The Cowardice of the Conservative

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
For some reason, I want to be a libertarian now. Is that normal?

yes it is , if in fact you felt like the author hated conservatives like you, then this would give you a temporary sense of euphoria , making you feel they understood you.

 

[daveymark]

that article lacks logic and contains plenty of double-speak and over generalizations. Maybe I'll hit on each erroneous point in that article sometime this week.

Good for a laugh, thanks OP.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: daveymark
that article lacks logic and contains plenty of double-speak and over generalizations. Maybe I'll hit on each erroneous point in that article sometime this week.

Good for a laugh, thanks OP.

Lmao. Oh yeah, sometime this week...

 

[outriding]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: daveymark
that article lacks logic and contains plenty of double-speak and over generalizations. Maybe I'll hit on each erroneous point in that article sometime this week.

Good for a laugh, thanks OP.

Lmao. Oh yeah, sometime this week...

What he meant to say was..

"I will post back after I consult rushlimbaugh.com, billoliely.com,anncoulter.com, and etc so I can get all the right wing talking points because thinking is too hard on my brain."

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: outriding
thinking is too hard on my brain

 

[Starbuck1975]

So what part of the article do you disagree with?

The fact that the author tackles some fairly complex issues, and writes off conservatives based on his experiences in very specific although not particularly well documented examples.

The article is an opinion piece, based on "observations" from the author, and his arguments do not support his conclusion that conseratives are cowards. Now if the article was titled "The Hypocrisy of Conservatives," perhaps the author would have a point...but in doing so, would totally overlook the fact that their is hypocrisy aplenty on both sides of the political divide.

This is a flame bait, troll editorial that leaves little room for discussion...also known as a circle jerk article.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

So what part of the article do you disagree with?

The fact that the author tackles some fairly complex issues, and writes off conservatives based on his experiences in very specific although not particularly well documented examples.

The article is an opinion piece, based on "observations" from the author, and his arguments do not support his conclusion that conseratives are cowards. Now if the article was titled "The Hypocrisy of Conservatives," perhaps the author would have a point...but in doing so, would totally overlook the fact that their is hypocrisy aplenty on both sides of the political divide.

This is a flame bait, troll editorial that leaves little room for discussion...also known as a circle jerk article.

I'd go one step further and change the title to "The Hypocracy of the Republican Party". I don't think that the opinion piece takes into account (or it deliberately overlooks) the fact that the average rank and file Republican is not too happy with what the Republican party has been doing for the last decade or so.

At the present time I don't think the party leadership is in tune with it's members on a number of issues.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

So what part of the article do you disagree with?

The fact that the author tackles some fairly complex issues, and writes off conservatives based on his experiences in very specific although not particularly well documented examples.

The article is an opinion piece, based on "observations" from the author, and his arguments do not support his conclusion that conseratives are cowards. Now if the article was titled "The Hypocrisy of Conservatives," perhaps the author would have a point...but in doing so, would totally overlook the fact that their is hypocrisy aplenty on both sides of the political divide.

This is a flame bait, troll editorial that leaves little room for discussion...also known as a circle jerk article.

bingo. The "I met one conservative, so all conservatives must be like him" argument won't work, at least not to anyone with the basic capability to rationalize thought.

If I based my coneption of liberals on the posters in this thread, there would be no hope for liberals whatsoever.

 

[Moonbeam]

I suppose the reason there's such things as Libertarians and Conservatives is because they are not the same thing. Humans are sufficiently creative to have invented more than one kind of stupidity. Even Libertarians come in a million flavors.

People attach themselves to thing that end in ism because they are filled with self hate that drives them to seek an imaginary state in which they can be free of that hate. But that is impossible because once the hate is repressed out of conscious awareness one just endlessly chases his tail. Repressed hate always looks like it's origin is out there in the world where it can be managed by government. Thus man endlessly seeks an answer out there that can only be solved 'in here' in one's own consciousness.

Man is upside down to reality living in a dream.

 

[Steeplerot]

blah blah, libertarians are so real to the out for yourself angry white male greedhead types, conservatives are wusses. Heard it all before. Capitalism is a self destructive force eating itself as we speak.

