The Brits finally get it ...

[grebe925]

and dust off the riot act to ban these thugs. The thug Bakri and his counterpart Choudhery lived off of benefits and made a mockery of laws, welfare, charity and now their army. I still believe it is a manageable problem if more of these goons are taken off the streets and kept away from impressionable muslim kids in a multi-cultural society so that they can grow up and be something other than jihadis and suicide bombers. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

UK moves to ban controversial Islamist group

Britain's government said Tuesday it will ban an Islamist group whose proposed protest march through a town known for honoring British soldiers killed in Afghanistan drew national outrage.

The group, Islam4UK, will be banned starting Thursday, said Home Secretary Alan Johnson. The move will allow authorities to arrest people who meet in the group's name and seize its assets.
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Bakri's group argues that, as Muslims, they're not bound by British law and has expressed support for bin Laden and al-Qaida. In its previous incarnation as al-Muhajiroun, the group was linked to several terror suspects and was accused of recruiting British Muslims to fight in Afghanistan and Chechnya. Bakri has acknowledged that some of al-Muhajiroun members have engaged in militant attacks but says the group can't be held responsible for their actions.

Bakri, who was deported from Britain in 2005, added that, whatever happened, his followers could regroup under a different name.

"Tomorrow we can call ourselves whatever we think is suitable for us," he said.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Backlash?

 

[MotF Bane]

Bakri's group argues that, as Muslims, they're not bound by British law

Fuck that shit.

 

[cubeless]

and so it begins...

 

[StageLeft]

They'll bend over soon enough, don't worry.

 

[drebo]

Fuck that shit.

Well, he is technically right...they don't HAVE to be bound by UK law. However, if they're currently living in the UK, they damn well better obey the law of the land or they'll find themselves back in the desert where they can get away with not obeying UK law.

Still, the world would be a better place without organizations like this from ALL races. White supremesists are just as bad as middle-eastern terrorists or mexicans that refuse to learn English after coming to America.

 

[PokerGuy]

Naah, I'm sure the Brits will cave in quickly and provide the group funding and a place to meet in the name of being culturally sensitive.

 

[Jaskalas]

Naah, I'm sure the Brits will cave in quickly and provide the group funding and a place to meet in the name of being culturally sensitive.

There's good money on that bet.

 

[CPA]

The Brits need to make up their mind what direction they want to go in. First, you had members of government publicly commenting that Sharia law had it's place in Britain, now you have the government saying that a group that doesn't believe it should live under British law is now banned. They need to draw a line and stick to it.

 

[Jaskalas]

The Brits need to make up their mind what direction they want to go in. First, you had members of government publicly commenting that Sharia law had it's place in Britain, now you have the government saying that a group that doesn't believe it should live under British law is now banned. They need to draw a line and stick to it.

Because the Brits are not a diverse group of people with varying thoughts and interests? Not to mention the conflict of attempting to tolerate an intolerant religion. What can they do but bend over backwards when the rights of a religion are written into law?

 

[yllus]

Bakri's group argues that, as Muslims, they're not bound by British law and has expressed support for bin Laden and al-Qaida.

Does this mean that Britain's police forces also have no requirement to defend them in case an angry mob decides to toss each of his followers out of a 25th floor window? Once in a while it'd be nice to show these morons where a logical extension of their argument would lead.

 

[Jaskalas]

Does this mean that Britain's police forces also have no requirement to defend them in case an angry mob decides to toss each of his followers out of a 25th floor window? Once in a while it'd be nice to show these morons what a logical extension of their argument would lead.

We call those the Crusades.

 

[MotF Bane]

We call those the Crusades.

No comparison.

 

[yllus]

We call those the Crusades.

I have no idea how that reply makes sense.

 

[spacejamz]

I have no idea how that reply makes sense.

It doesnt...

 

[Exterous]

It doesnt...

Eh? It sure does. I mean this is clearly a religiously sanctioned march through Europe invovling the French and Romans in an effort to take control of the Holy Land

 

[Robor]

Fuck that shit.

:thumbsup:

 

[JS80]

Since they aren't bound by British law, can the police just shoot them all?

 

[tvarad]

Since they aren't bound by British law, can the police just shoot them all?

Wouldn't it be a delicious irony if the cops encouraged a couple of skinheads or football hooligans to take the law into their own hands with these guys and plead inability to help because, by their own admission, they are outside the law.

