The Dark Knight Rises: Offical Review Thread (Spoilers). $162MM Weekend

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Merad

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Also lame was the romantic story
between Bruce and the rich lady. He meets her once or twice on a purely professional level, not a hint of interest between them, then she knocks on his door and they attack each other like rabbits, then they're snuggling by the fire. Huh? The play between batman and catwoman was much more interesting and better developed.

You had to be paying attention on that one. They had known each other for several years developing the fusion project. And several times near the beginning of the movie Alfred mentioned how Bruce should get involved with her, giving some pretty strong hints that there was already a romantic interest.
 

sigurros81

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I thought he had a few moments like that. When they brought Gordon down into the sewers, he kills one of the guys that brought him down there, and then tells the other guy that he's going to kill him but before that... search Gordon. In that same scene...

"Good... follow him."
"What?"
*bang* *push over railing*

Unfortunately there's a scene like that in every movie starring Arnold back in the 80s.

I thought TDK pushed the boundaries of PG-13, but they really played it safe with this one, anyone felt the same? All the quick cuts during the violent scenes really made the overtall tone felt flat.
 

sigurros81

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You didn't get that feeling when he destroyed half the city or beat the shit out of batman then threw him into a hole to suffer for the rest of his natural life?

Not really because every time Bane talked, he reminded me of a mixture between Sean Connery and Gandalf the Grey. I thought there were going to be little Hobbits popping out.
 

andylawcc

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Also lame was the romantic story
between Bruce and the rich lady. He meets her once or twice on a purely professional level, not a hint of interest between them, then she knocks on his door and they attack each other like rabbits, then they're snuggling by the fire. Huh

dude, give the man a break, he hasn't get laid in 8 years. and he is bruce fucking wayne
 

andylawcc

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I was trying to think of some of the things that made TDK a better movie for me and while thinking of the trilogy I came up with a few things.

In movies 1 and 3 the entire city was going to be destroyed(though you know it won't happen), but in TDK it is never about destroying the city, it is all about killing individuals like the fake batman, and Rachel...

I think that adds a lot to the emotion. They are killing characters who you cared about or knew to a point. I think by having the entire city hostage or trying to kill everyone you take a lot of the emotion/suspense out of it because everyone knows it won't happen.

Just rambling

i think that's a very good point.

but then, that's what made Modern Warfare II great :p
 
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I felt the film was a bit of a letdown after the tour de force that was Dark Knight. The plotting felt jumbled - it was as though they'd started writing the script before they had a clearly conceived outline. It was certainly visually impressive and had some moments of real emotion (mostly thanks to Michael Caine), but on balance I was disappointed.

Like some other posters, I found it very difficult to understand a lot of the dialogue, particularly Bane's. This couldn't have helped in terms of my ability to track the plot. This was probably aggravated by the fact that I was in the VIP balcony (where they have the bar and restaurant and big leather theater seats) of a Showplace Icon - I think this seating position meant that I was getting a relatively low level of the sound coming through the front/center channels, including most of the dialogue. I will probably see the movie again just to see if I can better understand the dialogue by sitting closer to the front.
 

preslove

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If you couldn't understand Bane then your local theater's sound quality is terrible, and the film quality is probably just as bad. You should be thanking Nolan for alerting you to this fact. I understood Bane perfectly, so I'm going to keep going to that one theater because they're doing things correctly.
 

zerocool84

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If you couldn't understand Bane then your local theater's sound quality is terrible, and the film quality is probably just as bad. You should be thanking Nolan for alerting you to this fact. I understood Bane perfectly, so I'm going to keep going to that one theater because they're doing things correctly.

Well they had to tweak Bane's voice already once before the movie came out so there were problems with it before hand.
 
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If you couldn't understand Bane then your local theater's sound quality is terrible, and the film quality is probably just as bad. You should be thanking Nolan for alerting you to this fact. I understood Bane perfectly, so I'm going to keep going to that one theater because they're doing things correctly.

No, in general the theater's sound and film projection are excellent. This is the flagship stadium auditorium in a high-end theater that's less than two years old, with the full complement of modern amenities, including Dolby 7.1 audio. I will try another theater when I see the movie again, but since a number of reviews have complained about this same issue, I don't think it's fair to blame it on one crummy theater.
 

