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Jeff7

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Originally posted by: daniel49
And you prefer to believe your uncle was a monkey?:roll:
"Preference" is not relevant.

So what if our distant ancestors were ape-like animals. That's a LONG time ago. People insist that they're some amazing, divine creation. Fine. Prove it. Prove that you can be better. Thus far, humans don't seem to be trying too hard. I saw a clip of Schindler's List just a few hours ago. It's heart-wrenching stuff. Humans are capable of inexplicable horrors. Others are capable of finally coming to their senses and doing what they can to right the wrongs. Or on the other end of the spectrum of severity, there are parents fighting at Chuck E. Cheese's, like a bunch of chimps fighting over good spots in a fig tree. Replace the yelling with chimp-like screams, and our behavior doesn't look at all dissimilar to theirs.

Some "perfect" creations we are. If you go for the whole Adam and Eve thing, with the apple, evidently we were created with the capacity for disobedience, and the capacity to lie. And this was done so in the presence of a God who punishes without possibility of forgiveness - until you die. Original sin....yeah, load of BS there. Punish the son for the sins of the father, that sort of thing. So let's say Adam and Eve were around 6000 years ago. 6000 years later, and God's "original sin" punishment still stands. I'm sure glad our justice system doesn't mete out judgments like that. Otherwise most of the population would be in prison for the crimes of their distant ancestors.

And our legal system prohibits torture. Why, I don't know. The Christian deity has a place specially designed to be a place of torture. Eternal torture. All for making a wrong decision about some trite little detail: The nature of the Universe and existence itself, within one tiny human lifespan.



Also, on the subject of us being "different" than animals:
We eat like animals. We sleep like animals. We have sex like animals. We form pair-bonds like animals. We share genes with animals (and our DNA even has virus DNA in it. Did God mix up the code?). And we die like animals.
But we're not animals.
:confused:


Originally posted by: ZzZGuy
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As it stands creationism = god of the cracks. Science threatens what they believe and that is a very sad thing. Oh and brain wishing children into basing the world around them on lies so when they grow up it is too much for them to except everything they know is wrong and those they loved lied to them is just wrong. Wait till they are old enough to understand and let them decide if they believe.
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And indeed, religion has always been a gap-filler.
Lightning was once the work of gods. So was the motion of the Sun. Rain, earthquakes, tornadoes, sickness - all things once done by gods or spirits. Science continues to make discoveries about the world around us, shining a piercing light into the dark ignorance of religion. Zeus has been dethroned. Ra is unemployed. Spirits of the sky no longer need to make it rain, for condensation in clouds does it. Tectonic plate motion causes earthquakes, and tornadoes are simple random eddies forming in certain storm systems. Illnesses, no longer caused be demonic possession or bad blood, can now be traced to microorganisms or genetic anomalies.

Gods are left picking up the scraps, hanging out in the pieces of remaining darkness, always careful to step just outside the light of scientific progress.



 

Mr. Lennon

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Jul 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
I'm sure this has been posted before, but I was inspired to post it again by the ignorant fools in the creationism vs evolution thread. How they managed to find idiots willing to throw 25 million at them to create this fairy tale center is absolutely fucking amazing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzjjxi7f0Oc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Museum
http://www.creationmuseum.org/

You try to sound all-knowing - but your delivery leaves a lot to be desired. Lots of hate in you.

What kind of thread is this anyways? Just like your Milk thread in OT. "I am right. Everyone else is stupid. Discuss." ;)

Bigotry = stupid

I have no tolerance for bigots.

I do not hate anyone, but issues such as this museum and the gay hater bigots really aggravate me.


Believe it or not, I do believe in a god. I just despise religion and what it does to people.
 

manowar821

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I'd like to see this assault on facts and empirical evidence be crushed mercilessly. It's absolutely asinine that people even considered teaching fairy-tales as valid "opinion" in PUBLIC school. Teach it in Mythology class, sure! But keep it the fuck away from facts, science, and reason.

Come back with evidence and proof of "gods" and "devils", then maybe someone will take you seriously.
 

Gunslinger08

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Nov 18, 2001
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I find it ironic that someone who was so put off by the negative view of homosexuality holds such contempt for another group with their own beliefs. I guess it's okay if they don't agree with you?
 

