daughter were in the service, you probably would think twice about sending them to Iraq or somewhere else unless the need was clear cut. The sons and daughters of the elite often have not served in the past or were given posts without the least bit of danger. If everyone was required to serve regardless of political connections or money, we might actually have less conflicts than we currently do. I also love some of the comments here about running to Canada at the first sign of anything to do with serving your country. In my opinion if you are not willing to serve your country, you should not receieve the benefits of living here either..........

Why aren't you over in Iraq then buddy? Shouldn't you be serving your country?

If the Nazi's invaded America tomorrow, I'd enlist. If I were around during the WWII era, I would have enlisted if I wasn't married and didn't have a family. I still would have answered the draft though. (...I'm not sure if married people were open to be drafted though at that time...) Those were causes to fight for.

But I wouldn't be 'serving my country' over in Iraq. No allies were invaded and needed our support. No one declared war on us over there, at least not anyone who is a country. All I'd be doing is getting ambushed in some desert so that everyone here can save a nickel on gas for their Ford Explorers. I know whats worth fighting for, and that isn't it.

 

[DoubleL]

Why aren't you over in Iraq then buddy? Shouldn't you be serving your country?

If the Nazi's invaded America tomorrow, I'd enlist. If I were around during the WWII era, I would have enlisted if I wasn't married and didn't have a family. I still would have answered the draft though. (...I'm not sure if married people were open to be drafted though at that time...) Those were causes to fight for.

But I wouldn't be 'serving my country' over in Iraq. No allies were invaded and needed our support. No one declared war on us over there, at least not anyone who is a country. All I'd be doing is getting ambushed in some desert so that everyone here can save a nickel on gas for their Ford Explorers. I know whats worth fighting for, and that isn't it.

BS if you wouldn't serve your country in Iraq you wouldn't if the Nazi's invaded or if you were around during the WWll era, You serve your country when your country needs you not when you have the time or think it is right, Things would have to change alot to have a draft, We turn away a lot of young men that would make good soldiers, It is not easy to get into the service like it use to be,

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: DoubleL
BS if you wouldn't serve your country in Iraq you wouldn't if the Nazi's invaded or if you were around during the WWll era, You serve your country when your country needs you not when you have the time or think it is right, Things would have to change alot to have a draft, We turn away a lot of young men that would make good soldiers, It is not easy to get into the service like it use to be,

Don't pretend to know me or my beliefs better than I know them myself. I've extended you that courtesy, I would appreciate it in return. My grandfather fought in WWII and I'd like to think I'd have the same strength as him when faced with a similar threat.

While its unlikely that the draft will happen, a lot of stuff I didn't think would ever actually happen has occured these past few years. It has me worried. I don't like where America is going.

 

[UltraQuiet]

I wonder where all the "I'd fight for my country if it was a cause worth fighting for" people were right after 9/11? Was that not worth fighting for? Or maybe you're just content to let someone else do your fighting for you? Or maybe you're just cowards? Hmmmmm . . .


I'd say two and three. Should be fun to watch some more rationalization by the "intestinal fortitude" challenged, though.