 

[outriding]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: outriding
thinking is too hard on my brain

Thank you for proving my point

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I suppose the reason there's such things as Libertarians and Conservatives is because they are not the same thing. Humans are sufficiently creative to have invented more than one kind of stupidity. Even Libertarians come in a million flavors.

People attach themselves to thing that end in ism because they are filled with self hate that drives them to seek an imaginary state in which they can be free of that hate. But that is impossible because once the hate is repressed out of conscious awareness one just endlessly chases his tail. Repressed hate always looks like it's origin is out there in the world where it can be managed by government. Thus man endlessly seeks an answer out there that can only be solved 'in here' in one's own consciousness.

Man is upside down to reality living in a dream.

Dude...the Matrix has you

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: outriding

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: outriding
thinking is too hard on my brain

Thank you for proving my point

:lips:

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
blah blah, libertarians are so real to the out for yourself angry white male greedhead types, conservatives are wusses. Heard it all before. Capitalism is a self destructive force eating itself as we speak.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Capitalism has been around since the dawn of man. It isn't going anywhere.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Stunt
I'm being a realist Dave. Nothing in life is free, it's not as simple as screwing the corporations at every chance and hope you are doing good because of it.

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
blah blah, libertarians are so real to the out for yourself angry white male greedhead types, conservatives are wusses. Heard it all before. Capitalism is a self destructive force eating itself as we speak.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Capitalism has been around since the dawn of man. It isn't going anywhere.

Don't feed the trolls.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
blah blah, libertarians are so real to the out for yourself angry white male greedhead types, conservatives are wusses. Heard it all before. Capitalism is a self destructive force eating itself as we speak.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Capitalism has been around since the dawn of man. It isn't going anywhere.

And man has screwed one another over for greed since the end of time.

Notice society and civilization grew once we learned to get past our most basic animal instincts of just taking whatever we want from whomever is weaker/with less.
This is a big reason why people consider consevatives knuckle draggers.

women, gays, the minority, all to be crushed. In the end we limited our options and prop up the most corrupt. Yes, capitalism is a self-destructive force and once again america is killing itself drowning in it.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I suppose the reason there's such things as Libertarians and Conservatives is because they are not the same thing. Humans are sufficiently creative to have invented more than one kind of stupidity. Even Libertarians come in a million flavors.

People attach themselves to thing that end in ism because they are filled with self hate that drives them to seek an imaginary state in which they can be free of that hate. But that is impossible because once the hate is repressed out of conscious awareness one just endlessly chases his tail. Repressed hate always looks like it's origin is out there in the world where it can be managed by government. Thus man endlessly seeks an answer out there that can only be solved 'in here' in one's own consciousness.

Man is upside down to reality living in a dream.

Repressed hate also comes in many flavors, Moonie. But all of them contain the same theme -- the desire to force other people to live in your dream. Whether that dream be conservativism, libertarianism, liberalism, individualism, or collectivism.
The nice part about libertarianism, however, is that it eschews the use of force by very definition, whereas all the other "dreams," especially all form of collectivism, both require and revere the use of force. Heretics to be burned and witches to be drowned and all that...

 

[Steeplerot]

libertarians and commies are the same deal, one thinks we can all work together for utopia and the other thinks that your own personal greed can make it.
Either way they are fools.

We all need to think for ourselves while working together.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
blah blah, libertarians are so real to the out for yourself angry white male greedhead types, conservatives are wusses. Heard it all before. Capitalism is a self destructive force eating itself as we speak.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Capitalism has been around since the dawn of man. It isn't going anywhere.

And man has screwed one another over for greed since the end of time.

Notice society and civilization grew once we learned to get past our most basic animal instincts of just taking whatever we want from whomever is weaker/with less.
This is a big reason why people consider consevatives knuckle draggers.

women, gays, the minority, all to be crushed. In the end we limited our options and prop up the most corrupt. Yes, capitalism is a self-destructive force and once again america is killing itself drowning in it.

Yes, because forcing people to live your ideal is enlightened, progressive, evolved, and noble. Moron... there truly is no difference between communists and catholics. Try fixing yourself first.

Oh BTW, about women, people say prostitution is the oldest profession, but I always say that she was selling something.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
libertarians and commies are the same deal, one thinks we can all work together for utopia and the other thinks that your own personal greed can make it.
Either way they are fools.