Gunslinger08

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Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
I'm sure this has been posted before, but I was inspired to post it again by the ignorant fools in the creationism vs evolution thread. How they managed to find idiots willing to throw 25 million at them to create this fairy tale center is absolutely fucking amazing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzjjxi7f0Oc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Museum
http://www.creationmuseum.org/

You try to sound all-knowing - but your delivery leaves a lot to be desired. Lots of hate in you.

What kind of thread is this anyways? Just like your Milk thread in OT. "I am right. Everyone else is stupid. Discuss." ;)

Bigotry = stupid

I have no tolerance for bigots.

I do not hate anyone, but issues such as this museum and the gay hater bigots really aggravate me.


Believe it or not, I do believe in a god. I just despise religion and what it does to people.

I think you're incorrect to assume anyone who disagrees with your views of what is right and socially/morally acceptable is a bigot.
 

BeauJangles

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Aug 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: spidey07
Ah yes. Typical liberal mentality. I'm not trolling but it is really funny to see how their mind works.

Freedom of speech? Sure, as long as you agree with me.
Freedom of religion? Sure, as long as you agree with my theology.

Don't agree with me? Then you're a hater and thou shalt be punished.

Careful what you worship.

I see very few evolution supporters (not all of whom are "liberals") trying to force the local church to preach about evolution when discussing Genesis. I see a lot of creationists trying to force their way into the science classroom, up to an including the President of the United States.

So tell me again who the close-minded folks are?

The theory of evolution as it stands today contradicts the Bible, and therefore my tax dollars being used to destroy my religious beliefs and those of the kids of parent's who are trying to save their kids from a secular life. I'm a fan of vouchers for this very reason, so my tax dollars aren't spent to work against my own beliefs.

The government's job is to separate church and state. Your beliefs are exactly that -- your beliefs. They aren't anyone else's. So, unless you are pompous enough to believe that your own beliefs should be everyone's beliefs, then I don't understand how you can possibly oppose the government keeping religion out of the classroom.

It boggles my mind. You're a small-government conservative who believes we should have as little government as possible and yet you're demanding that the government step into people's lives and force them to learn your story of creation.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Yet another monument to the stupidity of man that future generations will surely find amusing.
 

PottedMeat

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Apr 17, 2002
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If it's profitable I wouldn't mind owning a piece of that. The true question is whether I can see Jesus spreading the word on a raptor.
 

DukeN

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Curator here would be the perfect job for Joe the plumber! Or Palin. Or most of the right wingers.
 
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Originally posted by: PottedMeat
If it's profitable I wouldn't mind owning a piece of that. The true question is whether I can see Jesus spreading the word on a Jesus Horse.

Fixed.
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: PottedMeat
If it's profitable I wouldn't mind owning a piece of that. The true question is whether I can see Jesus spreading the word on a raptor.
Damn effective.

"Accept me as your savior, or else Mittens here will turn you into a chew toy."

 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Ah yes. Typical liberal mentality. I'm not trolling but it is really funny to see how their mind works.

Freedom of speech? Sure, as long as you agree with me.
Freedom of religion? Sure, as long as you agree with my theology.

Don't agree with me? Then you're a hater and thou shalt be punished.

Careful what you worship.

The difference is called treason.

You radical righties are hell bent on destroying America and for the most part, Misssion Accomplished.
 

KGB

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May 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
If it's profitable I wouldn't mind owning a piece of that. The true question is whether I can see Jesus spreading the word on a Jesus Horse.

Fixed.

I wanna ride the pony!!!! :D
 

Mr. Lennon

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Jul 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
I'm sure this has been posted before, but I was inspired to post it again by the ignorant fools in the creationism vs evolution thread. How they managed to find idiots willing to throw 25 million at them to create this fairy tale center is absolutely fucking amazing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzjjxi7f0Oc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Museum
http://www.creationmuseum.org/

You try to sound all-knowing - but your delivery leaves a lot to be desired. Lots of hate in you.

What kind of thread is this anyways? Just like your Milk thread in OT. "I am right. Everyone else is stupid. Discuss." ;)

Bigotry = stupid

I have no tolerance for bigots.

I do not hate anyone, but issues such as this museum and the gay hater bigots really aggravate me.