Skel

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**WARNING SPOILER!** Basically the ending was like this:

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lmao.. I looked over to my girlfriend at the end and said "Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb"
 

EvilYoda

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Interesting trivia if you haven't seen it yet...figured it was appropriate given all the talk about Bane/Hardy's voice:

http://youtu.be/zvybZLKH7Zk

You don't have to watch much, but that's what Hardy said he based his voice on.
 

Fingolfin269

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Isn't the middle movie of a good trilogy always the best? Godfather 2, Empire, Two Towers, etc. I never expected this one to top TDK and I hope no one else did either. To be honest I was just hoping it would be as good as Batman Begins (and I think it succeeded).

I'd probably rate them as follows:

BB 8/10
TDK 10/10
DKR 8/10
 

AznAnarchy99

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Isn't the middle movie of a good trilogy always the best? Godfather 2, Empire, Two Towers, etc. I never expected this one to top TDK and I hope no one else did either. To be honest I was just hoping it would be as good as Batman Begins (and I think it succeeded).

I'd probably rate them as follows:

BB 8/10
TDK 10/10
DKR 8/10

Return of the King was the best out of the trilogy.
 

dabuddha

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If you couldn't understand Bane then your local theater's sound quality is terrible, and the film quality is probably just as bad. You should be thanking Nolan for alerting you to this fact. I understood Bane perfectly, so I'm going to keep going to that one theater because they're doing things correctly.

This. I went to a regular viewing (not IMAX) and my whole group had no problems whatsoever understanding everything Bane said (and half of the group speak English as a second language).
 

Red Storm

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Meh. 6/10 maybe.

Seems like they tried to compress a 4-5 hour-long film into 2.5 hours. Dialogue is jumbled if not inaudible during far too many key moments, especially from Bane. Some parts are fairly cliche and predictable as well. I surprisingly found myself getting bored. In terms of a summer popcorn flick, it has nothing on Avengers. It is also the worst of the Nolan trilogy by far.

Seriously? Avengers - like all Marvel films - are (IMHO) shit compared to Nolan's Batman trilogy.
 

Fritzo

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Not really because every time Bane talked, he reminded me of a mixture between Sean Connery and Gandalf the Grey. I thought there were going to be little Hobbits popping out.

I thought he sounded like someone trying to do a bad impression of Patrick Stewart through a tin can.
 

Fritzo

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Seriously? Avengers - like all Marvel films - are (IMHO) shit compared to Nolan's Batman trilogy.

I like them both, but for different reasons. Batman is more brainy and dramatic, while the Avengers is more of a roller-coaster ride.
 

Rakewell

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I wonder if Bain's voice is muffled as a commentary on his critique of power.

Case in point: his language re: the prison system. Basically arguing that it is corrupt and in service to an undemocratic system of power.
 

Skel

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I wonder if Bain's voice is muffled as a commentary on his critique of power.

Case in point: his language re: the prison system. Basically arguing that it is corrupt and in service to an undemocratic system of power.

I really think you're reaching. It was bad sound mixing, nothing more. This is just attempting to create layers in a movie to make it seem more than what it was.
 

Triumph

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dude, give the man a break, he hasn't get laid in 8 years. and he is bruce fucking wayne

That's a lame excuse, if he wanted to get an easy lay then, he should've done that with
catwoman, they clearly had a lot more on-screen chemistry, and you could get away with it in this film. This isn't Adam West Batman.
Imagine in Burton's Batman, if Bruce Wayne took home a random socialite from one of his fund raising balls, rather than Kim Bassinger. How ridiculous would that sound?
 

Red Storm

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That's a lame excuse, if he wanted to get an easy lay then, he should've done that with
catwoman, they clearly had a lot more on-screen chemistry, and you could get away with it in this film. This isn't Adam West Batman.
Imagine in Burton's Batman, if Bruce Wayne took home a random socialite from one of his fund raising balls, rather than Kim Bassinger. How ridiculous would that sound?

Did you watch the movie?
They not only knew each other but had been working together for years.
 

Oil

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Didn't read the whole thread but did anyone else think that Bane's voice sounded like Deckard Cain?