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Kadarin

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I agree that Rick Berman has to go, and someone who actually has a clue should be in charge of the franchise. Just imagine what could happen if they brought in Harlan Ellison as a conceptual consultant... :)
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: guyver01
Star Trek News

Remember in "Star Trek: First Contact," Captain Picard's crew followed a small Borg sphere through time and blew it to bits over 21st-century Earth. Well, what happened to all that debris? That's the premise behind "Regeneration." In the story, written by Mike Sussman & Phyllis Strong, an arctic research team in 2152 discovers fragments of an alien ship buried in the glacial terrain, along with the frozen corpses of two cybernetically enhanced humanoids. Except they aren't really corpses ? once they're allowed to thaw they come back to life and put their nanoprobes to work. They abduct the scientists and hijack their transport ship, modifying it for higher warp speeds. That's where the NX-01 comes in. Captain Archer's crew gives chase, and learns what an insidious threat these cybernetic beings pose.



WTF??? :| They're killing continuity

With TCW they CAN"T kill continuity. They'll just go back in the end the erase it.

amish
 

Rainsford

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Who cares as long as it's extertaining? Seriously, people getting worked up over Star Trek is just funny.
 

dexvx

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Ironic.

I've started watching Star Trek since TNG, and I feel that the original Star Trek has way more discontinuity when you mix it in with the other star treks. The reason being is because it was made so long ago and Roddenbery didnt imagine it could lead to this. I mean, if you really think about it, its a diverse timeline. The writers had to piece together approximately 300 years worth of history. In my opinion, they are just cleaning up the lone episoides or two that dont really make sense, and force them to follow the story line.

When Archer met the Romulans, people thought he had killed continuity when he did not. And I doubt this will kill continuity again.
 

ElFenix

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the ratings must be sagging. next thing you know they'll have a hot borg chick on there
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: dexvx
Ironic.

I've started watching Star Trek since TNG, and I feel that the original Star Trek has way more discontinuity when you mix it in with the other star treks. The reason being is because it was made so long ago and Roddenbery didnt imagine it could lead to this. I mean, if you really think about it, its a diverse timeline. The writers had to piece together approximately 300 years worth of history. In my opinion, they are just cleaning up the lone episoides or two that dont really make sense, and force them to follow the story line.

When Archer met the Romulans, people thought he had killed continuity when he did not. And I doubt this will kill continuity again.
You are confused. Of course there is going to be discontinuity compared to the OS. It is the newer shows that are ignoring the original timeline. Roddenberry's vision encompassed more than just what the OS did. He just couldn't express it the way he wanted to. Considering he died at the beginning of STTNG, it is no wonder there is discontinuity. Why follow the timeline when you can just make stuff up for ratings?

 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve
Originally posted by: syyid
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve
Star Trek is all about discontinuity. Hell, they even changed the storyline so that the inventor of Warp Drive came from Earth for the movie "First Contact." If you watch the episode "Metamorphosis" from the original series, it clearly states he was from Alpha Centauri.

Didn't know that, haven't see The Original Series much. How'd he get to alpha centauri to begin with? Or he wasn't human @ all?

About Enterprise / Borg :p
All hail :disgust:Rick Berman:disgust:
In FC One ship gave the entire fleet a run for their money...Voyager in contrast was able to destroy the entire borg collective :\.
And now this like AUGH.
How about finishing the series with earth is assimilated, its over ;) RIP

The story goes that Earth sent a space craft to Alpha Centauri with a drive that allowed them to achieve near-light speeds, and when they arrived they discovered a humanoid race had already evolved there, and had just perfected the Warp Drive. Zephram Cochrane gave the secret of the technology to the humans as a gift, so their return trip was much faster, and the rest was history, until they changed it for Star Trek: First Contact, because the writers could not stand the thought that a non-Earth person invented the Warp Drive.


You mean the thought that a non-earth person invented the warp drive used by humans.
 
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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: dexvx
Ironic.

I've started watching Star Trek since TNG, and I feel that the original Star Trek has way more discontinuity when you mix it in with the other star treks. The reason being is because it was made so long ago and Roddenbery didnt imagine it could lead to this. I mean, if you really think about it, its a diverse timeline. The writers had to piece together approximately 300 years worth of history. In my opinion, they are just cleaning up the lone episoides or two that dont really make sense, and force them to follow the story line.

When Archer met the Romulans, people thought he had killed continuity when he did not. And I doubt this will kill continuity again.
You are confused. Of course there is going to be discontinuity compared to the OS. It is the newer shows that are ignoring the original timeline. Roddenberry's vision encompassed more than just what the OS did. He just couldn't express it the way he wanted to. Considering he died at the beginning of STTNG, it is no wonder there is discontinuity. Why follow the timeline when you can just make stuff up for ratings?

Exactly. Roddenberry is probably spinning in his grave now due to the goofy crap they have done since his death. Saying that the ORIGINAL series is discontinuous to the newer series is ridiculous, when it is actually the other way around.
 

