The Dark Knight Rises: Offical Review Thread (Spoilers). $162MM Weekend

[andylawcc]

Didn't read the whole thread but did anyone else think that Bane's voice sounded like Deckard Cain?

as one person already said, "Sean Connery behind a Vader mask"

 

[Svnla]

Here are a few of the holes in the plot (IMO):

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1. Where were the SEALs from the river/sewer system or Delta Force/Spec Ops from the sky? For several months and only a handful of guys from the outside? Even Bruce could get back into the city after almost beaten to death.

2. Cops lined up and attacked the bad guys directly with handguns/shotguns? That's suicidal. And most of the cops went down the the tunel? Who brilliant idea was that?

3. No guard inside the real truck with the bomb? Come on.

4. Kissing (Catwoman) and talking (Talia while she was dying in the truck) WHILE the clock of the bomb is winding down?

 

[Rakewell]

I really think you're reaching. It was bad sound mixing, nothing more. This is just attempting to create layers in a movie to make it seem more than what it was.

I'm not reaching. I'm thinking it could be intentional.

Theaters all across America fucking up his audio in the same fashion? Come on.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/365397/20120720/dark-knight-bane-batman-mask-voice-tom.htm

If it were up to "Dark Knight" director Christopher Nolan, Bane would be ever harder to hear. When footage from "The Dark Knight Rises" first screened for audiences seeing "Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol" last year, viewers complained that Bane was nearly inaudible.

The audio has been altered, but there are still unclear moments throughout the film, which Nolan seems to be encouraging.

 

[bfdd]

Good, but in all honesty Avengers was better. I liked it a lot, I thought Bane and Catwoman were awesome. Didn't have any issue with understanding Bane, thought the voice quite fit the character actually.

 

[dabuddha]

Catwoman did make me tingly all over in my big boy parts!

 

[andylawcc]

Here are a few of the holes in the plot (IMO):

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1. Where were the SEALs from the river/sewer system or Delta Force/Spec Ops from the sky? For several months and only a handful of guys from the outside? Even Bruce could get back into the city after almost beaten to death.

[plays Nolan's card]it's a movie.

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2. Cops lined up and attacked the bad guys directly with handguns/shotguns? That's suicidal.

ya, that was pretty dumb imo.

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3. No guard inside the real truck with the bomb? Come on.

to be fair, if extra guards are placed, then it will be obvious that this truck has the real bomb and not a decoy.

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4. Kissing (Catwoman) and talking (Talia while she was dying in the truck) WHILE the clock of the bomb is winding down?

oh come on, i would banged her, let alone kiss her, WHILE the clocking is winding down. yolo.

 

[sigurros81]

Here are a few of the holes in the plot (IMO):

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1. Where were the SEALs from the river/sewer system or Delta Force/Spec Ops from the sky? For several months and only a handful of guys from the outside? Even Bruce could get back into the city after almost beaten to death.

2. Cops lined up and attacked the bad guys directly with handguns/shotguns? That's suicidal. And most of the cops went down the the tunel? Who brilliant idea was that?

3. No guard inside the real truck with the bomb? Come on.

4. Kissing (Catwoman) and talking (Talia while she was dying in the truck) WHILE the clock of the bomb is winding down?

And that's why the movie is completely overrated. I think with this one, they tried too hard to be 'realistic' when at the end of the day it's still just a comic book movie with a comic book plot. It's quite disappointing that the story had so many stupid things happening just to help propel the plot forward. I mean, after TDK and this movie, I will say that Gotham Police is the most incompetent police force in cinema history. Hell, they make the LAPD look good.

 

[KeithTalent]

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1. I did not buy Wayne falling for Talia for one second. That progressed way too fast and made no sense.

2. How did Wayne figure out Raz-Al Ghoul had a kid? He learned it from an apparition in the prison? Something created in his own mind had information on something real in the world? I don't know, I tuned out a bit around that part.

Agreed on the first point above where Wayne just walks in to the city, yet everybody else is unable to get anywhere? Hmmm...

