I don't understand what the hell is being discussed here. How can anybody in their most wildest dream ever think that there is a "right to a job". This is the absolutely most BS thing I've heard in a long f***King time.
Were do jobs come from?
The constitution is suppose to lay out rules on how the government operates. Liberty is defined by the product of your labor. If you work and make money, it's your money and you decide how to use it, That's liberty. Taxes are a infrigment on liberty, plain and simple. This is what these concepts are and that's what they mean. However we as a society have generally decided that it is resonable to sacrifice some rights in order to make this a more just sociaty. A sort of nesseciary evil. That's what taxes are for. One good example government is charged with providing a common defense, this means that it needs to take our taxes away and provide a means in which we can kill those people that may want to do harm to our country.
Freedom is Freedom. It means we get the good with the bad. If I make a good choice I get to reap the rewards, If I make a mistake then I have to face the consequences. If I study in school and work hard and make a small business, that small business is mine and I decide what I want to do with it. If I want to make it a big company or allow investors to give me money for a return a few years down the road I can make it a corporation. If I want to hire poeple I can, if there is somebody I don't want to hire then I don't have to. The reason is because if it wasn't for me then there would be no jobs for my company and nobody to hire anybody. I have a right to benifit and control what I produce. This is the basis for the modern capitolistic system. It's not greed, it's self determination. If I make a product people don't like or people don't like how I run my business then they don't have to do business with me. If I lie to my investors they don't have to invest in me. Just like me they take risks.
However if I make bad choices or try to screw people over and fail as a businessmen or am untrustworthy as a employee, nobody is under any obligation to help me. It's my own fault and I pay for it, just like if I made good decisions I would benifit from it.
It's self-determination. It's self intrest. I personally give my money to charities because I want to help people. As a human I, like most americans, feel obligated to give. As a result our sociaty (not government) we give more money and food away then any other country or group in the world. It's not greed.
In a free sociaty it depends on the natural inclination of people to be creative, seek happiness, help others, etc etc. It depends on the good side of humanity.
Sure there are a few crooks. Their are always bad people and you can pass any law to prevent this from happening, you can only allow people to watch out for themselves. However even in "evil" corporations 75-90% of everybody just wants to live there lives. They work hard and try to do a good job.
Communism or Socialism is a anti-freedom. This model says that most everybody is stupid, lazy or corrupt to be depended on. They will fight and kill each other over the most basic nessecities. You need a enlightened and well educated few to tell people what to do, somebody to control the situation. Someone to keep it under control. The natural incelnation is towards decent and destruction. If someone has plenty they refuse to give it out and it must be taken from them. By force if nessecary.
There is a reason why this doesn't work. Every communist country has turned to crap. In order to survive some have adapted bastardized versions of capitolism in order to give the people enough freedom to work things out for themselves.
Think about it. Think about yourself and people around you. Everybody has a hard enough time looking out for themselves and their loved ones. Everyone has "issues" they have to struggle with and have a limited perspective on any matter. Basicly people have a hard time dealing with there own problems. How could a 10 people or a hundred people or a thousand people in a government possibly know what's best for millions and millions of others?
That's why this job stuff is idiotic. How do you know were labor should go, what people should do what job, what people have to much and should have it taken away and who should it be given to. Any model you create will be a failure.
That's what is so nice about the capitolist system, it's self leveling. It's not a model it's a idea created from observing nature and how people interact. It wasn't created so much as it evolved.
If you find cheap labor in india, it's because people there need jobs. SO you send jobs there. If a computer company can't provide enough for it's own employees and can't pay back it's investors then they get fired, and work somewere else or create new businesses and investors take their money elsewere. That's why over 75% of business in America is small business. It's more adaptable. What you see in the stock market is only a fraction of what is going on in the real world. Higher taxes makes it undesirable to be successful. IF I make 20,000 dollars and want to risk it all to start a business and I make 50,000 dollars but have it taken away from me so that I only make 25,000 dollars, what would be the point to the risk?
Communism/Socialism sucks. It's just a cover for creating a new ruling class. It's sounds cool and sexy, but it realy isn't and the promises it makes are lies.
Case in point.
China has always have a problem with food. Distrubution is a issue, most of the country is mountainous. The only realy furtile parts are in the plains caused by the yangtze river. Rains to much and it floods, people starve. Rains too little it dries up and people starve. etc etc.
So along comes the communism government. They said everybody has a right from hunger and we will provide food for everybody. So they develope new technics for food production. They make farmers grow more food in a smaller area and change it, because in order to provide food for everybody you need more, right? Those farmers were being lazy before. And then they centralize control of distrubution. No more charging prices for food. If people are hungry and need food why should they pay for it while there is plenty for other people? So it's illigal to hord food and it must be placed in central areas to be distributed to everybody. Your greedy to deny food to some people and charge other people for it. Other ideas also were enforced.
The results? In a country were a few thousand starved every year the figure ballooned into 30-40 MILLION deaths between 58 and 61. A direct result of the government laws. Some estimates go as high as 67 million people.
Now Chinese are able to feed their people, ironicly by adapting practices from us. But at what price did the people pay for the leaders experminitations? They didn't realy know what they were doing, but they thought they did. Just like our finacial wizards like Alan Greenspan. Maybe the deaths were intentional? Who knows...
linky
Government welfare is designed to keep people poor. I had a friend who had a child and lived with her mom. Her mom and brother could provide for her, but she wanted to work anyways. However if she worked to much or got a promotion the welfare state would punish her by reducing her benifits to the point were she had less money then she did when she was unemployed. If she went to school and got a better education were she could get a better paying job she would be likewise penalised.
If you did the same thing were you required people to pay employees more then they could afford and forced them to hire more then you would make people go out of business. Remember most business is small business. They depend on large coporations for work themselves. If you force me to hire 10 people when I could only hire 5, or if I already hired 10 by mistake, I couldn't get rid of them and I would simply go bankrupt. This is what is happening in some parts of Europe, big companies are afraid to hire more people because if the climate changes and they lose money they can't fire them or lay them off. Then they can't compete with american businesses. But in order to grow you need to hire more workers. So growth is slowed, people lose out on potential jobs and thus taxes are raised on people who DO work to provide for the unemployed and the economy is very unresponsive.
By having the government to force employment on people or raise taxes to hire people for "busy work" just to keep them employed then you would be destroying the economy and more and more people would be unemployed again, it would be a vicious cicle and we would end up were russia is today. NO THANK YOU. I'd rather be free and be hungry then be full and be a slave to a elite few's whims.
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