Triumph

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Continuity was already killed by the final episode of Voyager, which contradicted everything that happened in First Contact.

God bless TNG reruns. Still the best.
 

SagaLore

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That is so cool, yet so wrong. If the borg are activated, they immediately send out a signal to re-establish their link to the hive. Which means the signal is going to travel to their home quadrant and it's going to accelerate their invasion. Hmm... what I would really like to see, is perhaps a comeback of the "Cooperative", where the ex-borg cube lost it's link to the Collective and regained their individualism, but still needed a shared mind hive to stay peaceful.

I think it was rather pathetic how Voyager consistently developed new concepts and potential storylines in each episode and then threw it off a cliff at the end. Like the episode with "One", he was the coolest good guy borg ever - but NOOOOO, he's dead. And then the one with "Tuvix", where Tuvak and Nelix merged... he was cool, they should have found a way to preserve him and still bring back Tuvak and Nelix.

They should have One regenerate - come back to life - and then recruit the Cooperative and start a war with the Collective. Then when Enterprise is done with it's dozen seasons, they can start a "Star Trek: Age of Borg" series. :)
 

XZeroII

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ACTUALLY...They said (in a different article) that they found a really nice way to keep the continuity and not mess everything up. See, the problem is that everyone is always screaming that they want new aliens and stuff, then when they add a new alien, everyone complains that startrek is losing it's roots and that they should stick with original aliens and explore the aliens that already exist. It's a no win situation because no matter what they do everyone is screaming. I think it's a really cool way to bring the borg into Enterprise, if only for one show.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
I think that's awesome.. I don't know what the hell you guys are thinking with continuity.. In one episode of TNG, Tasha Yar led a worthless death - so she goes back like 30 years ago and dies with honor. Wonderful. What about the infinite Enterprises episode?

I think they'll cleverly work their way around... I mean, TNG's history has already been established.. But now that time is altered, we don't exactly know what to expect from Enterprise. I like that. I don't want to know what the hell they're doing all the time.

BTW, that mind meld episode was neat and crap at the same time. The whole time they were trying to relate mindmelding Vulcans to gay people. Wonderful. I wish Star Trek won't get jammed up with propaganda.

Actually, Tasha was captured by the Romulans and became the wife of a Romulan and had a child. Tasha tried to smuggle the child out, but the child (being half Romulan) didn't want to go and alerted the Guards. Tasha was executed and the child grew up to be a military leader who met with Picard in a later episode. It was very nicely done and I just love how they did it.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: StinkyMeat
They can sidestep Q and bring back Trelane. I bet fans wouldn't complain.

In Voyager, (original) Q and Mrs. Q has the first Q baby... perhaps this started a reproductive revolution, and lead to Trelane? In the original series, his "parents" come and get him and he is scolded/punished... since Q are multidimensional and don't go by a normal timeline, maybe Trelane represents the future race of the Continuum.

When Q became a father, that opened up a whole new can of worms, because Q can slide into any time, so they would have known Q would start reproducing, or perhaps Q are omnipotent but not omniscient nor omnipresent and still follow the normal timeline as a baseline of their existance...
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: flamingelephant
Cripes, if Q showed up that would be just the dumbest thing ever... mind you, he did show up on Voyager

Actually yes he did. He tried to get Janeway to marry him.
 

StinkyMeat

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: StinkyMeat
They can sidestep Q and bring back Trelane. I bet fans wouldn't complain.

In Voyager, (original) Q and Mrs. Q has the first Q baby... perhaps this started a reproductive revolution, and lead to Trelane? In the original series, his "parents" come and get him and he is scolded/punished... since Q are multidimensional and don't go by a normal timeline, maybe Trelane represents the future race of the Continuum.

I like this idea:) It's nice to think like a geek again.
 

Chadder007

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Who was Trelane? Was that the baby's name of Q and Mrs. Q?

Edit: Mrs. Q was a hottie. :D What happened to the "Q" girl that was in TNG? She grew up as a human, but her parents were like exiled "Q".
 

StinkyMeat

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Trelane was in an episode (at least I only remember one) of the OS, but was also featured in a book entitled "Q-Squared." He's a Q, pretty much, although I don't know if that's what Roddenberry had in mind when he first appeared.

This baby stuff is just fun conjecture :)
 

LAUST

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Time travel in movies always ends up stupid, might as well raise the "Cheese" flag right when time travel hits the paper.
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Who was Trelane? Was that the baby's name of Q and Mrs. Q?

Edit: Mrs. Q was a hottie. :D What happened to the "Q" girl that was in TNG? She grew up as a human, but her parents were like exiled "Q".
Trelane was in the OS episode: The Squire of Gothos.

Original literature described his race as non-corporeal beings similar to the medusa and the Organians, with great mental power that was never meant to be used to harm or torture lesser lifeforms.