The coming GOP shaping of the Judiciary

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Zaap

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You cannot legally possess or purchase a gun in Colorado. I'm not going to get into it any further than that statement, but it's the truth.
Actually you should expand on it. Just because it's an interesting subject, not for the benefit of that idiot.

I didn't know gun laws were anywhere near restrictive enough in Colorado to make that statement accurate. If it is... really? (What does the YOU qualification signify? Is there a mental requirement flush would fail?)
 

Kazukian

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Actually you should expand on it. Just because it's an interesting subject, not for the benefit of that idiot.

I didn't know gun laws were anywhere near restrictive enough in Colorado to make that statement accurate. If it is... really?

He'd be violating federal law, And if he already has a gun and uses it, life gets real complicated.
  • "Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.”
 

Zaap

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So because he uses or possessses MJ he can't own a firearm in CO?

I'm not following.

My view is MJ ownership and use (in general)has as much to do with the right to own a firearm as alcohol use/ownership (in general) does... that is, none.
 

JSt0rm

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States rights is about only conservative things. Liberal things like mj and abortion and LGBT issues are controlled by a conservative federal gov. As the founding fathers intended.
 
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Jhhnn

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So because he uses or possessses MJ he can't own a firearm in CO?

I'm not following.

My view is MJ ownership and use (in general)has as much to do with the right to own a firearm as alcohol use/ownership (in general) does... that is, none.
In the paperwork that you have to fill out to buy a firearm there's a question about illegal drug use. If you answer it with a "yes" then it's illegal for that Federal Firearms Licensee to sell you a firearm. If you lie on that form it's a Felony.
 

Jhhnn

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In the paperwork that you have to fill out to buy a firearm there's a question about illegal drug use. If you answer it with a "yes" then it's illegal for that Federal Firearms Licensee to sell you a firearm. If you lie on that form it's a Felony.

How silly. It's impossible to prove that a recreational marijuana user was such at the time of purchase. It's not illegal for them to own guns, just to buy them retail.
 
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How silly. It's impossible to prove that a recreational marijuana user was such at the time of purchase. It's not illegal for them to own guns, just to buy them retail.
maybe with some luck and the incoming Judiciary we can get rid of the whole Federal Firearm Licensing bullshit and leave it to the States.
 

Zaap

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In the paperwork that you have to fill out to buy a firearm there's a question about illegal drug use. If you answer it with a "yes" then it's illegal for that Federal Firearms Licensee to sell you a firearm. If you lie on that form it's a Felony.
Ahh, got it. Thanks.
 
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10th Amendment to the Constitution, from the Original Bill of Rights.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

I see nothing in there about a Federal Firearms form.
 

Zorba

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Hillary won fewer counties than any popular vote winner, ever. She beat the previous record holder - Barack Obama - to win with only 22% of the counties nationwide. You guys have an agenda that is extremely popular with people who like to live packed in like lemmings, and relatively unpopular with everyone else.

The probably has more to demographics and moving populations. As more and more people transition from rural to urban, it is a fairly easy assumption to make that the more liberal people are more inclined to be the first to go.

Regardless, counting counties means absolutely nothing. First, land shouldn't get a vote (although it does in our system). Second, there is no defined unit of a county. For example, Georgia has 159 counties, while California only has 57 (Cali's are on average 7.5x the size of Georgia's). Further 26 states have more counties than California, so should those states votes count more, just because they have a terribly inefficient local government setup?
 

MrSquished

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10th Amendment to the Constitution, from the Original Bill of Rights.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

I see nothing in there about a Federal Firearms form.

I don't see anything in there about smoking weed, gays being married, porn, or net neutrality either. It seems we somehow have to figure it all out along the way.
 

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The probably has more to demographics and moving populations. As more and more people transition from rural to urban, it is a fairly easy assumption to make that the more liberal people are more inclined to be the first to go.

Regardless, counting counties means absolutely nothing. First, land shouldn't get a vote (although it does in our system). Second, there is no defined unit of a county. For example, Georgia has 159 counties, while California only has 57 (Cali's are on average 7.5x the size of Georgia's). Further 26 states have more counties than California, so should those states votes count more, just because they have a terribly inefficient local government setup?

Counting counties in national election results is pretty much the definition of stupid.
 

Zorba

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In the paperwork that you have to fill out to buy a firearm there's a question about illegal drug use. If you answer it with a "yes" then it's illegal for that Federal Firearms Licensee to sell you a firearm. If you lie on that form it's a Felony.

Thank god for gun shows, eh?
 
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Thank god for gun shows, eh?
You are ignorant of the law in this instance. According to Colorado State Law, (the State we were talking about) every transfer of firearms (handgun)at a gunshow MUST use form 4473 and the transfer MUST have the FBI background check and be performed by a FFL. It is required by law.
 

Zorba

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You are ignorant of the law in this instance. According to Colorado State Law, (the State we were talking about) every transfer of firearms (handgun)at a gunshow MUST use form 4473 and the transfer MUST have the FBI background check and be performed by a FFL. It is required by law.

So is it also against the law to buy a gun in a different state?
 

Paratus

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Sounds like the fix is for the federal government to de-schedule MJ. Then there is no catch 22 on the form.
 

Kazukian

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How silly. It's impossible to prove that a recreational marijuana user was such at the time of purchase. It's not illegal for them to own guns, just to buy them retail.

All gun transfers, new or used must have a background check in CO, how about that, another anti gun asshole that's unaware of the laws in their own state, didn't know about the mandatory background check on all gun sales in CO, didn't know about the marijuana... probably doesn't know or understand the magazine capacity limits in CO, or the AWB in Denver.

Go go Jhhnn, toke up another bowl...
 

Jhhnn

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All gun transfers, new or used must have a background check in CO, how about that, another anti gun asshole that's unaware of the laws in their own state, didn't know about the mandatory background check on all gun sales in CO, didn't know about the marijuana... probably doesn't know or understand the magazine capacity limits in CO, or the AWB in Denver.

Go go Jhhnn, toke up another bowl...

Desperate, huh? I'm aware of all those things. I merely point out the unenforceable nature of the law wrt cannabis users & firearms purchases.

I'm not anti gun at all. I'm just anti heavily armed raving paranoid idiot.