We all need to think for ourselves while working together.

:laugh:

Dumbass, you are a communist.

Let me help your feeble brain and explain the differences. Communists, like all people of zealous faith, believe that they have the right to force the world to their ideal, by whatever means necessary (including violence). Essentially, they're saving souls against their will, waging crusades and jihads. Libertarians OTOH believe in leaving people alone and free, and only intervening when there is cause, i.e. forcing restitution after one person harms another.

And let me ask you this question: which is the more greedy?

 

[Steeplerot]

I am not surprised, prostitution is a result of poverty a lot, poverty (violence) and body-slavery is right up your alley.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
libertarians and commies are the same deal, one thinks we can all work together for utopia and the other thinks that your own personal greed can make it.
Either way they are fools.

We all need to think for ourselves while working together.

:laugh:

Dumbass, you are a communist.

Let me help your feeble brain and explain the differences. Communists, like all people of zealous faith, believe that they have the right to force to the world to their ideal. Essentially, they're saving souls against their will. Libertarians OTOH believe in leaving people alone and free, and only intervening when there is cause, i.e. after one person harms another.

And let me ask you this question: which is the more greedy?

Quit with your dumbass stuff, you are one of the poorest posters in here with your ideaology all over the place.

Like moonie would say, figure yourself out, get out, see the world, figure out which of your biases are just self-hate and you will wake up to your ignorance. You dont even have a clue what a commie is if you think I am one.

Libertarian is another word for self-serving and lazy.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I am not surprised, prostitution is a result of poverty a lot, poverty (violence) and body-slavery is right up your alley.

Woohoo... not only is this statement amazingly ignorant of history (prostitution in ancient times was revered), but it is a perfect example of McOwen-esque troll, where an argument of fact is twisted into one of personal opinion to be used as an ad hominem attack. FYI: all it does is show the world your lack of wit and intelligence. I mean, really, is that the best you could come up with?

 

[Steeplerot]

We are still waiting for your wit, or at least a rational thought of your own.

Try reading some, figuring out where you stand, are you some libertarian? a fascist right winger? a fence sitter on social issues? Or just out to throw ideas, if so then dont act like your ideas are set in stone, you are a pretty confused sort.

Here, lets try again:

libertarians and commies are the same deal, one thinks we can all work together for utopia and the other thinks that your own personal greed can make it.
Either way they are fools.

We all need to think for ourselves while working together.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
libertarians and commies are the same deal, one thinks we can all work together for utopia and the other thinks that your own personal greed can make it.
Either way they are fools.

We all need to think for ourselves while working together.

:laugh:

Dumbass, you are a communist.

Let me help your feeble brain and explain the differences. Communists, like all people of zealous faith, believe that they have the right to force to the world to their ideal. Essentially, they're saving souls against their will. Libertarians OTOH believe in leaving people alone and free, and only intervening when there is cause, i.e. after one person harms another.

And let me ask you this question: which is the more greedy?

Quit with your dumbass stuff, you are one of the poorest posters in here with your ideaology all over the place.

Like moonie would say, figure yourself out, get out, see the world, figure out which of your biases are just self-hate and you will wake up to your ignorance. You dont even have a clue what a commie is if you think I am one.

Libertarian is another word for self-serving and lazy.

LOL! 'Cause your revered El Presidente Chavez is a liberal, right? :laugh::laugh:

Why don't we talk about your biases and self-hates, and your ignorance? We could start with your ignorant and bigoted hatreds of industry, of anyone who is not a city dweller like yourself, of your hatred of anyone who worked and made their way through life but your love of anyone who inherited their money. What about your hatred of all that is America, even though that's your own country? I mean... wow... if that isn't some form of self-hatred, I don't know what is. What about your hatred of all that is religion and your outspoken desire to destroy that aspect of freedom of expression and belief?

On and on and on and on, you demonstrate ignorance, poor arguing skills, and a kind of Limbaugh-esque dittohead my-political-tribe-said-it-therefore-it-must-be-true mentality (albeit from the opposing political spectrum) that shows an amazing inability to think for yourself. Your hatred of any ideology besides your own is especially evident in your need to black-and-white all such discussions into evil capitalism and your ideology, as though that were all that exists.

In other words, get a clue.