 

[Xcobra]

Still, the world would be a better place without organizations like this from ALL races. White supremesists are just as bad as middle-eastern terrorists or mexicans that refuse to learn English after coming to America.

Yeah because by not learning English they terrorize us on a daily basis.

I do have to agree though, they need to obey the law, otherwise kick them out.

 

[Jaskalas]

Does this mean that Britain's police forces also have no requirement to defend them in case an angry mob decides to toss each of his followers out of a 25th floor window? Once in a while it'd be nice to show these morons where a logical extension of their argument would lead.

We call those the Crusades.

I have no idea how that reply makes sense.

It doesnt...

Yllus cites an example of them dying as a logical extension of their argument. He wants to show them where it leads, to give them a taste of that. I’m telling you they did get a taste of that.

You still lost?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Because the Brits are not a diverse group of people with varying thoughts and interests? Not to mention the conflict of attempting to tolerate an intolerant religion. What can they do but bend over backwards when the rights of a religion are written into law?

Ignorance is rampant and as a Brit i'm extremely used to that on American forums. You read the headline and nothing else and that's good enough for you to base your opinions on.

Sharia courts settle civil matters as long as both parties agree, it cannot bypass UK law in any way shape or form. Think of it as a lawyers office, they can come to agreement or they can take it up in legal court, that is all that it is.

This group isn't banned, it's banned from protesting because of the rioting that ensues every single time. This is equal to yelling fire in a crowded theatre and has nothing to do with freedom nor rights.

Our biggest problem in the UK is and remains to be the Indians who follow the honor system, that is where you find fathers who burn their daughters with oil or throw them off balconies because they don't marry who they are supposed to, that is where you'll find men murdering their wives rather than granting them divorce, that is where you'll find men burning women with acid because they had the gall to turn them down.

99% if not more of all honor killings or abuses in the UK are Indians trying to follow an archaic rule of caste in the UK.

Of course, they just do it to their own so you don't hear much about it in the worldwide press.

 

[Jaskalas]

Not sure why you're going on about Sharia courts and such while quoting me. My reference to law is regarding hate crimes and such. That there is law in place to directly protect hateful and intolerant religious beliefs. You're not allowed to incite any backlash against them.

I believe the "Islamist group" cited in the OP is a prime example of that, and as such I do not believe they will be removed from your country. I believe those who oppose them will be forced to back down in the end.

 

[tvarad]

Ignorance is rampant and as a Brit i'm extremely used to that on American forums. You read the headline and nothing else and that's good enough for you to base your opinions on.

Sharia courts settle civil matters as long as both parties agree, it cannot bypass UK law in any way shape or form. Think of it as a lawyers office, they can come to agreement or they can take it up in legal court, that is all that it is.

This group isn't banned, it's banned from protesting because of the rioting that ensues every single time. This is equal to yelling fire in a crowded theatre and has nothing to do with freedom nor rights.

Our biggest problem in the UK is and remains to be the Indians who follow the honor system, that is where you find fathers who burn their daughters with oil or throw them off balconies because they don't marry who they are supposed to, that is where you'll find men murdering their wives rather than granting them divorce, that is where you'll find men burning women with acid because they had the gall to turn them down.

99% if not more of all honor killings or abuses in the UK are Indians trying to follow an archaic rule of caste in the UK.

Of course, they just do it to their own so you don't hear much about it in the worldwide press.

Yep, Indians are so pissed off with the British system that doesn't allow them to practice their traditions that they're preaching hatred in their temples, running off for jihad, sticking bombs in their underwear and trying to blow up planes. Sheesh! Talk about running off the rails when it comes to topic relevance.

 

[tvarad]

Ignorance is rampant and as a Brit i'm extremely used to that on American forums. You read the headline and nothing else and that's good enough for you to base your opinions on.

Sharia courts settle civil matters as long as both parties agree, it cannot bypass UK law in any way shape or form. Think of it as a lawyers office, they can come to agreement or they can take it up in legal court, that is all that it is.

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If anyone is showing intolerance it's the Islamic nutcases running around Britain claiming it's their right to insult, intimidate and terrorize. The non-Islamic British public has seen through the charade and wants it to be severely dealt with. It is a sign of progress that the feckless British Govt. that preached multi-culturism is taking the first step towards listening to the peoples' voice.

Top ten reasons why sharia is bad for all societies

If you have the stomach, look at the pics of how sharia law is enforced in Afghanistan in that article. Rule of law based on individual rights is the ultimate evolution of a just society. Law based on religious gobbledygook from a bygone era is just retrograde.