Believe it or not, I do believe in a god. I just despise religion and what it does to people.

I think you're incorrect to assume anyone who disagrees with your views of what is right and socially/morally acceptable is a bigot.

Since most of you bible bangers don't understand the definition of a bigot, I will lay it out for you

Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

The moment you step foot into that voting booth to vote against homosexuals right to marry or adopt children, you are effectively putting your bigotry into practice. Not only that, but you are VIOLATING OUR US CONSTITUTION. These propositions are ILLEGAL.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Creationism is an insult to God. Instead of accepting the world as it is (or as God created it, if you prefer), Creationists insist that the world conform to their beliefs for the sake of their own power and glory, God be damned. Creationists are idolaters that worship the words in a book before the God-given reality in front of them. Hypocrites.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: spidey07
Ah yes. Typical liberal mentality. I'm not trolling but it is really funny to see how their mind works.

Freedom of speech? Sure, as long as you agree with me.
Freedom of religion? Sure, as long as you agree with my theology.

Don't agree with me? Then you're a hater and thou shalt be punished.

Careful what you worship.

I see very few evolution supporters (not all of whom are "liberals") trying to force the local church to preach about evolution when discussing Genesis. I see a lot of creationists trying to force their way into the science classroom, up to an including the President of the United States.

So tell me again who the close-minded folks are?

The theory of evolution as it stands today contradicts the Bible, and therefore my tax dollars being used to destroy my religious beliefs and those of the kids of parent's who are trying to save their kids from a secular life. I'm a fan of vouchers for this very reason, so my tax dollars aren't spent to work against my own beliefs.

You and Spidey are fscking morons.

Spidey because he can't ever defend a single notion without falling back on the weak and stupid "Wah the liberals are picking on me!" card, and you because you're just an idiot. There is no contradiction between evolution and the Bible except in your brainwashed head, nor does the study of science violate your right to your religious beliefs. If science were to prove your beliefs wrong, you are still free to believe them all you wish, as the constitution guarantees. There is NO constitutional protection to protect one's religious beliefs from the scrutiny of truth. None.
 

Gunslinger08

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Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
I'm sure this has been posted before, but I was inspired to post it again by the ignorant fools in the creationism vs evolution thread. How they managed to find idiots willing to throw 25 million at them to create this fairy tale center is absolutely fucking amazing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzjjxi7f0Oc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Museum
http://www.creationmuseum.org/

You try to sound all-knowing - but your delivery leaves a lot to be desired. Lots of hate in you.

What kind of thread is this anyways? Just like your Milk thread in OT. "I am right. Everyone else is stupid. Discuss." ;)

Bigotry = stupid

I have no tolerance for bigots.

I do not hate anyone, but issues such as this museum and the gay hater bigots really aggravate me.


Believe it or not, I do believe in a god. I just despise religion and what it does to people.

I think you're incorrect to assume anyone who disagrees with your views of what is right and socially/morally acceptable is a bigot.

Since most of you bible bangers don't understand the definition of a bigot, I will lay it out for you

Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

The moment you step foot into that voting booth to vote against homosexuals right to marry or adopt children, you are effectively putting your bigotry into practice. Not only that, but you are VIOLATING OUR US CONSTITUTION. These propositions are ILLEGAL.

1. I didn't say I'm a "bible banger"
2. I also agree that propositions to amend a state constitution to deny a right to one group are illegal.
3. Your definition of bigot (as well that of many others) is flawed. It doesn't include a clause for being intolerant of things that aren't socially/morally acceptable to the majority. I would not consider homosexuality to be socially/morally acceptable to the majority in the US. Would you call someone a bigot for being intolerant of the KKK or NAMBLA? I'm not equating those groups to homosexuals. I'm saying you can't call someone a bigot when the thing they're intolerant about isn't socially/morally acceptable to the majority. This is why you don't call our founding fathers bigots for owning slaves.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Oh, you mean like those in this thread who consistently bash Christians on this forum? Thanks for clarifying!
 

alien42

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Nov 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Oh, you mean like those in this thread who consistently bash Christians on this forum? Thanks for clarifying!

