The Derek Chauvin / George Floyd Trial

[Jaskalas]

Now I believe, after watching the videos, that Chauvin will probably get off for one reason, that the neck hold WAS LEGAL in the state of Minnesota when Chauvin used it, however Chauvin used the neck hold inappropriately.

I don't know if they killed anyone teaching them how to hold someone in training.
Perhaps the legal hold is not the same as crushing a man until he dies.
I am enraged after hearing from that EMT.

 

[Viper1j]

Why?
Because cops are racist against blacks?
Are they racist towards other minorities as well?
Muslims, Latinos, Asians, Jews, etc?

Short answer: yes.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I admit I haven't read thru all the posts here, but my observation is that Floyd was definitely on something. Some drug that altered perception and probably the reason that Floyd was not understanding and so over-reacting. I guess drugs can do that? To alter perception? I would think that alteration of perception would usually be a good thing for the drug user-abuser, UNTIL.... something goes wrong like a cop coming along where that drug induced good perception turns into drug induced bad perception. So Floyd freaked, unable to cope nor to understand the situation. Frankly, I doubt that Floyd knew the 20 dollar bill was fake or did Floyd even care because of his being high on drug(s) and that 20 dollar bill was the last thing on Floyd's mind.

And I wonder.... why after leaving the store, why Floyd and his friends remain parked in the car for so long? Why did they not drive away once Floyd returned? Could it be that Floyd was in the car taking more drug(s)? Was Floyd popping something else or taking more of something else before the time police arrived? Was Floyd even more OUT OF IT when cops arrived than Floyd was when inside of the store? If Floyd came out of the store and got into the car and sit there taking more drugs, then the drugs kicked in, and made the situation between Floyd and the police much worse. I would LOVE to ask the other two car occupants "if they" witnessed Floyd taking any drug while sitting in the car? Because THEY, the cars occupants, would know the answer to whether or not Floyd did take something.

I don't know.... It's sad that Floyd had to put up with this and it's sad that cops have to put up with this. Cops are called and they arrive not knowing what the hell they might get into. And Floyd was overly freaking out and totally unable to grasp the reality of the situation. The cops simply wanted to take Floyd downtown to the police station, hand Floyd off to authorities, then go onto their next police call. Yet what happened, they encountered someone totally out of control and totally uncooperative and totally over reacting to a routine arrest situation.

Now I believe, after watching the videos, that Chauvin will probably get off for one reason, that the neck hold WAS LEGAL in the state of Minnesota when Chauvin used it, however Chauvin used the neck hold inappropriately. It will probably come down to the training of how to use the neck hold, and was Chauvin trained correctly? If I were a cop, I'd want those days when I helped little old ladies across the street, got a kids cat out of a tree, helped a stranded driver who ran out of gas. But then you have THOSE OTHER DAYS when you are dealing with drugs and counterfeit money. No wonder cops cop an attitude...

You are really reaching this time! Could it be that Floyd stayed in the car for so long because Floyd actually did not know it was a counterfeit $20 bill??? See how that works?
We get it!! Your a bootlicker.....don`t be ashamed that you favor the cops over Floyd....I bet you voted for trump....lol

 

[brycejones]

How is that racist?

#whome

 

[dank69]

your whole post was "blacks are the only blacks are teh only blacks are teh only blacks are the only" now you say they are not the only 😛
i dont have time right this second to research ccw holders being shot, usually conceal carry means CONCEALED so no gun should be visible. (showing a gun is actually a felony) ((even if you reach the top shelf in a store and your gun becomes exposed it is brandishing a firearm. )

When you get around to it, like I am sure you will 😉, don't waste time researching CCW kills. Research open carry, since that is what he was talking about. You have an amazing ability to not address the exact points he is making and instead only address your bastardized translations of what he said. To an outside observer, it sure looks like cognitive dissonance.

 

[SMOGZINN]

How is that racist?

Because you didn't tell us why you think there will be riots either way, so we are left to assume your reasoning for it, and based on your post history we believe that the most likely answer is because you are racist. Care to explain it to us?

Your answer is going to be something along the lines of 'because there always is' which shows us a racist bias since it is simply not true. It is instead an example of a racist propaganda that is intended to convince people that certain minorities are dangerous and deserve harsher treatment. And I think you truly don't understand that, which is why I think you are a racist. You have internalized the propaganda so much that you don't even question it.

Or, you are going to just dodge this question altogether, because you don't have a non-racist answer, and that too is something we notice.

 

[fskimospy]

Because you didn't tell us why you think there will be riots either way, so we are left to assume your reasoning for it, and based on your post history we believe that the most likely answer is because you are racist. Care to explain it to us?

Your answer is going to be something along the lines of 'because there always is' which shows us a racist bias since it is simply not true. It is instead an example of a racist propaganda that is intended to convince people that certain minorities are dangerous and deserve harsher treatment. And I think you truly don't understand that, which is why I think you are a racist. You have internalized the propaganda so much that you don't even question it.

Or, you are going to just dodge this question altogether, because you don't have a non-racist answer, and that too is something we notice.

Haha, we have reached the inevitable ‘it’s a secret’ part of discussion with pcgeek.

 

[HomerJS]

Not stereotyping. It is just what I believe.

We shall see.

I know it's what you believe. You believe if Chauvin is found guilty and George Floyd gets justice, black people will just go on looting and burning sprees.

I'll let others interpret why you believe that.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I know it's what you believe. You believe if Chauvin is found guilty and George Floyd gets justice, black people will just go on looting and burning sprees.

I'll let others interpret why you believe that.

