The coming GOP shaping of the Judiciary

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Kazukian

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Single-issue voters like you are destroying America. That's not hyperbole. It's a sad fact. By fixating on one issue and ignoring everything else, you enable the election of corrupt ideologues instead of good leaders who are committed to balancing America's many competing issues. This is why the parties push a few, very emotional wedge issues instead of generally good governance.

I didn't vote for the 2A, it was a nice perk though.
 

Maxima1

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As if the new restrictions on ammunition, such as requiring permits and/or waiting periods has nothing to do with it. How about restrictive and extreme taxation on firearms and ammunition? How about extreme storage requirements?

So? Republicans even use the federal level to dictate what states can and can't do e.g. marijuana.

How about a reciprocity Bill for concealed carry permits nation wide? Just in case you didn't know the 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting.

lmao This one always comes up. It also wasn't about an individual right either (there was no 14th Amendment at the time preventing states from doing what they want), and it's obvious what is meant by a well regulated militia, and one significant reason for it was slave patrols.
 

Double Trouble

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This is by far the biggest reason i was concerned about a Hillary presdency. I'm not enthused about Trump having that big of an impact either, especially without a democrat controlled congress to force moderation.....
 

desura

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Looking back, I think Obama likely burned a lot of political capital with his nomination of Sotomayor, who is probably the most leftist justice on the bench. Well, I guess this is the backlash.

I personally don't really have a problem with Sotomayor, but in the wake of this election it makes sense to try and figure out why people were so angry.
 
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So? Republicans even use the federal level to dictate what states can and can't do e.g. marijuana.



lmao This one always comes up. It also wasn't about an individual right either (there was no 14th Amendment at the time preventing states from doing what they want), and it's obvious what is meant by a well regulated militia, and one significant reason for it was slave patrols.
No, according to Federal law marijuana is illegal and at any time the Feds can arrest and prosecute people and seize assets, it doesn't matter what the State law says.
 

rudder

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Single-issue voters like you are destroying America. That's not hyperbole. It's a sad fact. By fixating on one issue and ignoring everything else, you enable the election of corrupt ideologues instead of good leaders who are committed to balancing America's many competing issues. This is why the parties push a few, very emotional wedge issues instead of generally good governance.

Was there some other Hillary running for president that we dont know about? SCOTUS and the 2A was one reason.... her being a puppet of george soros and dreaming of open borders was another. I wont even bother with all her other leftist dribble. I mean look at decades of the war on poverty and how many trillions have been spent. Yet we have record number of people of food stamps. LBJ was right about getting poor people to vote democratic for 200 years.
 

rudder

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There's going to be a revolution at some point with a Bernie-like candidate. Bernie, btw, would have beat the dog doodie out of Trump.

Bernie would have taken Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania for sure. He is a socialist but did not have ties to people like Soros... which made him a lot less imposing to voters who simpky wanted an anti-establishment candidiate. Shame about the DNC deciding Hillary was the candidate. Gotta love those super delegates.
 

Jhhnn

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As if the new restrictions on ammunition, such as requiring permits and/or waiting periods has nothing to do with it. How about restrictive and extreme taxation on firearms and ammunition? How about extreme storage requirements? How about a reciprocity Bill for concealed carry permits nation wide? Just in case you didn't know the 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting.

The second amendment is about a frontier society 225 years ago. You know, when they had black powder flintlocks, mostly muzzle loading single shot smooth bores. When we thought a militia would defend us as well as a professional army. When there were hostile natives on our border, the frontier, and to our north in British Canada. When law enforcement & the military moved no faster than the speed of horseback.
 

Maxima1

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No, according to Federal law marijuana is illegal and at any time the Feds can arrest and prosecute people and seize assets, it doesn't matter what the State law says.

lol We needed an amendment to ban alcohol.Conservatives only want state rights' when they have to compromise. If they have control, it all goes away.
 

Jhhnn

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lol We needed an amendment to ban alcohol.Conservatives only want state rights' when they have to compromise. If they have control, it all goes away.

They believe states rights are there to suppress some people's rights, not to enhance them. Witness 100 years of Jim Crow.
 
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lol We needed an amendment to ban alcohol.Conservatives only want state rights' when they have to compromise. If they have control, it all goes away.
Hey i'm a pro-marijuana person, but only idiots think that Federal law doesn't trump State and local laws.
 

Jhhnn

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Was there some other Hillary running for president that we dont know about? SCOTUS and the 2A was one reason.... her being a puppet of george soros and dreaming of open borders was another. I wont even bother with all her other leftist dribble. I mean look at decades of the war on poverty and how many trillions have been spent. Yet we have record number of people of food stamps. LBJ was right about getting poor people to vote democratic for 200 years.
Bernie would have taken Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania for sure. He is a socialist but did not have ties to people like Soros... which made him a lot less imposing to voters who simpky wanted an anti-establishment candidiate. Shame about the DNC deciding Hillary was the candidate. Gotta love those super delegates.