KT

 

[sygyzy]

Did anyone think the very first scene when the officer/agent is talking to the hooded prisoners was some of the worst acting you've ever seen?

Also, when they make the escape and Bane tells one of the henchmen "No, they expect a body," did he mean his (Bane) own? Later, they allude to this when someone says "We thought the nuclear scientist died in the plane crash." This is a huge leap in logic. First of all, why would they only expect to find one body on a plane that was carrying 3 prisoners, the scientist, 2 pilots, and half a dozen agents? And if they did find one body, why would they automatically assume it was the scientist and not someone else, especially since the henchman and the scientist don't look alike and wouldn't have matching DNA?

 

[preslove]

No, in general the theater's sound and film projection are excellent. This is the flagship stadium auditorium in a high-end theater that's less than two years old, with the full complement of modern amenities, including Dolby 7.1 audio. I will try another theater when I see the movie again, but since a number of reviews have complained about this same issue, I don't think it's fair to blame it on one crummy theater.

And yet, they apparently didn't notice during the screening that you couldn't hear Bane and fix the sound. If you've ever worked at a movie theater, you'd know that this is why they do early screenings for staff. Sometimes you have to adjust the sound or projector. Your theater may be new, but it's managed by an incompetent.

 

[Svnla]

[plays Nolan's card]it's a movie.

I know it is just a movie, I am just playing nitty picky role. Now if the setting was the prison or the blocked tunnel, then it would be much harder to get in or out.

ya, that was pretty dumb imo.



to be fair, if extra guards are placed, then it will be obvious that this truck has the real bomb and not a decoy.

I am talking about guards INSIDE the truck or somekind of booby traps/protection for the bomb that would be invisible from the outside.


oh come on, i would banged her, let alone kiss her, WHILE the clocking is winding down. yolo

Don't get me wrong, I would do both of them and more but AFTER the dam bomb is gone. And it was not like they had a lot of time but a few minutes.

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My answers in bolded.

 

[ElFenix]

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1. I did not buy Wayne falling for Talia for one second. That progressed way too fast and made no sense.

he'd known her previously through the fund raising for the energy project.

 

[Triumph]

Did you watch the movie?

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They not only knew each other but had been working together for years.

Yes I watched the movie. I guess I should have noticed the one line mentioning their past history together, in 2 hours and 45 minutes, as opposed to the 15 minutes of on screen flirting between bat and cat.

 

[oddyager]

Did anyone think the very first scene when the officer/agent is talking to the hooded prisoners was some of the worst acting you've ever seen?

Also, when they make the escape and Bane tells one of the henchmen "No, they expect a body," did he mean his (Bane) own? Later, they allude to this when someone says "We thought the nuclear scientist died in the plane crash." This is a huge leap in logic. First of all, why would they only expect to find one body on a plane that was carrying 3 prisoners, the scientist, 2 pilots, and half a dozen agents? And if they did find one body, why would they automatically assume it was the scientist and not someone else, especially since the henchman and the scientist don't look alike and wouldn't have matching DNA?

I am almost certain the lead CIA guy (I agree his acting was atrocious) mentioned the flight manifest was the scientist plus one prisoner which was why Bane wanted that guy to remain behind.

 

[KeithTalent]

he'd known her previously through the fund raising for the energy project.

Yeah,

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but it still felt like the kiss came from out of nowhere. I guess we are supposed to build a relationship for them based upon that brief description of their working relationship,

but it just was not enough for me.

KT

 

[Skel]

I'm not reaching. I'm thinking it could be intentional.

Theaters all across America fucking up his audio in the same fashion? Come on.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/365397/20120720/dark-knight-bane-batman-mask-voice-tom.htm

If it was intentional then all theaters would have it, not just some. My guess would be the source was jacked, or mixed for the wrong soundsystem.

 

[Ns1]

Yes I watched the movie. I guess I should have noticed the one line mentioning their past history together, in 2 hours and 45 minutes, as opposed to the 15 minutes of on screen flirting between bat and cat.