But remember, regardless of whether a sports team wins or loses, it's totally ok for white people to burn shit down

 

[HomerJS]

But remember, regardless of whether a sports team wins or loses, it's totally ok for white people to burn shit down

Ah the Ron Johnson defense

 

[Fenixgoon]

Ah the Ron Johnson defense

Seems to be the go-to these days 😕

 

[HomerJS]

your whole post was "blacks are the only blacks are teh only blacks are teh only blacks are the only" now you say they are not the only 😛
i dont have time right this second to research ccw holders being shot, usually conceal carry means CONCEALED so no gun should be visible. (showing a gun is actually a felony) ((even if you reach the top shelf in a store and your gun becomes exposed it is brandishing a firearm. )

What the fuck are you talking about. Just answer the question...

Name the white people killed by police for the sole crime of LEGALLY CARRYING???
Name the white people killed by police for the sole crime of WALKING HOME???

 

[killster1]

What the fuck are you talking about. Just answer the question...

Name the white people killed by police for the sole crime of LEGALLY CARRYING???
Name the white people killed by police for the sole crime of WALKING HOME???

like i said its not a legal carry if your gun shows, you can do your own research im not your mom or who ever you seem to depend on in life to hold your hand. Love how calm you are. 🙂

 

[killster1]

When you get around to it, like I am sure you will 😉, don't waste time researching CCW kills. Research open carry, since that is what he was talking about. You have an amazing ability to not address the exact points he is making and instead only address your bastardized translations of what he said. To an outside observer, it sure looks like cognitive dissonance.

well he said ccw thats not open carry so wow now you know what others are thinking too.. i love how everyone can be a psychic. well done! i can reply anything i want this isnt a test or a forced reply environment 😉 good luck in life

 

[HomerJS]

like i said its not a legal carry if your gun shows, you can do your own research im not your mom or who ever you seem to depend on in life to hold your hand. Love how calm you are. 🙂

It is if it's an air rifle and you are in the store where it is sold.

Also Ohio is an OPEN carry state

 

[JD50]

well he said ccw thats not open carry so wow now you know what others are thinking too.. i love how everyone can be a psychic. well done! i can reply anything i want this isnt a test or a forced reply environment 😉 good luck in life

Homer said legally carry, you're the one that brought up CCW.

 

[Greenman]

Chauvin’s lawyer said the officer is 5-foot-9 and 140 pounds. ​

Maybe officers shouldn't be man children? If this sort of vicious treatment is some attempt at making up for inadequacies.
Back in the day there were physical requirements for being hired. You most certainly couldn't be small.

Those physical requirements had to be relaxed to allow women on the force. The same thing has happened with fire fighters.

 

[killster1]

It is if it's an air rifle and you are in the store where it is sold.

Also Ohio is an OPEN carry state

wouldn't it be in your shopping cart in a box? idk every situation you might be thinking of because i don't pretend to know what anyone is thinking, I'm positive every race deals with being shot unjustly IN EVERY SITUATION you realize how many people are killed every year right?, again i hate the police and hate that they over step every situation they can but it happens to more than one type of person and if you say otherwise its a flat out lie.

 

[Greenman]

Back on topic. The off duty EMT's testimony was pretty damning. I also heard a report that there is video of the EMT's that were called having to push the cop off Floyd.

Defense attorney on a radio show thinks a deal will be made before the case goes to the jury. He had some interesting points as to why he felt that way. It was on the Chip Franklin show on KGO 3/31. You can hear it if you go to the KGO website.

 

[killster1]

Homer said legally carry, you're the one that brought up CCW.

yea legally carry, if its open carry who is to say if its legal or not. how about you point to a scenario then i can speculate what someone else was thinking / doing.

 

[JD50]

yea legally carry, if its open carry who is to say if its legal or not. how about you point to a scenario then i can speculate what someone else was thinking / doing.

Open carry is legal in many states, I'm surprised you didn't know this. If I were you I'd slow down a bit.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Among the total offenders, 52 percent were white, and 43 percent were black.

You quote this as if it proves your point but it absolutely does not. It is the bad math explanation.

By your numbers black people, who make up only 13 percent of the population, made up 43 percent of the deaths, while white people, who make up 76 percent of the population, made up 53 percent of the deaths. Do you see the problem?

You are basically going 'Oh, wow! Bigger numbers' without any idea of what those numbers represent.
Here is an idea, instead of 100 dollars why don't you take 1000 pennies!

 

[dank69]

well he said ccw thats not open carry so wow now you know what others are thinking too.. i love how everyone can be a psychic. well done! i can reply anything i want this isnt a test or a forced reply environment 😉 good luck in life

Legally carrying = CCW
got it, jackass

 

[dank69]

like i said its not a legal carry if your gun shows, you can do your own research im not your mom or who ever you seem to depend on in life to hold your hand. Love how calm you are. 🙂

"Do your own research"
Your political opinion is worthless from this point forward.

 

[killster1]

Open carry is legal in many states, I'm surprised you didn't know this. If I were you I'd slow down a bit.

like i said if you are open carrying who is to say you are doing it legally? (felon or in your car with loaded weapon or weapon in your reach. you have to point to situations for me to know what is going on)

You quote this as if it proves your point but it absolutely does not. It is the bad math explanation.

By your numbers black people, who make up only 13 percent of the population, made up 43 percent of the deaths, while white people, who make up 76 percent of the population, made up 53 percent of the deaths. Do you see the problem?

You are basically going 'Oh, wow! Bigger numbers' without any idea of what those numbers represent.
Here is an idea, instead of 100 dollars why don't you take 1000 pennies!

you are right but what about the murders being performed by the 13 percent matching the same 76%... hmmmmmm im well aware of how numbers work 😉