Christians tend to be intolerant of all other religions and that is a problem. anyone who claims "i am right and everyone else is wrong" is an idiot which is reflected in athiests as well as Christians. Buddhism is the only organize religion i am aware of that welcomes everyone to worship alongside them, no matter what they believe. of course you are a Christian apologist as hardcore as you are a Bush apologist.
 

Rainsford

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Apr 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: spidey07
Ah yes. Typical liberal mentality. I'm not trolling but it is really funny to see how their mind works.

Freedom of speech? Sure, as long as you agree with me.
Freedom of religion? Sure, as long as you agree with my theology.

Don't agree with me? Then you're a hater and thou shalt be punished.

Careful what you worship.

I see very few evolution supporters (not all of whom are "liberals") trying to force the local church to preach about evolution when discussing Genesis. I see a lot of creationists trying to force their way into the science classroom, up to an including the President of the United States.

So tell me again who the close-minded folks are?

The theory of evolution as it stands today contradicts the Bible, and therefore my tax dollars being used to destroy my religious beliefs and those of the kids of parent's who are trying to save their kids from a secular life. I'm a fan of vouchers for this very reason, so my tax dollars aren't spent to work against my own beliefs.

The difference is that your point of view is religious, while evolution is based on science. When it comes to what tax dollars support, the 1st amendment makes it VERY clear that if you want to see your religious beliefs supported, you do it on your own dime. That's one of the prices of living in a society that was founded on pluralism, you have the right to believe whatever you like, but you don't have the right to force the government to believe the same thing. And the idea that the presence of something you disagree with in society "destroys" your beliefs is ridiculous, if only because I could make the exact same argument about your religious teachings "destroying" my belief in science. That's not how a free society works, and you know it.
 

Rainsford

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Apr 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
I find it ironic that someone who was so put off by the negative view of homosexuality holds such contempt for another group with their own beliefs. I guess it's okay if they don't agree with you?

Get back to me when someone is proposing a law banning churches.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Oh, you mean like those in this thread who consistently bash Christians on this forum? Thanks for clarifying!

Christians tend to be intolerant of all other religions and that is a problem. anyone who claims "i am right and everyone else is wrong" is an idiot which is reflected in athiests as well as Christians. Buddhism is the only organize religion i am aware of that welcomes everyone to worship alongside them, no matter what they believe. of course you are a Christian apologist as hardcore as you are a Bush apologist.

Got it. You've made it clear that its okay to belittle certain groups and not others. Excellent!
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Oh, you mean like those in this thread who consistently bash Christians on this forum? Thanks for clarifying!

Christians tend to be intolerant of all other religions and that is a problem. anyone who claims "i am right and everyone else is wrong" is an idiot which is reflected in athiests as well as Christians. Buddhism is the only organize religion i am aware of that welcomes everyone to worship alongside them, no matter what they believe. of course you are a Christian apologist as hardcore as you are a Bush apologist.
I'd just like to add that NOT ALL Christians tend to be intolerant.

That way I don't have a problem with what it is you were trying to say!

:p

 

alien42

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Nov 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Oh, you mean like those in this thread who consistently bash Christians on this forum? Thanks for clarifying!

Christians tend to be intolerant of all other religions and that is a problem. anyone who claims "i am right and everyone else is wrong" is an idiot which is reflected in athiests as well as Christians. Buddhism is the only organize religion i am aware of that welcomes everyone to worship alongside them, no matter what they believe. of course you are a Christian apologist as hardcore as you are a Bush apologist.

Got it. You've made it clear that its okay to belittle certain groups and not others. Excellent!

i did not belittle anyone and must i remind you that Sunday morning is the most segregated time in the US.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Oh, you mean like those in this thread who consistently bash Christians on this forum? Thanks for clarifying!

Christians tend to be intolerant of all other religions and that is a problem. anyone who claims "i am right and everyone else is wrong" is an idiot which is reflected in athiests as well as Christians. Buddhism is the only organize religion i am aware of that welcomes everyone to worship alongside them, no matter what they believe. of course you are a Christian apologist as hardcore as you are a Bush apologist.

Got it. You've made it clear that its okay to belittle certain groups and not others. Excellent!

i did not belittle anyone and must i remind you that Sunday morning is the most segregated time in the US.

WTH kind of statement is that? Segregation was forced on people. People have the CHOICE of going to Church on Sunday morning.