Magnificent mishmash of debunked talking points & perfectly off topic as well.

Won't it be just wonderful if Repubs pass this bit of bigotry disguised as religious freedom & appoints a SCOTUS that will uphold it?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-women-religious-freedom-law-on-steroids.html
 

Maxima1

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Hey i'm a pro-marijuana person, but only idiots think that Federal law doesn't trump State and local laws.

Wow, the point went completely over your head! No **** federal law trumps state law. The point is that it arguably shouldn't be able to regulate marijuana. As an example, i gave alcohol prohibition, which needed an amendment to the Constitution. Many conservatives think the federal government shouldn't even be able to spend even a quarter of what it does nor have the capacity to regulate many different things.
 
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Wow, the point went completely over your head! No **** federal law trumps state law. The point is that it arguably shouldn't be able to regulate marijuana. As an example, i gave alcohol prohibition, which needed an amendment to the Constitution. Many conservatives think the federal government shouldn't even be able to spend even a quarter of what it does nor have the capacity to regulate many different things.

Ahh so you think "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
What an interesting position.
 

agent00f

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Bernie would have taken Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania for sure. He is a socialist but did not have ties to people like Soros... which made him a lot less imposing to voters who simpky wanted an anti-establishment candidiate. Shame about the DNC deciding Hillary was the candidate. Gotta love those super delegates.

Only folks like you play up Soros and the lizard people. Sander's only real advantage with the general electorate was with the misogynists, and this election largely demonstrated that race > gender anyway.
 

Bowfinger

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Was there some other Hillary running for president that we dont know about? SCOTUS and the 2A was one reason.... her being a puppet of george soros and dreaming of open borders was another. I wont even bother with all her other leftist dribble. I mean look at decades of the war on poverty and how many trillions have been spent. Yet we have record number of people of food stamps. LBJ was right about getting poor people to vote democratic for 200 years.
I was responding specifically to the comment, "She said Heller got it wrong, that's enough for me." You'll note he didn't mention any of those other things as part of his rationale. Single-issue voters are destroying America.
 

HomerJS

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All you people genuflecting about what Obama was going to do to the 2A meanwhile having no concerns about what Trump plans to do to the 1A
 

Kazukian

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I was responding specifically to the comment, "She said Heller got it wrong, that's enough for me." You'll note he didn't mention any of those other things as part of his rationale. Single-issue voters are destroying America.

I've hated Hillary for decades, 2A is not why I voted as I did.
 

kage69

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Single-issue voters like you are destroying America. That's not hyperbole. It's a sad fact. By fixating on one issue and ignoring everything else, you enable the election of corrupt ideologues instead of good leaders who are committed to balancing America's many competing issues. This is why the parties push a few, very emotional wedge issues instead of generally good governance.

This really can't be stated enough.

Excellent post Bow.
 
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You mean actually enforce it against the monster of political correctness?
And how does one do that? All the 1st Amendment does is prevent the government from imposing restrictions on speech. What you're suggesting is as much a restriction on speech as "political correctness", except now you want the government to enforce it because it just so happens to conform to your particular view. How very authoritarian of you.
 
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And how does one do that? All the 1st Amendment does is prevent the government from imposing restrictions on speech. What you're suggesting is as much a restriction on speech as "political correctness", except now you want the government to enforce it because it just so happens to conform to your particular view. How very authoritarian of you.
How about any institution the receives Federal funds cannot have restrictions on free speech?
 

Zorba

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How about any institution the receives Federal funds cannot have restrictions on free speech?

So you want school teachers to be able to walk up to teen girls and say something a long the lines of "Damn bitch, you've got a sexy ass, how about I bend you over this desk give that ***hole a workout." Or how about a teacher that says to your kid "You know mini imported, your father is a real ignorant redneck, you should probably not listen to anything he says." For that matter, no restrictions of free speech means that you think someone that works for a defense contractor should be able to freely spread classified information to whomever.

Nah, you just want to be able to call your coworker the N-word without getting fired, you'd have a cow if he called you a redneck cracker back though.

BTW: Happy Holidays!
 
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So you want school teachers to be able to walk up to teen girls and say something a long the lines of "Damn bitch, you've got a sexy ass, how about I bend you over this desk give that ***hole a workout." Or how about a teacher that says to your kid "You know mini imported, your father is a real ignorant redneck, you should probably not listen to anything he says." For that matter, no restrictions of free speech means that you think someone that works for a defense contractor should be able to freely spread classified information to whomever.

Nah, you just want to be able to call your coworker the N-word without getting fired, you'd have a cow if he called you a redneck cracker back though.

BTW: Happy Holidays!
Merry Christmas !
Child abuse by persons in authority is a crime, it isn't speech.
It wouldn't be the first time i was called a redneck or ignorant.
Defense contractors sign away some of their Rights so they have access to classified information.
I have no desire to bad mouth co-workers.
I didn't have a cow when it happened, I just laughed.
I find it funny that you very conscientiously self-censored because you know what politically correct words are allowed and which words are not.