Yeah,

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but it still felt like the kiss came from out of nowhere. I guess we are supposed to build a relationship for them based upon that brief description of their working relationship,

but it just was not enough for me.

KT

They had a relationship that lasted at least 3-4 years, during which Miranda invested a huge sum of money into their joint nuclear fission project. After the project failed (3 years before TDKR), Miranda tried to contact Bruce numerous times. IIRC, Bruce made a comment along the lines of "persistent isn't she?"

She has supported Wayne Enterprises throughout the time and built up rapport and trust with Fox, so much so that Bruce AND Fox would entrust Wayne enterprises to her.

I honestly don't see how you guys can claim they only had a brief professional relationship.

Did anyone think the very first scene when the officer/agent is talking to the hooded prisoners was some of the worst acting you've ever seen?

Also, when they make the escape and Bane tells one of the henchmen "No, they expect a body," did he mean his (Bane) own? Later, they allude to this when someone says "We thought the nuclear scientist died in the plane crash." This is a huge leap in logic. First of all, why would they only expect to find one body on a plane that was carrying 3 prisoners, the scientist, 2 pilots, and half a dozen agents? And if they did find one body, why would they automatically assume it was the scientist and not someone else, especially since the henchman and the scientist don't look alike and wouldn't have matching DNA?

Per the CIA agent, they had Scientist + 1 henchman on the flight manifest. Thus, either bane or his brother (the two hooded henchmen) needed to die to meet the one henchman body count. They also expected the Scientist, which is why they brought in another body and pumped the Scientists' blood into the dead body (at least that was my interpretation, thus matching DNA)

 

[ElFenix]

Yeah,

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but it still felt like the kiss came from out of nowhere. I guess we are supposed to build a relationship for them based upon that brief description of their working relationship,

but it just was not enough for me.

KT

if i'm bruce wayne and i'm a recluse,

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i'm probably jumping at the first piece of high class tail that throws itself at me after i've made the decision to get back into the world, and better still it's someone he knows and someone alfred has been suggesting to me for a while now.

besides,

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she had an ulterior motive

Per the CIA agent, they had Scientist + 1 henchman on the flight manifest. Thus, either bane or his brother (the two hooded henchmen) needed to die to meet the one henchman body count. They also expected the Scientist, which is why they brought in another body and pumped the Scientists' blood into the dead body (at least that was my interpretation, thus matching DNA)

yup. seems like a lot of people have missed a lot in this movie.

 

[KeithTalent]

It felt

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brief and it sounded just like a business relationship. All I got from it was that they had invested in a project together and then he'd avoided her for several years, I'm supposed to infer some sort of romantic interest from that?

KT

 

[KeithTalent]

if i'm bruce wayne and i'm a recluse,

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i'm probably jumping at the first piece of high class tail that throws itself at me after i've made the decision to get back into the world, and better still it's someone he knows and someone alfred has been suggesting to me for a while now.

besides,

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she had an ulterior motive

Yes,

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I understand her motivation completely, but not his.

KT

 

[Ns1]

Yes,

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I understand her motivation completely, but not his.

KT

Alfred pushing him to live his life and move on? Alfred + Fox suggesting Tate to him?

 

[Destiny]

One not bad looking rich chick and one poor but hot chick - I think bruce wayne did well...

 

[ElFenix]

Yes,

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I understand her motivation completely, but not his.

KT

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you've just lost everything and a nice piece throws herself at you, and you say no?

 

[Rakewell]

If it was intentional then all theaters would have it, not just some. My guess would be the source was jacked, or mixed for the wrong soundsystem.

True,

But maybe some theaters adjusted their audio to compensate for the distortions, while others did not.

I've never seen such widespread complaining about audio in a movie in my life. Have you?

I saw it yesterday in NYC, and was very discouraged by Bain's voice.

 

[ViviTheMage]

iono what was up with Bane, but his voice sounded different almost every time...higher pitched, lower pitched, medium, I was confused what was going on there.